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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.40
    Originally posted by Battlezone
    Tennessee plays in a multi-overtime thriller, and I'm stuck on a bus heading to the Apple Cup.


At least it was a fun game, even if the wrong team won. Stupid Corey Williams.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
Well, believe it or not, it's actually simple at this point: Mizzou vs. West Virginia, if they both win next week (Mizzou vs. Oklahoma in the Big 12 title game, West Virginia vs. Pittsburgh). If one loses, Ohio St. is back in the title game. If both lose, then all hell breaks loose again.

Hawaii is up to 12 in the latest BCS poll, so if they can hold serve vs. Washington, they should get a slot in the BCS, projections have them in the Sugar.

ESPN has 2 sets of projections up at this point, assuming that West Virginia has the easier road this Saturday:

If Missouri wins:
BCS Championship- West Virginia-Missouri
Rose Bowl- Ohio St.-USC
Orange Bowl- Virginia Tech-Georgia
Fiesta Bowl- Kansas-Arizona St.
Sugar Bowl- Hawaii-LSU

If Oklahoma wins:
BCS Championship- West Virginia-Ohio St.
Rose- USC-Illinois
Orange- Virginia Tech-Georgia
Fiesta- Oklahoma-Arizona St.
Sugar- Hawaii-LSU




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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
So let's look at teams that have a chance in the BCS, by conference:
Big 12 (2): Missouri is basically in either way. Kansas needs Missouri to win, because if Oklahoma wins, then Missouri probably gets ahead of Kansas.
Big East (1): West Virginia is in.
Big Ten (1/2): Ohio State is in. Illinois has a shot to be in the top 14 and be eligible if a team ahead of them loses.
SEC (2): Georgia and the SEC Champ (either LSU or Tenessee) are in.
ACC (1/2): The champion is in. If Boston College pulls the upset over Virginia Tech, Tech probably gets in as a wild-card.
Pac-10 (1/2): USC is in no matter what. Arizona State is in with a win. Oregon is in if the win the conference (win, ASU loss, and USC loss).
Hawaii (0/1): in with a win.

Incidentally, the BCS made a rule that they could take teams lower than #14 if there weren't enough available. I can't figure out a scenario where that would come into play. In order for that to happen, 5 of the top 14 teams would have to be ineligible.
I mean, lets assume Hawaii loses.
If Tennessee beats LSU, that's probably 4 SEC teams in the top 14. Only two can get in, and two are eliminated.
If Oklahoma beats Missouri, that's probably 3 Big 12 teams in the top 14. One will be ineligible.
That leaves 7 more in the top 14. Let's say USC wins, and Arizona State and Oregon lose. USC is the only Pac-10 team eligible. West Virginia is the only Big East team. The Arizona State loss brings Illinois into the top 14. So that's two Big Ten teams. The Hawaii loss brings Clemson in the top 14. So if BC beats Va Tech, that's 3 ACC teams. Of these top 14, 2 SEC + 2 Big 12 + 1 Pac-10 + 1 Big East + 2 ACC + 2 Big Ten = 10 teams. If Hawaii wins, then they take Clemson's spot and you have 11 teams competing for 10 spots. Does anyone have a scenario where they won't have 10 eligible teams in the top 14?

Put another way, you would have to come up with a scenario where 11 of the top 14 teams are in 3 conferences (6 teams from those conferences + the 3 other teams = 9). Seems impossible this year.

(edited by Mr. Boffo on 26.11.07 0002)
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.57
Oregon has already been eliminated from the Pac-10 race, as an Arizona State loss plus a loss by USC would mean UCLA would win the conference. Yes, the same UCLA that lost to Notre Dame would go to the Rose Bowl.
Barring a Hawaii loss, the Sugar Bowl is set for SEC Champ vs. Hawaii.
I think Illinois is in the BCS no matter what. They bring in the Chicago media market and would travel and sell hotel rooms. Outside of the National Title Game, that is the only real criteria, outside the 3 team rule, to determine from amongst eligible teams. I'd look at the match-up's this way, should a miracle occur and form hold:

Title Game: Missouri vs. West Virginia.
Rose: USC vs. Ohio State (An impressive Ohio State win plus a dud BCS Title Game could cause a split national title).
Sugar: SEC Champ (I can't even pencil in LSU anymore) vs. Hawaii.
Fiesta: Illinois vs. Kansas.
Orange: Georgia vs. Virginia Tech.

