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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.06
As chosen by th Online Film Critics Society
The bestest Villian to ever vill is

DARTH VADER!

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THE OFCS TOP 100 VILLAINS OF ALL TIME
1 Star Wars etc. - Darth Vader - David Prowse/James Earl Jones
2 Silence of the Lambs, The etc. - Hannibal Lecter - Anthony Hopkins
3 Psycho etc. - Norman Bates - Anthony Perkins
4 Die Hard - Hans Gruber - Alan Rickman
5 Blue Velvet - Frank Booth - Dennis Hopper
6 Night of the Hunter - Rev. Harry Powell - Robert Mitchum
7 2001: A Space Odyssey - HAL 9000 - Douglas Rain (voice)
8 Wizard of Oz, The - The Wicked Witch of the West - Margaret Hamilton
9 Nosferatu - Graf Orlock - Max Schreck
10 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - Khan Noonien Singh - Ricardo Montalban
11 Clockwork Orange, A - Alex - Malcolm McDowell
12 Usual Suspects, The - Keyzer Soze - (mystery/actor's name withheld)
13 Third Man, The - Harry Lime - Orson Welles
14 Schindler's List - Amon Goeth - Ralph Fiennes
15 Halloween - Michael Myers (aka The Shape) - Nick Castle
16 Batman (1989) - The Joker - Jack Nicholson
17 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - Nurse Ratched - Louise Fletcher
18 Manchurian Candidate, The - Mrs. Iselin - Angela Lansbury
19 Jaws - The shark - himself
20 Se7en - John Doe - Kevin Spacey
21 Terminator, The etc. - T-800 - Arnold Schwarzenegger
22 Misery - Annie Wilkes - Kathy Bates
23 Shining, The - John 'Jack' Daniel Torrance - Jack Nicholson
24 Once Upon a Time in the West - Frank - Henry Fonda
25 Amadeus - Salieri - F. Murray Abraham
26 M - Hans Beckert - Peter Lorre
27 In the Company of Men - Chad - Aaron Eckhart
28 Alien etc. - The alien - himself
29 Shadow of a Doubt - Uncle Charlie - Joseph Cotten
30 Nightmare On Elm Street, A etc. - Freddy Kreuger - Robert Englund
31 Apocalypse Now - Col. Walter E. Kurtz - Marlon Brando
32 Chinatown - Noah Cross - John Huston
33 Fatal Attraction - Alex Forrest - Glenn Close
34 Full Metal Jacket - Gunnery Sergeant Hartman - R. Lee Ermey
35 Blade Runner - Roy Batty - Rutger Hauer
36 Matrix, The - Mr. Smith - Hugo Weaving
37 Dracula (1931) - Dracula etc. - Bela Lugosi
38 Marathon Man - Christian Szell - Laurence Olivier
39 Terminator 2: Judgment Day, The - T-1000 - Robert Patrick
40 It's a Wonderful Life - Mr. Potter - Lionel Barrymore
41 Exorcist, The - Pazuzu - Mercedes McCambridge (voice)
42 Touch of Evil - Captain Hank Quinlan - Orson Welles
43 Leon (The Professional) - Norman Stansfield - Gary Oldman
44 Cape Fear (1991) - Max Cady - Robert De Niro
45 Goldfinger - Auric Goldfinger - Gert Frobe
46 Richard III - King Richard III - Ian McKellan
47 Strangers On a Train - Bruno Antony - Robert Walker
48 Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover, The - Albert Spica - Michael Gambon
49 Double Indemnity - Phyllis Dietrichson - Barbara Stanwyck
50 American Psycho - Patrick Bateman - Christian Bale
51 Hitcher, The - John Ryder - Rutger Hauer
52 Goodfellas - Tommy DeVito - Joe Pesci
53 All About Eve - Eve Harrington - Anne Baxter
54 Bad Seed, The - Rhoda - Patty McCormack
55 Kiss of Death - Tommy Udo - Richard Widmark
56 White Heat - Arthur "Cody" Jarrett - James Cagney
57 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - The queen - Lucille La Verne (voice)
58 Rebecca - Mrs. Danvers - Judith Anderson
59 Cape Fear (1962) - Max Cady - Robert Mitchum
60 Dr. Strangelove - Jack D. Ripper - Sterling Hayden
61 Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery etc. - Dr. Evil - Mike Myers
62 Taxi Driver - Travis Bickle - Robert DeNiro
63 Basic Instinct - Catherine Trammell - Sharon Stone
64 Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The - Leatherface - Gunnar Hansen
65 Wall Street - Gordon Gekko - Michael Douglas
66 Rosemary's Baby - Minnie Castevet - Ruth Gordon
67 Deliverance - Mountain men - Bill McKinney and Herbert "Cowboy" Coward
68 Training Day - Alonzo Harris - Denzel Washington
69 What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? - Jane Hudson - Bette Davis
70 101 Dalmatians - Cruella De Vil - Betty Lou Gerson (voice)
71 Metropolis - The evil Maria - Brigitte Helm
72 Duel - The truck driver - Carey Loftin
73 In the Line of Fire - Booth - John Malkovich
74 Phantom of the Opera, The (1925) - Erik - Lon Chaney
75 Last Seduction, The - Wendy Kroy - Linda Fiorentino
76 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer - Henry - Michael Rooker
77 Sexy Beast - Don Logan - Ben Kingsley
78 Wait Until Dark - Roat - Alan Arkin
79 Reservoir Dogs - Mr. Blonde - Michael Madsen
80 Aguirre, the Wrath of God - Aguirre - Klaus Kinski
81 Fight Club - Tyler Durden - Brad Pitt
82 Batman Returns - Catwoman - Michelle Pfieffer
83 Rob Roy - Archibald Cunningham - Tim Roth
84 Graduate, The - Mrs. Robinson - Anne Bancroft
85 Casablanca - Major Heinrich Strasser - Conrad Veidt
86 Back to the Future etc. - Biff Tannen - Thomas F. Wilson
87 Ferris Bueller's Day Off - Ed Rooney - Jeffrey Jones
88 Roger & Me - Roger Smith - himself
89 Unforgiven - Little Bill Daggett - Gene Hackman
90 Frankenstein etc. - The monster - Boris Karloff
91 Flash Gordon (1980) - Ming the Merciless - Max Von Sydow
92 Stepfather, The - Henry Morrison/Jerry Blake/Bill Hodgkins - Terry O'Quinn
93 Primal Fear - Mystery Villain - actor's name withheld
94 Shane - Jack Wilson - Jack Palance
95 Peeping Tom - Mark Lewis - Carl Boehm
96 Mutiny On the Bounty (1935) - Captain William Bligh - Charles Laughton
97 Legend - The Lord of Darkness - Tim Curry
98 Last House On the Left, The - Krug - David Hess
99 Lolita - Clare Quilty - Peter Sellers
100 Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, The - Dr. Caligari - Werner Krauss

