Alright, some of you have loved it & some of you hate it. At least one person here said it looked like it was made at Claire's.
Originally posted by It's False
Is designing a decent title belt really THIS hard?
Apparently it is THAT hard. How do you end up spending a wad of cash on that big on research & development to make that the championship belt to represent your wrestling company, entertainment company, when it's arguably the most prized title in the industry. I'm still in the 50/50 catagory of loving it & loathing it. I think I'm leaning more towards accepting it due the fact I want the replica belt. Yet over the years in the grand scheme of things how does it make you feel when you say that's the WWE Championship?
Sorry if I'm overstepping my bounds since I'm not a mod but all of those links are already on the RAW thread. I know because I posted the wwe.com New WWE Title story on Tuesday and that Sheamus Tweet like 10 minutes ago.
Originally posted by jwrestleHow do end up spending a wad of cash that big one making championship belt to represent your wrestling company, entertainment company, when it's arguably the most prized title in the industry.
Originally posted by John OrquiolaSorry if I'm overstepping my bounds since I'm not a mod but all of those links are already on the RAW thread. I know because I posted the wwe.com New WWE Title story on Tuesday and that Sheamus Tweet like 10 minutes ago.
Checking timestamps, the Sheamus tweet was posted in this thread by ekedolphin a good half hour before you posted the Sheamus tweet in the other thread, so...your move on that one.
I could have done without jwrestle posting a second-hand news item, but technically it's a totally different link from the wwe.com story, and since I didn't read all 3 pages of the wwe.com story, it was nice to have the tidbits placed up there in graphic form (although I have no idea why they are in graphic form and not as text - it's probably a hilarious reason dealing with attribution or plagiarism or something equally confounding)
What I'm saying is, I'm totally cool with the new belt spinning (or not, ha ha!) off into its own thread and just admit you didn't read this thread before you replied in that other one with duplicate content. Also, something about YOU and pasted tweets and irony. Grump grump grump. I need a nap.
Anyway, I think the belt will grow on most of you as time goes on. I also think that if wwe.com makes good on their promise to post some of their prototype "visions" from the past 18 months, there will be at least a few that come out which will elicit a "whew, dodged a bullet there" response.
Originally posted by ME in 2005Looks horrible so far, but maybe I'll like it better when I see it on TV.
I dont remember hating it that much, how about that.
If you think about it, most belts have looked pretty similar for the last 25-30 years. I bet I hated the spinner so much because it was SO different from any other belt I had ever seen before.
I think the reason I dont hate the new one is because it has some similarities to the spinner, which I did eventually get used to and stop hating. One thing I miss in this belt is all the intricate details of the old belts; the words, the eagle, the globe, the colored rubies, all the neat paisley-looking designs, etc. that other belts have. This one's a bit plain to me, aside from the bedazzled-ness that someone else mentioned.
So yeah, I dont hate it, but I dont love it either. Yet.
I posted my initial thoughts in the RAW thread, but now that I've read all that stuff on WWE.com and there's this whole new thread, I figure why not elaborate...
I like it a lot. It's probably the first WWE title design I've liked since the Attitude Era belt. (Although the Undisputed design I have a soft spot for since that was Eddie's belt)
The Winged Eagle is still the definitive WWF/WWE belt to me, because it was very simple, bold, and direct with some detail in it that didn't take away from the main design. This new belt does that, too. You just need to think of the "W" logo as the new eagle. It's not as awesome as the winged eagle belt was, but it fits 2013 just fine.
If you look at modern-day UFC belts, or even the new TNA belt, the company logo is front and center for every single one of them, and WWE is following that trend while also adding its own mark to it. Of course, it also suggests that the scratch logo is here to stay a lot longer. (BRANDING!)
The "W" being cut out and the leather showing through as the background is a really cool element. Also, the jewels work on this one for me. If you look at the belt from different lighting angles, sometimes the gold stands out more, and other times, the white and red jewels stand out on the logo, which is a more interesting look on camera.
The Spinner will always go down as a weird belt. It started off as Cena's version of the "Smoking Skull" belt, but then became the belt that everybody had to pretend that they wanted (I'm guessing because replica sales were high for this version).
I also think that this is why customized wrestler belts are stupid in concept, because the belt should always be bigger than the wrestler holding it to add to its value, not the wrestler changing the belt to suit his image. But this custom belt stuck around for 8 years regardless of who was champion and didn't look good on everyone who held it.
Batista looked cool with it, and it worked for RVD, while others looked like they were wearing a parody of a wrestling belt. The whole time Punk was champion, I really, really wanted them to change it. Guess his reign didn't last long enough for him to get the new one.
I think if Cena wants to bridge the gap between himself and some of his haters, who in part may hate him because of the belt he made them look at for 8 years, one thing he could say is "I want that one, too. Out with the old, in with the new." (You know, like a rap.)
I hope the next belt incorporates LED lights and holograms into the design. Maybe if Jericho gets another run with it before retiring...
I don't love the new belt. I don't hate it either. It was time to replace the spinner belt, that should have just been a custom belt John Cena hauled out, and replaced with the old belt by other title holders.
I do like the customization options with the side plate.
My big problem with the new belt isn't with the belt at all, it's with that damn scratch logo. It's just so dated and ugly, and as a branding concept, it doesn't match the product image that WWE is trying to project. Their product is all about slick, professional style, and the scratch logo is all rough and stripped down - a perfect match to the attitude era that spawned it, but way, way off target for the current product.
Tenken347, I agree. The belt is fine, and definitely makes marketing sense over almost any other belt out there. But why would you spend $50,000 on a metal belt with a trade symbol on it? The logo is what, almost 15 years old now? I can't imagine they haven't thought of changing it. A slight variation appeared in the WWE Network commercials, even.
I guess it's not completely out of the question for a large company to spend another chunk of money on a new belt if they do change the logo (it will probably be cheaper to make a slight change,) but the WWE.com story said something like they are hoping this belt will be around for a long time. I just don't see it.
I still think the WWF logo looks weird without the F.
As far as belts go, the new non-spinning title is okay. Its not great, it needs more globes and eagles, so Swagger better win it soon, so we can get some personalized eaglettes on the sides.
The concept of each champion getting to customize the sides is a compelling idea. I prefer nameplates, but the customized sideplates is pretty much akin to a pictoral nameplate, so I'm okay with it.
I wish Rock had just used his 1999 unused Brahma Bull belt, but I totally see how I'm doing excessive wishful thinking there.
I stopped watching the WWF on a regular basis when Bradshaw won the title, but I don't recall being annoyed by the Spinner Belt making its debut. Cena had already had a personalized Spinner US title belt, which had been temporary in nature, so the spinning world title belt seemed like it was going to be short-term as well. Then, I think Edge had a personalized belt as well? I can imagine why tweener RVD and transitional champ Edge kept it in 2006 what with their reigns being short.
Perhaps Cena getting injured in 2007 got in the way of replacing the belt. Orton being the heel with the missing hero's symbol might have been a good storyline. No excuse for not bringing the old undisputed belt back when Triple H flipped to Smackdown with the title in 2008 though.
I miss the 2009 TNA title belt. The new one looks too garish with the big lettering on it. I appreciate the Immortal title belt more now that everyone making fun of it has become part of its gimmick.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." --- Bart Giamatti, on baseball
Bret Hart joined Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez on the Wrestling Observer Live radio show for about 45 minutes tonight. I figured with all the "rumors" out there lately about Bret, I'd provide a recap of what Bret said to clear them up.