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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.24
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
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        Originally posted by dMp
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          I enjoyed it more than any of the Raimi films. No lectures from Aunt May about the world needing heroes, no cringe worthy "we're New Yorkers" lines, and no dancing.



        Really? I rolled my eyes at the part where the guy he saved earlier got to call his buddies and do their thing. That was very "we're New Yorkers" to me.





      It was not as bad as random strangers throwing things at the Green Goblin saying "we're New Yorkers, you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us" or the train scene in Spider-Man 2. Those two scenes made me cringe. For me, the crane scene made sense, because he HAD helped his son and the construction worker was trying to return the favor. It didn't seem as forced as the Raimi movies.

      I agree with Schippe. The Raimi movies have not aged well at ALL. I tried watching Spider-Man 2 again this weekend. Let me say that I loved that movie when it came out and saw it 3 times in the theatre. This weekend I was disappointed that it did not have the same glow.




    Haven't seen The Amazing Spider-Man yet, but if I can say a word here:

    Clearly, this is a minority opinion, but I actually liked the "you mess with one of us" and the train scenes. I like it when nameless civilians actually participate in what's going on, other than simply dodging laser bolts, ducking for cover, running like hell and screaming a lot.

    Besides, the "you mess with us" scene sure beats having an ending based around the World Trade Center, which was the original plan prior to 9/11 and obviously had to be removed. That's another thing: Even if the scene is a bit cheesy in retrospect, it makes sense in context.


I also enjoy those scenes too. I hate when action films have all these huge action scenes in a city and everyone is running for their lives, yet one or two guys are the ones who can fight it. In all actuality what we learned from 9/11 is there are a few people running towards the action to help. Also, it makes sense that you have a guy trying to kill another guy who is trying to save some Boy Scouts, people are going to interfere. The train scene isn't as bad considering everyone saw him trying to save them on the train, so they owe him plus its ultimately useless since Ock knocks them all out in one punch.

If there was one major compliant I had about Avengers was everyone including the cops seem fucking useless in that fight at the end. I would have been fine if Cap got a scene with leading the cops after some of the aliens, but he orders them and the dude from Dollhouse to run away and we never see them again. Shit like that pisses me off. Give them a scene fighting side by side with Cap sorta like what it seems to be with Batman at the end of DKR. Have a bit of payoff for Cap being the inspiration and leader of men for average Marvel citizen.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.49
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    I don't think Andrew Garfield took the mask off any more than Tobey Maguire did in any of his movies. Look, it's just how it is. That full mask will never stay on the actor in a Spider-Man movie. The actor doesn't want it always on, the director doesn't want it, the studio doesn't want it. The Spidey mask doesn't allow you to see the actor emote and thus they'll always find a way to take it off so you can see your handsome Spider-Man actor's face. Doesn't matter how it is in the comic book. This is just how it is in the movies.


If Hugo Weaving could do V for Vendetta, these pricks can put their ego aside for Spider-Man. You wanna show your face? Do Cider House Rules 2 or some shit.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.59
The first Spiderman had some terrible scenes in it where Spidey and Goblin were talking to each other while wearing their masks. They were both bobbing their heads excessively like it was an episode of Power Rangers. Unnecessary unmasking is better, IMO.



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#24 Posted on
If V took off his mask in the V for Vendetta movie that would have ruined a 30 year mystery of who he was.

(edited by cringe on 5.7.12 2329)
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo
    If Hugo Weaving could do V for Vendetta, these pricks can put their ego aside for Spider-Man. You wanna show your face? Do Cider House Rules 2 or some shit.


Except V's face and entire body was horribly burned so even if he took off the mask, the character's face would still be unrecognizable. It's a little different for Spider-Man.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.70
I was very surprised at how much I liked this. I was one of the ones screaming about the reboot being too soon. My oldest really wanted to see it, so I gave in. Pleasantly surprised. If Avengers didn't come out this year, it just might have been the best superhero movie this year. Batman better be awesome.

Stan Lee's cameo was great. Easily my favorite of his cameos.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.49
Ok, I actually saw this cause friends wanted to and it was pretty good. I think I would have had no problem with it if this had been the first Spider-Man movie ever.

But there has already been a triology and the first hour is just too redundant. But once we get full costumed Spidey, it is great.

The Pros:

Gwen Stacy - Emma Stone is adorable. Easily the best love interest they've done.

The Lizard - Coulda used more lab coat, but that's nitpicking. I liked the look. The fights were right off the comic page.

Minimal unmasking!!!! - Yes he takes his mask off, but I didn't think it was bad. Every time it is in context. The first scene of full blown Spidey probably has more uninterupted mask time that Raimi's movies put together. So I was wrong. It happens.

Spider-Man being Spidery - The sewer web scene was fantastic. Also webbing up the Lizard.

Flash Thompson - I'm not sure that the bully in Raimi's movie was ever named, that's how unimportant he was. Here we get Flash from the comics. A jerk, but not a total D-bag.


