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ges7184
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Since: 7.1.02
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Man, watching that game last night was annoying as a Bears fan. Why is it that the Bears manage to throw for less than first down yardage on third down EVERY TIME, regardless of yardage. I mean, even on third and FOUR, they threw a TWO yard pass. And I don't mean just dumping it off to a HB because no one was open, to a WR. A WR who wasn't even open!!! No, they didn't complete the pass. Miller was trying to force in TWO yard pass on third and FOUR. It seemed like that the whole night, if they needed 8 yards, they throw for 4, if it was 10, they throw for 6.

Why was Miller still starting? The man has a hurt arm that gets weaker as the game goes on, and it's not like the man is known for his cannon in the first place. I would have the third string guy playing. It's not like the Bears are playing for anything, may as well see what you have on the roster in real game situations. And if Miller gives the team the best chance for winning, then they have no shot anyway.

Not that the third-string guy will be any better (he didn't exactly impress in his limited time last night). Is there a NFL rule that states, "The Bears shall not have a passing game."? Outside of that glorious Super Bowl year with McMahon, I can't ever remember the Bears having a passing game. I'm just tired of seeing the Bears dink and dunk passing game.

Had to get that off my chest:) (And I'm well aware that's not near the only problem the Bears team has right now, it's just the one that annoyed me the most!)
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Hey, the Texans one with 47 yards total offence.

Surely even Millar can have a stab at matching that. You just need to come up against the steelers every week.:)



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Since: 11.12.01
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Chris Chandler should've been fired immediately after the game.

If he has no interest in trying to run the offense he shouldn't be collecting a paycheck. Get the hell out of there and at least have some fun with Burris.



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#4 Posted on

    Originally posted by dMr
    Hey, the Texans one with 47 yards total offence.

    Surely even Millar can have a stab at matching that. You just need to come up against the steelers every week.:)



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Watching that game made me even more pissed off the Bears didn't keep Mastrole (sp?) over Burris. Of course at this point I'm wondering if the Bears have P.T. Willis or Jack Concanon's number on speed dial.



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    Originally posted by spf2119
    Watching that game made me even more pissed off the Bears didn't keep Mastrole (sp?) over Burris. Of course at this point I'm wondering if the Bears have P.T. Willis or Jack Concanon's number on speed dial.


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#7 Posted on

    Originally posted by spf2119
    Watching that game made me even more pissed off the Bears didn't keep Mastrole (sp?) over Burris. Of course at this point I'm wondering if the Bears have P.T. Willis or Jack Concanon's number on speed dial.


Your quote confuses me. The Bears looked at their best when Burris was in there. What would piss me off as a Bears fan was that they put Chandler in there. 2 INTs and a fumble in about 10 minutes of play. Let Burris have a shot earlier and who knows what might of happened.

Since I am a Dolphins fan, I loved every minute of Chandler...



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Well, you don't have much of a choice nowadays... Miller's done for the year with... well, pick your favorite body part.

As for their offense, I blame not only the government, and not only Shoop, but also last season. Yeah, we know they weren't gonna be that good, but they had a running game, and now they don't. Who wants to take a crack at that?



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    Originally posted by ges7184
    Is there a NFL rule that states, "The Bears shall not have a passing game."? Outside of that glorious Super Bowl year with McMahon, I can't ever remember the Bears having a passing game.


Didn't the Bears have a big season passing back when Erik Kramer was the quarterback?

I agree, the Bears should let their third-string quarterback play out the season, to see if he's worth keeping. Miller's out for the rest of the season, and Chris "The Concussion" Chandler is likely to be of little use. Besides, we've already got the division up here in Wisconsin .

