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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.76
    Originally posted by The Goon
    For one jackass who burned his nuts on a plane, he's done a lot of damage.

    Effective immediately, those of us flying to the USA now have to be searched twice (including a patdown) and stay seated for the final hour of the flight.

    Air Canada warns that the restrictions "may adversely impact on-board service. Among other things, during the final hour of flight customers must remain seated, will not be allowed to access carry-on baggage, or have personal belongings or other items on their laps."

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    That's just great.


As someone who flys quite a bit (although admittedly not internationally at the moment), a small price to pay in my opinion. I'm also glad this guy was unsuccessful in his attempt in that we apparently know how he was trying to do it so we can hopefully prevent this type of activity going forward.

Would have made the aftermath *much* more difficult had he succeeded and we not known how . . .



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.54

Well, about and hour ago I made it through airport security with two 3oz tubes of sunblock and shaving cream in my bag (I completely forgot I had them, and they were in a zip lock bag), so I have little faith that much will change if you are on a domestic flight.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.85
    Originally posted by DrewDewce
      Originally posted by The Goon
      For one jackass who burned his nuts on a plane, he's done a lot of damage.

      Effective immediately, those of us flying to the USA now have to be searched twice (including a patdown) and stay seated for the final hour of the flight.

      Air Canada warns that the restrictions "may adversely impact on-board service. Among other things, during the final hour of flight customers must remain seated, will not be allowed to access carry-on baggage, or have personal belongings or other items on their laps."

      Article

      That's just great.


    As someone who flys quite a bit (although admittedly not internationally at the moment), a small price to pay in my opinion.
Telling me I can't listen to my iPod during the last hour of a flight makes NOBODY safer. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.

The TSA didn't prevent this attack, and all this new crap isn't going to help the TSA prevent the NEXT attack either.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
    Originally posted by CRZ
    Telling me I can't listen to my iPod during the last hour of a flight makes NOBODY safer. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.


They seem to think that once something happens, that they need to prepare for a repeat of the exact same thing. Which makes no sense at all.

Will they not even let you have a book? I have a couple of international flights coming up. Not being able to read or listen to anything for the last hour would be a real PITA, if that will be the case. (So far, I've only heard of this being the rule for flights from Canada, though, so I may not be affected anyway.) And, as you say...it's not like it's going to actually make us safer.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.28
Man, I'm glad I don't fly. I'd rather take the Greyhound or the train to get to where I want to go.

I have no issues with security, but that's just pathetic. Not being able to use your electronics on a flight? The inability to access your stuff for the last hour of a flight?

What's next? Being strapped into your seat with a straitjacket?








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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.48
I fly four times in the next two weeks, all domestic, so I will do my best to report.

I anticipate the most changes will be in security. I am anxious to see what Phoenix will be like, since it is a bit of a gateway airport. I'll be getting on at Louisville 2 times, and then Phoenix and Dallas. Passing through Memphis and Atlanta. So we'll see.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.43
    Originally posted by AWArulz
    I fly four times in the next two weeks, all domestic, so I will do my best to report.

    I anticipate the most changes will be in security. I am anxious to see what Phoenix will be like, since it is a bit of a gateway airport. I'll be getting on at Louisville 2 times, and then Phoenix and Dallas. Passing through Memphis and Atlanta. So we'll see.
All reports I've heard are that, as long as you're domestic, not much of a change.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.86
Anyone doing US to Canada soon? It seems excessive to enforce the 1 hour thing from Canada if they aren't doing it domestically.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
I flew last night from New York to Hong Kong, and absolutely nothing was different than it would have otherwise been. I'll let you know if it's any different for the last leg of my flight. (I'm already in Departures, so the security at least has been the same.)
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.05
    Originally posted by Lise
    Anyone doing US to Canada soon? It seems excessive to enforce the 1 hour thing from Canada if they aren't doing it domestically.


I'm not, but we have a conference in Toronto next week involving hundreds of folks coming up from and going back to the USA. Our conference co-ordinators are going nuts with the new rules as the final day has to be completely re-arranged to ensure everyone makes their flight back.

Airports up here have been so backed up that the RCMP have been called in to assist with the patdowns of US-bound passengers.

The other thing that is interesting is that even with my Calgary-Toronto flight next week, apparently the satellite TV has to be turned off at any point we are over US airspace (which is a decent portion of the flight), so would-be terrorists don't see exactly where we are on the "plane map" channel.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.85
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    I flew last night from New York to Hong Kong, and absolutely nothing was different than it would have otherwise been. I'll let you know if it's any different for the last leg of my flight. (I'm already in Departures, so the security at least has been the same.)
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy the flag code is working and all, but if you're in Hong Kong, why on earth are you HERE?!



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.86
Ye gods. I guess if I'm going to Canada it is by car.

This does not make me feel safer. This makes me feel like avoiding flying as much as possible. If I was a cynical conspiracy theorist, I'd say this was all a plot to get government owned airlines.

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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.34
Flew to EWR on the 27th, from Amsterdam with Delta.
So yeah..we got patted down heavily and all of our carry-on bags were thoroughly searched instead of the usual x-ray only.

The last 30 minutes or so they restarted one of the movies instead of the flight info.

Also, we werent allowed to have large things on our lap.
People were still reading books but mostly holding them up and not so much on their laps.
Same for electronics. ipods and such were still being used but an eye was being kept out.

Also, and this was the "most interesting" thing.
I noticed that right after landing, at the door of the plane, several african people were taken aside and their papers were looked at. I never have seen this happen before (and I've flown to EWR about 8 times the past 3 years)
I like to think it was a complete coincidence but I'm not sure....





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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
      I flew last night from New York to Hong Kong, and absolutely nothing was different than it would have otherwise been. I'll let you know if it's any different for the last leg of my flight. (I'm already in Departures, so the security at least has been the same.)
    Don't get me wrong, I'm happy the flag code is working and all, but if you're in Hong Kong, why on earth are you HERE?!


hehe...didn't even get out of the airport, so I did some internetting during the layover.

Of course, that doesn't explain why I'm still checking in here now that I'm in Singapore. B^) Well, had to come check my email and stuff...
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