Originally posted by JustinShapiroI question David's judgment in hiring a former temp still in business school for Jan's position! But I like how Ryan gets promoted every year -- temp to full-time to Jim's job to corporate.
Not to mention that Ryan has yet to make a sale. I have a feeling that Ryan might prove more incompetent than either Jan or Michael. Didn't Jan's position oversee all of the branches? Ryan is in WAY over his head - and hilarity will ensue.
"Oh my God! They have a shit-load of Cockapoo stuff!" -Jennifer's greatest quote... ever.
I think the ending with Ryan would have been 100x more hilar if, instead of "it'll be nice having another MBA around here", David had said "it'll be nice having another Cornell man around here" (David having attended Cornell in this scenario) and the guy on the phone was Andy, who would then give an evil smirk to the camera with perhaps Dwight sitting in the background of the shot ala Kelly. It would have paid off the season-long stuff about what an ass-kisser Andy is and how he's always bragging about being an ivy leaguer and Cornell's alumni network and all that. And hiring a guy with anger issues is no worse than hiring the ex-temp.
However, the ultimate payoff of Ryan being Michael's boss will surely lead to more hilarity than the one-note Andy reaction.
Originally posted by LeroyRyan is in WAY over his head - and hilarity will ensue.
Possibly, but I always thought Ryan was way too smart for his temp position and pretty darn smart for Jim's old spot.
I think he either got some other job, like The Big Kat suggested, or he gets Jan's job but he's a jerk about paying everyone at Scranton back for how he was treated while he was there.
But like everyone else said, awesome episode. And Jan's new boobies were pretty hott. But yeah, so did Jim dump Karen last night? Maybe she got the job and he told her he wasnt moving to NY with her? As much as I wanna see Jim & Pam together, that would be kind of a dick move if he dumped Karen like that.
Originally posted by EddieBurkettI'm concerned, though. TV relationships are generally all about the chase. I worry that, as with Ross & Rachel and Sam & Diane and even Luke & Lorelai the writers will feel the need to break them up to restore some tension to the show. Maybe I'm being forgetful at the moment, but I can't think of any primary couples that were allowed to have their courtship and then a relationship without breaking up and being dramatic about it. I'm hoping that someone can provide an example to prove me wrong.
Niles and Daphne had their big moment, then a few additional obstacles like their divorces and Daphne getting fat, but they were together for the rest of the show. Monica and Chandler stayed together for the rest of the show but I guess there was no build-up or courtship there. I wonder how it's possible to live in a world where Jim and Pam date but I also wondered how they would do the show after Jim's confession last year so I trust their instincts. I hope by virtue of not getting the job, Fillapelli ends up still in Scranton as opposed to quitting. That would maintain a good deal of tension and Office-style awkwardness. Plus Karen is cool.
Originally posted by JustinShapiroNiles and Daphne had their big moment, then a few additional obstacles like their divorces and Daphne getting fat, but they were together for the rest of the show. Monica and Chandler stayed together for the rest of the show but I guess there was no build-up or courtship there. I wonder how it's possible to live in a world where Jim and Pam date but I also wondered how they would do the show after Jim's confession last year so I trust their instincts. I hope by virtue of not getting the job, Fillapelli ends up still in Scranton as opposed to quitting. That would maintain a good deal of tension and Office-style awkwardness. Plus Karen is cool.
I anticipated the Chandler-Monica argument, which is why I specified primary earlier. (Ross and Rachel is always the #1 Friends relationship). Like you said, they lacked the proper buildup. Niles and Daphne did have the buildup, but their relationship was more for comic relief than a main focus of the show. Even if Pam and Jim aren't together yet, I worry about burning out on them. But, as pointed out, the show has allayed any fears thus far, so this is all needless speculation.
I like the argument that Jim only asked Pam to dinner, but that doesn't justify his sudden driving the three (or is it six?) hours back to Scranton impetuously (or was it planned that he would be returning without Karen?) just to invite Pam to dinner. That act was just as melodramatic as what he did last year. Even if it is only dinner, that alone telegraphs that he is ready for way more with her than he is with Karen.
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I thought Jim's attitude around Karen the whole episode indicated that he was done with her. There was never any question for me that that relationship wasn't going to make it past the end of the episode.
One thing I am really enjoying about this story (books and show) is that everyone has problems. Even the villains. Take Lord of the Rings - the bad guys are one dimensional. Sauron is an evil eye. The orcs are evil, act evil, do evil, and that's it.