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No offense, but no one on the thread even mentioned the Dolphin defense contributing to the Bears poor output. Sure the Bears aren't a great offensive force this year, but part of that game was the play of the Dolphins, and they showed why they are one of the better defense when they play at home. Then they leave and play up in cold weather and get tired by the end of the third quarter. Oh well.
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    Originally posted by haz

      Originally posted by spf2119
      Watching that game made me even more pissed off the Bears didn't keep Mastrole (sp?) over Burris. Of course at this point I'm wondering if the Bears have P.T. Willis or Jack Concanon's number on speed dial.


    Your quote confuses me. The Bears looked at their best when Burris was in there. What would piss me off as a Bears fan was that they put Chandler in there. 2 INTs and a fumble in about 10 minutes of play. Let Burris have a shot earlier and who knows what might of happened.

    Since I am a Dolphins fan, I loved every minute of Chandler...


Haz, I've seen Burris play when the defense isn't dropping 9 men into coverage. It's not a pretty thing. If the Fins had rushed 4 men at the end, Burris might have spontaneously combusted.

And Eddie, I am on Bears boycott now until they bring back either Bobby Douglass or Moses Moreno.

(edited by spf2119 on 13.12.02 1208)


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posted by Stephanie

    Didn't the Bears have a big season passing back when Erik Kramer was the quarterback?


Actually, they had a pretty good year under Jim Miller that I had forgotten about. Marcus Robinson had a huge year receiving I believe. It was Jauron's first year as coach, and they introduced into the league the college style WR screen and was very sucessful. (Strangely, they don't run that, or any of the wide-open stuff they ran that year. Signed the A-train and they quit.)

I don't recall any particular good year passing under Erik Kramer. But I do believe he was QB when the Bears went to the playoffs under Dave Wandstedt (sp?).
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    Originally posted by ges7184
    I don't recall any particular good year passing under Erik Kramer. But I do believe he was QB when the Bears went to the playoffs under Dave Wandstedt (sp?).


You had to make me go look it up.

In 1995, Erik Kramer was #7 in the NFL, with 3,838 passing yards (adjusted yards per pass was #5 at 7.05, a category Jim Harbaugh led with 8.03). That year, he was behind John Elway, but two places ahead of Dan Marino. His apparent favorite target was Jeff Graham, who had 1,301 receiving yards. The Bears were #8 in the league in scoring, helped by Rashaan Salaam's 1,074 yards rushing and 10 rushing touchdowns. Despite this, the Bears finished third in the NFC Central (behind Green Bay and Detroit), with a record of 9-7, and did not go to the post-season (though they did in 1994).

Oh...and in 1995, Brett Favre led the league in passing yards and passing touchdowns.

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ges, the year you are thinking of is the year that they had Gary Crowton as Offensive Coordinator, and he loved to open things up and just go insane offensively. IIRC that was the year that Jim Miller had a 423 yd passing game against the Vikings. Once he left, and Shoopie took his place, the 2 yds and a cloud of crap offense that is the current Bears team took its place.





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Well, they outscored the Jets this week. So they've got that going for them.



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#16 Posted on


    Originally posted by Stephanie

      Originally posted by ges7184
      I don't recall any particular good year passing under Erik Kramer. But I do believe he was QB when the Bears went to the playoffs under Dave Wandstedt (sp?).


    You had to make me go look it up.

    In 1995, Erik Kramer was #7 in the NFL, with 3,838 passing yards (adjusted yards per pass was #5 at 7.05, a category Jim Harbaugh led with 8.03). That year, he was behind John Elway, but two places ahead of Dan Marino. His apparent favorite target was Jeff Graham, who had 1,301 receiving yards. The Bears were #8 in the league in scoring, helped by Rashaan Salaam's 1,074 yards rushing and 10 rushing touchdowns. Despite this, the Bears finished third in the NFC Central (behind Green Bay and Detroit), with a record of 9-7, and did not go to the post-season (though they did in 1994).

    Oh...and in 1995, Brett Favre led the league in passing yards and passing touchdowns.

    Steph



The offensive co-ordinator then was Ron Turner, currently the Illini head coach......



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