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|  #1 Posted on 30.8.08 0128.30 | Instant Rating: 3.54 | (The old thread looks to be locked now, so I had to start a new thread for the update.)
And it's official! Chad Johnson is no more. Meet Chad Javon Ocho Cinco.
I find it highly amusing that he did this, although it is more than a little irresponsible too I suppose. I'm sure Marvin Lewis is none too happy about this since he apparently hated the nickname.
Now MY question is what does Roger Goodell think of this? I would assume that since Ocho Cinco is Chad's real last name now he can use the name on his jersey, but I can't help but think the NFL will still somehow come up with a way of fining him or suspending him or punishing him for the tomfoolery. Hey, all the more fun for me!
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|  #2 Posted on 30.8.08 0226.34 | Instant Rating: 4.79 | So he's gone from being a Johnson to being a COC?
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| #3 Posted on 30.8.08 0439.12 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | I think if I was the one in charge of assigning numbers, Ol' Chad would be wearing "12" from now on, for this little stunt.
  
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| #4 Posted on 30.8.08 0509.34 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | Originally posted by Kei Posiskunk
I think if I was the one in charge of assigning numbers, Ol' Chad would be wearing "12" from now on, for this little stunt.
Sadly, if I remember my numbering rules correctly, a receiver can only change from an 80-89 number to a 1-19 number if they change teams.
That went into effect a few years ago because players kept running into retired/unassigned numbers (The 'Skins, for one, do not "retire" numbers officially) in the 80s range.
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| #5 Posted on 30.8.08 1029.32 | Instant Rating: 3.53 | I don't like Chad Johnson and most of the stuff he pulls. I wouldn't want him on my team and think he is overrated ... but I think the name change is genius. It's one of those retarded things that will probably make me smile everytime I read, see or hear John Madden say his name now. Are straight laced Buck and Aikman just going to call him Chad?
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| #6 Posted on 30.8.08 1056.17 | Instant Rating: 7.57 | | He realizes "ocho cinco" means "eight five" and not "eighty-five," right? | StingArmy
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| #7 Posted on 30.8.08 1237.55 | Instant Rating: 3.54 | Originally posted by Bullitt
He realizes "ocho cinco" means "eight five" and not "eighty-five," right?
Yes, of course. I don't understand why people keep bringing this point up. Haven't you all heard of major athletes' numbers referred to in that manner? I've heard Jordan referred to as "two three" or "four five" numerous times, for example.
Plus, "Ocho Cinco" sounds way better as a nickname than "Ochenta y Cinco."
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| #8 Posted on 30.8.08 1316.11 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | Originally posted by StingArmy
(The old thread looks to be locked now, so I had to start a new thread for the update.)
And it's official! Chad Johnson is no more. Meet Chad Javon Ocho Cinco.
I find it highly amusing that he did this, although it is more than a little irresponsible too I suppose. I'm sure Marvin Lewis is none too happy about this since he apparently hated the nickname.
Now MY question is what does Roger Goodell think of this? I would assume that since Ocho Cinco is Chad's real last name now he can use the name on his jersey, but I can't help but think the NFL will still somehow come up with a way of fining him or suspending him or punishing him for the tomfoolery. Hey, all the more fun for me!
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Really? Because I can see this resulting in huge jersey sales, meaning big bucks for the NFL and Chad - win/win for both parties. As long as it is his legal name, I don't see why there should be any problems.
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| #9 Posted on 30.8.08 1408.54 | Instant Rating: 7.42 | Originally posted by Zeruel
Originally posted by Kei Posiskunk
I think if I was the one in charge of assigning numbers, Ol' Chad would be wearing "12" from now on, for this little stunt.
Sadly, if I remember my numbering rules correctly, a receiver can only change from an 80-89 number to a 1-19 number if they change teams.
That went into effect a few years ago because players kept running into retired/unassigned numbers (The 'Skins, for one, do not "retire" numbers officially) in the 80s range.
I read earlier today (don't remember where) that if a player changes his number, they have to to reimburse reebok the cost for all the unsold jerseys with his old number.
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| #10 Posted on 30.8.08 1421.20 | Instant Rating: 7.14 | Originally posted by StingArmy
I don't understand why people keep bringing this point up.
We bring it up because Johnson is a self-promoting tool who isn't even the top WR on his own team.
Just because HE calls himself Ocho Cinco doesn't mean YOU have to.
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| #11 Posted on 30.8.08 1622.02 | Instant Rating: 5.11 | Originally posted by Bullitt
Originally posted by StingArmy
I don't understand why people keep bringing this point up.
We bring it up because Johnson is a self-promoting tool who isn't even the top WR on his own team.
Just because HE calls himself Ocho CInco doesn't mean YOU have to.