Thoughts? Opinions? Glaring omissions? Have at it!
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#2 Posted on
How is Gene Hackman's role of Lex Luther left off the list? Definately a top 20 and he doesn't even break top 100.



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#3 Posted on
Sorry, but Quilty has no business being on the list - he wasn't even the most despicable character in the novel or the movie.

And Noah Cross, Roy Batty, & Travis Bickle go WAY higher than they did. Fuck Vader.

(edited by Jubuki on 7.10.02 2044)


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#4 Posted on
Some of my personal favorites.
David Bowie, the Labyrinth - nothing says evil like kidnapping a baby, making the baby's sister go through a maze to find her, then poisoning her, and dancing with a bunch of trolls while singing "Dance Magic Dance"

Nemesis Enforcer - I still can't believe he jobbed to Sgt. Slaughter at the end.

The Stay Puft Marshmallow Men

John Malkovich in Con Air



A few that come to mind that should be on the list.
Guy Pearce, The Count of Monte Cristo - he put his best friend in jail, stole his wife and kid, treated them like crap then almost got the son to kill his father.

Joaquin Phoenix, Gladiator - he wanted to commit incest, what more do you want?

And in my opinion the biggest omission....

The Predator.

I think he's way better than the Alien or any of the Terminators and should probably be in the top 10.



Ones who made the list that I don't think should. (or in the wrong place)
Hugo Weaving, the Matrix - I'm not one of the many people who loved Matrix, I thought it was a unique story with great effects, but in my opinion not one single actor put on that good of a performance.

T-1000 and T-800 - Come on, T-1000 should be higher.

Michelle Pffeifer, Batman Returns - ehhh, Jack really should be the only Batman villian on there.

The Queen in Snow White - should be higher

Gunnar Hansen, Texas Chainsaw Massacre - should be higher.



