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Since: 25.4.03
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.07

Schreer is reporting at pwinsider.com that good ol' billionaire Ted is thinking of a return to the wrestling business.

"- I have heard from a few well places sources that Ted Turner is seriously considering a return to the business that helped put his SuperStation WTBS on the map 25 years ago, professional wrestling."

"- As the story goes, when AOL merged with Time Warner, Turner signed documents as he was losing more of his power within the company. One of them was that he would not compete with AOL Time Warner in the wrestling business. Our sources tells us this agreement ends in March of 2005."

"- In March of 2001, Brad Siegel and Jamie Kellner effectively killed WCW by canceling its programming off of TBS and TNT. The company was sold to WWE, which then gutted it. A source close to the situation told me that there is a five year no-compete for wrestling programming between AOL Time Warner and WWE, which would expire in March of 2006"

"- In order for a promotion to work, they would need TV. TNT has changed its image to the drama network so it's not expected that the proposed company could air there, but TBS is wide open. Plus, Kellner is no longer in charge and he was the main opponent to airing wrestling on the network."

"-The word making the rounds is that Turner may already be laying the groundwork for promotion. One source told me that he has already sent out feelers to Steve Austin and Bill Goldberg about being involved with the project if it goes forward. If it all comes together, those at least on of those two would be featured part of the new group, with preferably both being there. Much like the jump of Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall to WCW in the mid 90s could be exactly what a new company would need to get off the ground running."

"-Turner has always had a lot of loyalty to wrestling so while it's early in the game, this is a story with legs that we will continue to follow."


He should just try and work a deal with the Jarretts to showcase TNA on his channels ... That might be the best way to give Vince his closest comptetion.







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Hey, why the hell not. Anything to give Vince some decent competition. If he buys TNA, that might be even better.

Of course, I would probably look out more likely for a new company with the old NWO crew, Sting, Goldberg, and a new crew of vanilla midgets.



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I hope that comes true. If we've learned anything over the past three years, its that competition brings out the best in everyone. The faux-feud between Raw and SmackDown isn't competition. Neither is TNA in its current state.

Turner could probably put a promotion together with the spare change he finds under his couch cushions, and it would instantly be a number two company. There's enough established (read: old) talent available, plus whatever up and comers haven't yet signed their life away to TNA, to make for a decent group.

The only thing is -- this time around, Turner would have to do something different with the way its promoted. A second-rate WWE won't mean anything in this market. It will be all about surrounding himself with the right people and coming up with a new concept.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
I don't see what makes THIS "Ted Turner wants to get back into wrestling" rumor any different than the last 500, except that Austin is on the market now. And to be honest with you, while I know Turner LOVES wrestling which is great and all, I don't think he'd run the next one any better than the last one, and this time there isn't nearly the kind of talent pool that he had when WCW got going several years ago (mostly because everybody is that much older, and you can't really base your promotion on two guys who are only going to be willing to work a couple matches a year).



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.34
    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    I don't see what makes THIS "Ted Turner wants to get back into wrestling" rumor any different than the last 500, except that Austin is on the market now. And to be honest with you, while I know Turner LOVES wrestling which is great and all, I don't think he'd run the next one any better than the last one, and this time there isn't nearly the kind of talent pool that he had when WCW got going several years ago (mostly because everybody is that much older, and you can't really base your promotion on two guys who are only going to be willing to work a couple matches a year).


BUT this 2 guys might be more willing to wrestle more if they feel like they are being treated right! if he bought tna that would be his best bet. that way he could have the young talent and be able to have stone cold, Goldberg, Kevin Nash, Scott hall, sting and a few others to get the people to watch it! I know I would



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The other thing that makes this different than the other rumors (maybe) is that Turner's no-compete clause expires next year, so sayeth Mr. Scherer. So perhaps he's getting the wheels in motion to start this by next year.

And I agree that two names does NOT a promotion make. Austin and Goldberg would be cool, but how long can you keep that feud/match going? Three months, max?

Like I said before, if Turner or anyone else with money tries to create a WWE knockoff, the project will be dead in the water....



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
It won't happen, but I'd laugh if Turner came back and drove Vince out of business. Then we'd get a Monday Night War Redux DVD, with bonus footage of Gerald Briscoe wrestling in some armory because he went broke, lost his job and had to support three feral children.



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All he needs to do is buy TNA, sign Austin, Goldberg and Hogan then start recruiting. RVD's contract is up in the Summer, offer to make him a proper star. Snatch up Sean O'Haire and some other WWE cast-offs then start offering jobs to up and comers such as Cena, Dupree, Benjamin, Haas, Orton and offer to make them bonafide main eventers then start going for the bigger stars till Vince is outta business.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.56
Hell, thats all you gotta do?

Why isnt TNA on top then?



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.96
    Originally posted by jk
    All he needs to do is buy TNA, sign Austin, Goldberg and Hogan then start recruiting. RVD's contract is up in the Summer, offer to make him a proper star. Snatch up Sean O'Haire and some other WWE cast-offs then start offering jobs to up and comers such as Cena, Dupree, Benjamin, Haas, Orton and offer to make them bonafide main eventers then start going for the bigger stars till Vince is outta business.