Well, officially you do now. Unofficially, you can call him Chad Johnson, or Asshole, or whatever you want, but a person's official name has to be on the jersey (hence why this happened). I don't understand it, because "He Hate Me" was probably the best thing to come out of the XFL. Rod Smart just doesn't have the same ring. | redsoxnation
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| #12 Posted on 30.8.08 2039.47 | Instant Rating: 4.41 | | Does Javon mean Never Won a Playoff Game? | Psycho Penguin
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| #13 Posted on 31.8.08 0308.35 | Instant Rating: 2.09 | Since that's how wide receivers playing for the Bengals should be judged!
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| #14 Posted on 31.8.08 0322.15 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | Originally posted by StingArmy
Originally posted by Bullitt
He realizes "ocho cinco" means "eight five" and not "eighty-five," right?
Yes, of course. I don't understand why people keep bringing this point up. Haven't you all heard of major athletes' numbers referred to in that manner? I've heard Jordan referred to as "two three" or "four five" numerous times, for example.
I have never heard Jordan, or anyone else, refered as "two three" or "single digit single digit."
Art Monk has always been called Eighty One. Darrel Green was always Twenty Eight. Sean Taylor was, and forever will be, Twenty One. Maybe it's a DC thing, but we pronounce the numbers correctly.
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|  #15 Posted on 31.8.08 1554.01 | Instant Rating: 2.00 | I guess 'Ochenta y Cinco' just doesn't have the same ring to it?
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| #16 Posted on 2.9.08 1038.25 | Instant Rating: 3.21 | I know I'm totally in the minority of this, but good for Chad Javon Ocho Cinco. These days the League is tightening up so much that some grains of sand are bound to escape. Guys getting suspended for having their name associated with problems without a conviction from the U.S. legal system. In some cases it's good, but what happens when it goes too far and becomes overreactionary? I await (and, regretably, forsee) the day a player sues the NFL over money they lost in games they couldn't play for crimes they didn't commit.
No excessive dancing or celebration after anything in the league. They're leaving the self policing of the league itself out of it; if I don't want to see a guy dancing like a fool in the endzone, don't let him in it!
The man sacrificed his own damn name for the sake of self expression. Ballsy, ballsy move, I don't even have that kind of chutzpah, doesn't make him an asshole or any less a person.
On that note, I'll be laughing all day long the day he goes to another team and is not allowed to wear 85.
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| #17 Posted on 2.9.08 1105.28 | Instant Rating: 5.16 | Re: the single number debate, as I do with all important questions, I turn to Jay-Z.
Originally posted by Jay-Z "Encore"
When I come back like Jordan, wearin the 4-5
It ain't to play games witchu
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| #18 Posted on 2.9.08 1141.56 | Instant Rating: 6.07 | On the great big list of Dumb Shit Done By Chad Callhimwhatyouwill this ranks pretty low for me, and veers much more toward "playful douchebag" than "out-and-out asshole".
Heck most of the things he's said since then about having bridges to build and all have been flat out impressive by his standards.
Originally posted by Bullitt
We bring it up because Johnson is a self-promoting tool who isn't even the top WR on his own team.
Self-promoting tool yes. Not the top WR on his own team, no. And come on, it's not even close.
I know cold hard stats aren't everything, but he's racked up 3000+ more yards and 16 more touchdowns than TJ whilst being the one who (generally) attracts the majority of double teams and gets covered by the other teams better CB.
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| #19 Posted on 2.9.08 1151.12 | Instant Rating: 7.36 | Originally posted by dMr
I know cold hard stats aren't everything, but he's racked up 3000+ more yards and 16 more touchdowns than TJ whilst being the one who (generally) attracts the majority of double teams and gets covered by the other teams better CB.
He's probably overrated, he's definitely an idiot, but that doesn't mean he's not a bloody good football player.
Please don't compare their career stats; Houshy has only been the starting receivers for 4 years. Chad still has the better stats, but let's not pretend that Houshy is not also a really good receiver.
In the last four years:
Chad 372 rec, 5515 yds, 33 tds
Houshy 353 rec, 4158 yds, 32 tds
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| #20 Posted on 2.9.08 1206.04 | Instant Rating: 6.07 | Originally posted by hansen9j
Please don't compare their career stats; Houshy has only been the starting receivers for 4 years. Chad still has the better stats, but let's not pretend that Houshy is not also a really good receiver.
In the last four years:
Chad 372 rec, 5515 yds, 33 tds
Houshy 353 rec, 4158 yds, 32 tds
I meant not to detract from young Houshy, though now that I look back "it's not even close" was an exceptionally poor choice of words that being the case.
I stand by Chad being much the better player, and compiling his stats while attracting greater attention from opposition Ds but I think both of them are very fine receivers indeed.
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