Not too bad of a list.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
i just saw Red Dragon, Ralph Finnes and Sir Anthony just ROCK BABY.

In a revision of that list, Ralph Finnes has to go up there in the top 20...



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.06
I must concur with Quezzy, the omission of the Predator is criminal. If the Alien and the Terminator can be on the list, Predator should have easily made it.

Tyler Durden should also be higher, IMO.
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#7 Posted on
The problem with Vader #1 is he turned face. Now, they left off the list a man who did not turn face in a movie, and who brought forth cinematic perfection. Yes, of course I'm talking about Captain Lou, Captain Lou, Albano in Bodyslam.



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I would have chosen Bill Lumbergh, most definitely. He is the devil. How about also: Wulfgar - NightHawks (Rutger Hauer) and Mr. Blonde - Resevoir Dogs (Michael Madsen). I just can't listen to "Stuck in the Middle" by Stealers Wheel and not think of him cutting off the cop's ear.




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#9 Posted on
No Longshanks from Braveheart? How can you leave him out?



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
No love whatsoever for Christopher Walken? Whassupwidat?



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.65
"88 Roger & Me - Roger Smith - himself"

That is the single greatest thing I have ever read.



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#12 Posted on
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!

Sorry, I had to...



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#13 Posted on
Longshanks definitely. What about Jet Li in Lethal Weapon 4? He was so intense even though he never spoke a word of English. And how about Christopher Lee as either Dracula or Saruman from The Lord of the Rings?

Darth Vader is an obvious choice, but everyone always mentions him. They should have tried thinking outside the box and picked The Emperor. Now that was one cocky, sleazy sonnovabitch. Either him or Peter Cushing as Grand Moff Tarkin.

(edited by MollyFan2K2 on 7.10.02 1753)
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The placement of Rutger Hauer's character from the Hitcher at 51 is criminal. The scene of him popping his face up with the kids playing in the station wagon is one of those perfect EVIL movie moments. And where in the hell is The Kurrgan from Highlander? You going to tell me he was less of a great movie villain than the guy in the Stepfather films? Lastly, I'm not sure exactly what qualifies R. Lee Ermey from Full Metal Jacket as a villain. He was doing his admittedly awful job of preparing men to kill other men in cold blood, but I'm not sure that qualifies as villainy.



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#15 Posted on

    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    The problem with Vader #1 is he turned face. Now, they left off the list a man who did not turn face in a movie, and who brought forth cinematic perfection. Yes, of course I'm talking about Captain Lou, Captain Lou, Albano in Bodyslam.


Problem 2 was that he was revealed to be Humpty Dumpty shortly after his failed face turn.

I dunno. If you're talking about wrestling villians how can you NOT appreciate the "greatness" that is "ZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEUUUUUUSSSSSS."

On the other hand if you're talking about the kinda villiany that haunts your dreams for many nights to come, you just HAVE to recognise the sheer evil of Torgo, from "Manos: The Hands of Fate."




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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03

I would have expected to see Kenneth Brannagh on the list for his Iago in Othello (unless there was a restriction that the movie had to have made money).

I also think John Malkovich and Glenn Close deserve consideration for their roles in Dangerous Liasons. Maybe they're not scary villians, but you'll have a hard time finding people who treat eachother more evilly than those two.

And I just noticed in that list that Khan's full name is Khan Noonian Singh. I seem to recall that Data's creator was a Dr. Noonian Singh. Have I just finally grasped a large piece of Star Trek continuity that I was missing before?




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Grand Moff Tarkin in the movies is evil. Grand Moff Tarkin in the prequel novels is much more evil. f you go by the novels, Palpatine would be move evil than Vader. BUT this is about movies. We'll see come Episode 3.

For now, I agree with Vader as number one.

And I agree with the above post by ekedolphin. Where's Walkin's love?



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#18 Posted on
Agreed, agreed, agreed and AGREED, SPF. Rutger Hauer in the Hitcher is probably one of the single most disturbing villian roles in movie history, even above Hopkins in Silence of the Lams (if he is even the "villian"). It is definately a top 10, if not a top 5.

I also have to agree with ekedolphin. Walken from View to a Kill has to be one of the sickest (as in bad) villians ever. Gunning down your own people who helped you build your doomsday device? Pure EVIL.

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#19 Posted on
No Killer BOB from Twin Peaks?!?!



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#20 Posted on
To get all Old School on you all, where is George C. Scott in "The Hustler?"



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