Now, should ALL hell break loose(except for a Washington victory) this weekend, a guess.

Title Game: Georgia vs. Ohio State.
Sugar Bowl: Tennessee vs. Hawaii.
Rose Bowl: Illiois vs. UCLA.
Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs. 3-loss Virginia Tech/Arizona State/USC.
Orange Bowl: Boston College vs. Missouri

In that scenario, throw one of the 3 loss teams into the Sugar Bowl should Hawaii lose. Kansas would have a better record than all but 1 team in that situation, yet still would be going to the Holiday Bowl.

(edited by redsoxnation on 26.11.07 0845)
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.40
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Now, should ALL hell break loose(except for a Washington victory) this weekend, a guess.


Hey!

Actually, a Washington victory would be the perfect capper (along with the UCLA goes to the Rose Bowl-scenario) to this crazy season. The only way it's going to happen is if Colt Brennan tosses five picks like he did at Idaho, and I'm not impressed with the chances that is going to happen. Washington did take care of Boise State, though, so they should at least give Hawaii a game.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Now, should ALL hell break loose(except for a Washington victory) this weekend, a guess.

    Title Game: Georgia vs. Ohio State.
    Sugar Bowl: Tennessee vs. Hawaii.
    Rose Bowl: Illiois vs. UCLA.
    Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs. 3-loss Virginia Tech/Arizona State/USC.
    Orange Bowl: Boston College vs. Missouri

    In that scenario, throw one of the 3 loss teams into the Sugar Bowl should Hawaii lose. Kansas would have a better record than all but 1 team in that situation, yet still would be going to the Holiday Bowl.




West Virginia is in a BCS game, no matter what. They've clinched, at worst, a share of the Big East title, and the conference BCS slot on a tiebreak over UConn. If they don't make the title game, they probably slot into the Orange Bowl.

(edited by kwik on 26.11.07 1012)


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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.57
    Originally posted by kwik
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Now, should ALL hell break loose(except for a Washington victory) this weekend, a guess.

      Title Game: Georgia vs. Ohio State.
      Sugar Bowl: Tennessee vs. Hawaii.
      Rose Bowl: Illinois vs. UCLA.
      Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs. 3-loss Virginia Tech/Arizona State/USC.
      Orange Bowl: Boston College vs. Missouri

      In that scenario, throw one of the 3 loss teams into the Sugar Bowl should Hawaii lose. Kansas would have a better record than all but 1 team in that situation, yet still would be going to the Holiday Bowl.




    West Virginia is in a BCS game, no matter what. They've clinched, at worst, a share of the Big East title, and the conference BCS slot on a tiebreak over UConn. If they don't make the title game, they probably slot into the Orange Bowl.

    (edited by kwik on 26.11.07 1012)





As I was typing it I kept thinking I knew I was missing some team. I'd say Fiesta for West Virginia if both they and Missouri lost, as West Virginia being in the Orange would mean a 3rd match-up between Missouri and Oklahoma, which would be hard to justify if Oklahoma already had beaten them twice, unless Missouri got bumped and it was Kansas vs. Oklahoma.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Oregon has already been eliminated from the Pac-10 race, as an Arizona State loss plus a loss by USC would mean UCLA would win the conference.

Ah, you're right. I sometimes forget that the non-conference schedule is basically irrelevant. It's pretty strange. That'd be like an NFL team that goes 5-1 in conference but finishes 5-11 overall winning their division over a team that went 4-2 in conference but finished 12-4 overall.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

This is the current top 25 for week 13, games through Sunday, November 25th 2007.