Holy leap of faith/assumption, batman! I think it would take a lot for Turner to come back to put Vince completely out of business. After all, WWE already has all the tools/players in place...and I'm not just talking the wrestlers, I'm talking the entire COMPANY.

    Originally posted by CANADIAN BULLDOG
    A second-rate WWE won't mean anything in this market. It will be all about surrounding himself with the right people and coming up with a new concept.


The DOG is exactly right...its about surrounding yourself with the right WRESTLING minded/experienced people to be able to pull off being a super competitive company. Money, instant TV, and a few former WWE stars will get you but so far--its the other intangibles that will make or break it (IMO).



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.15
    Originally posted by Mayhem



    He should just try and work a deal with the Jarretts to showcase TNA on his channels ... That might be the best way to give Vince his closest comptetion.





"His" channels? What channels does he still control? Aren't all his networks now owned by Time Warner?

I think he'd have to make a deal with TW to get on TBS (or whatever), and if TBS wanted to make a deal with TNA they would presumably have already done so.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.31
The only thing that Turner would bring to the table that current indies don't have is money. With Turner bankrolling a company, it would be a hell of a lot easy to get t.v. time, pay-per-view, and larger arenas, because Turner could basically put up some collaterol to keep the venues from losing money on the deal. In other words, Turner could get an indy the one thing they really need to compete on the WWE's level: exposure.


Not that I think there's any bearing to this rumor.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.79
    Originally posted by Tenken347
    The only thing that Turner would bring to the table that current indies don't have is money. With Turner bankrolling a company, it would be a hell of a lot easy to get t.v. time, pay-per-view, and larger arenas, because Turner could basically put up some collaterol to keep the venues from losing money on the deal. In other words, Turner could get an indy the one thing they really need to compete on the WWE's level: exposure.


Well, money's not the ONLY thing. I would believe that advertisers, television executives, arena officials, etc. would be a lot more willing to trust Ted Turner on a new wrestling concept than they would, say, Jeff Jarrett. Or pretty much anyone outside of Vince McMahon & Co.

Give Turner enough credit for what he's done in the businesses of sports, entertainment and television that it's not just his money that could help a project along. Clout plays a huge part in it.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.67
Bischoff, in Turner's eyes, is the man who turned WCW around. Im sure Bisch would love the chance to work for Ted again and bring out the rare Mcmahon creativity we havent seen in 7 years. This is pretty damn exciting if its true...how reliable is Scherer anyways?
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
    Originally posted by jk
    All he needs to do is buy TNA, sign Austin, Goldberg and Hogan then start recruiting.


A cripple, a guy that hates the wrestling business and a guy my dad's age. They're going to SHOCK THE WORLD!


    RVD's contract is up in the Summer, offer to make him a proper star.


Actually, I'm pretty sure Rob renewed a three year deal last year.

All right, so if Turner's no-compete deal is up, and he can finally pull together a company, if that is indeed what he really wants to do, I'd still believe that he'd be smart enough to see the slim pickins he has, especially now that the guys that he was willing to pay shit tons of money for five years ago, are now five years older. MAYBE if he bought TNA and ran with it, he'd be able to get something going, but I'd imagine he'd have to see something more than a few thousand buys a month to convince him to buy a roster full of throwaways and Indytastic guys who the majority of the country hasn't heard of. I'm not putting it past Ted to pick up Sting, Luger, Goldberg, Austin, Hogan, Savage, Silver King, Barry Horowitz, and Erik Watts and try to make a promotion out of them, I'm just saying that I would be wary of doing it if I were him, given the relative age, potential injuries, monetary, market, and general surliness issues that would all be smushed together in this potential promotion.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.95
    Originally posted by QUIX
    Well, if Billionaire Ted was smart...


If he was smart? How do you suppose he became a billionaire?

If this rumour turn out to be true, I can oly see it being a good thing. Even if Ted's hypothetical new promotion flops, at least it'll make things interesting for a while. And we internet smarks will have a whole host of new things to talk/bitch about. That should make us all happy.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.65
    Originally posted by Mayhem
    "In order for a promotion to work, they would need TV. TNT has changed its image to the drama network so it's not expected that the proposed company could air there, but TBS is wide open. Plus, Kellner is no longer in charge and he was the main opponent to airing wrestling on the network."


TBS is going to focus more on comedy. As TNT becomes the "drama channel," TBS is going to become the "comedy channel."

So maybe hiring Goldberg, Hall, Nash etc. would help them.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.59
If Turner were to start a company, please; for the love of God, don't let Ole Anderson near the book.




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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.25
When I red this a part of me jump for joy. Anything to make wrestling a little better I am all for it. I hope it happens I hope he gets great wrestlers and I hope he makes WWE run for their money.





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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.04
Why would Turner want TNA? At least with JCP he was buying something with succesfull ratings and fan support.
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