The Cons:

Origin Again - Just was not feeling it. I don't think Peter's scene of practicing his powers was very good either. Slow music made it seem like a Sunday picnic rather than something special.

Uncle Ben and Aunt May - Sorry, but Raimi blew them away here. Even with A list actors, I just didn't care.


Unsure:

Peter's Parents - I've never been a fan of Peter's parents being involved in any kind of international intrigue. But it wasn't handled badly. It did tie a lot of the origin stuff together nicely.

Norman Osborn - If that's where they are going, we are gonna have another movie that feels like rehash. Not that I wouldn't mind seeing the Goblin done right...
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#28 Posted on
Just went to watch it again today and the parents thing seems disjointed. One moment everyone act like the parents are still alive but just left Peter, the next they show an article of the parents dying in a plane crash when Peter was googling Dr. Conners. Makes the scene where Peter ask Uncle Ben "Where is he now? Why can't he say that to me?" Uhhh, because your Dad is dead? Some weird editing.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by oudom
    Just went to watch it again today and the parents thing seems disjointed. One moment everyone act like the parents are still alive but just left Peter, the next they show an article of the parents dying in a plane crash when Peter was googling Dr. Conners. Makes the scene where Peter ask Uncle Ben "Where is he now? Why can't he say that to me?" Uhhh, because your Dad is dead? Some weird editing.


Read this. (badassdigest.com) A pretty good rundown of what was cut and what story threads were left dangling.

(edited by John Orquiola on 9.7.12 0305)

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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.10
I decided to leave after the Lizard picked up the camera and discovered the "Property of: Peter Parker" label.

This was the movie everyone was expecting/dreading when Raimi was shooting the first Spider-Man. Thankfully Mr. Raimi exceeded everyone's expectations to the point that this seems like a throwback to '90s comic adaptations that decided to change random things because film executives thought they knew better.



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#31 Posted on
    Originally posted by John Orquiola

    Read this. (badassdigest.com) A pretty good rundown of what was cut and what story threads were left dangling.

    (edited by John Orquiola on 9.7.12 0305)


Good article. Guess we'll never see the original cut of the movie.
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#32 Posted on
    Originally posted by Mike Zeidler
    I decided to leave after the Lizard picked up the camera and discovered the "Property of: Peter Parker" label.

    This was the movie everyone was expecting/dreading when Raimi was shooting the first Spider-Man. Thankfully Mr. Raimi exceeded everyone's expectations to the point that this seems like a throwback to '90s comic adaptations that decided to change random things because film executives thought they knew better.


Well... there probably could've been a better way for the Lizard to find out that Peter was Spider-man but it led to the fight at Midtown Science High School which was pretty awesome.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.10
Probably for the best. It sounds like they mashed up the storyline of Ang Lee's Hulk with the original Spider-Man movies, then someone realized that probably was the best idea.*


*Even though I love "Hulk," I agree.





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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
Sounds like they would have pissed off one group of people no matter what they did. Leaving the "destined to be Spider-Man" stuff in pisses off the purists, but cutting it ticked off those expecting this film to be radically different from the Raimi franchise.



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.25
I just saw it in Imax and really liked the action scenes-when they finally got to them.
This is what I feared about redoing the franchise- the origin story again. Not that it wasn't well done, but I was just like "let's get to the Spider Man parts already".

This is what was so great about The Avengers- everything was alread set up in the other movies and we could just jump into it.

I will now think of The Help as "the movie with two Gwen Stacys in it" (Stone and Bryce Dallas Howard)
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.57
Do you think the scene where the receptionist doesn't believe Parker is Hispanic is a rib on Garfield's role in The Social Network? B^)

(He's very good in both, BTW.)
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.10
What was the deal with all the receptionists in the movie sounding like robotic phone systems? It was a little freaky.

Especially when one of them kept repeating "Have you found yourself yet?" in a "pleasant" monotone. creeeeeeepy.



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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.25
I think they should take these popcorn movies and release edited "fight scenes only" versions. They could be 20-30 minutes and they could charge 5 bucks or something.

I want to go back and see them again, but I don't want to sit through all the backstory and exposition.
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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
    Originally posted by dMp

    Everyone played their parts well, but I didn't really care for the look of the Lizard.



I'm not the first one to say it, but he looked too much like one of the Goombas from the Super Mario Bros. movie.

I also enjoyed this "take" on Spider-Man ... As for the sequel, he's something I'd like to see (although it'll never happen: sign up Tobey Maguire as the alternate-universe Spidey.

The explosion that "blew up" Venom in SM3 actually created a temporal rift that sent him to the Garfield-verse, so Tobey-Spidey has to go and find him ... This stuff writes itself, people!



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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.37
Ugh.

This quote posted elsewhere completely sums up why I just plain can't stand this movie:

"Peter Parker is a brilliant dork who overcomes his nerdery when he puts the mask on...there's a total disconnect when you take the emo, skateboarding, loner Peter Parker and make him wisecracky Spider-Man. That's a complete misunderstanding of the character."




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