Rnk Pre Team Record Rating Conf (Top three are noted)
1 5 Missouri 11-1 1308.02257 ***Big 12 #1 (North champ)
2 4 Georgia 10-2 1305.83544 ***SEC #1
3 2 Ohio State 11-1 1305.75802 ***Big Ten champ
4 6 West Virginia 10-1 1303.05522 ***Big East champ
5 1 LSU 10-2 1297.37009 SEC #2 (West champ)

6 3 Kansas 11-1 1294.67005 Big 12 #2
7 8 Florida 9-3 1291.32188 SEC #3
8 9 Virginia Tech 10-2 1290.66101 ***ACC #1 (Costal champ)
9 14 Tennessee 9-3 1284.39250
10 15 Oklahoma 10-2 1283.46803 Big 12 #3 (South champ)

11 13 USC 9-2 1282.00006 ***PAC 10 #1
12 12 Boston College 10-2 1281.39690 ACC #2 (Atlantic champ)
13 7 Arizona State 9-2 1278.51221 PAC 10 #2
14 20 Hawaii 11-0 1275.15182 ***WAC champ
15 22 Clemson 9-3 1267.43064 ACC #3

16 18 Illinois 9-3 1267.01226 Big Ten #2
17 10 Virginia 9-3 1263.79612
18 11 Texas 9-3 1262.95661
19 23 BYU 9-2 1262.92067 ***MWC champ
20 37 Arkansas 8-4 1258.13870

21 21 Wisconsin 9-3 1257.91781 Big Ten #3
22 30 Auburn 8-4 1257.83384
23 25 South Florida 9-3 1256.94258 Big East #2
24 16 Oregon 8-3 1256.33145 PAC 10 #3
25 29 Wake Forest 8-4 1255.95682


Click here for the full 120 team rankings.


(edited by Zeruel on 26.11.07 1740)


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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
      Originally posted by StingArmy
      I completely disagree. Dennis Dixon has stood apart plenty.

    If I had a Heisman vote, it'd be for Dixon, for two reasons: 1) His level of play while he was out there was among the best of any quarterback in the country. 2) Oregon's gone completely into the tank without him, which says a lot of what his value was to the team, and that's a big part of what the Heisman is supposed to be, IMO.


Just caught this in rereading threads. You did this last year too I think. I know it's what you think the Heisman is "supposed" to be about, but it's incorrect. It's clearly defined as "most outstanding" player. Nothing to do with MVP.

But you are right, if it was MVP I think Dixon would have a slight edge over Tebow if only because one would assume the Gators wouldn't suck as much as Oregon does without Dixon. I mean at least they've got Harvin.

They really should just create a seperate MVP type award to keep people from being confused about this.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Yet another playoff idea, this time from Yahoo.

It's basically the I-AA, II, and III system.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=dw-playoff112707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
Just in case anyone is job hunting, from the Michigan website:

Job ID: 13431
Job Title: HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
Job/Career Family: Athletics
Country: United States of America
State: Michigan
City: Ann Arbor
Job Type: Regular
Full Time: Yes
Date Posted: Nov 26 2007
Minimum Salary:
Maximum Salary:
Salary Frequency: Annual
Job Description and Responsibilities: Market Title: Head Football Coach
FLSA: Exempt
Salary Range: To be Determined
Hours/Week: 40
Shift: Days/Evenings/Weekends

The University of Michigan invites applications for the position of Head Football Coach. This position entails the leadership of all phases of the Football program. Responsibilities include, but are not limited to; coaching, the recruitment of qualified student-athletes, support of the academic progress of student-athletes, budget management, and community relations.
Job Requirements: Minimum qualifications: Bachelorís degree required. A thorough knowledge of NCAA rules and regulations is required.

Preferred qualifications: Graduate degree. Previous collegiate head coaching experience.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    Hours/Week: 40


Yea, not so much.



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