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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.53

There are an awfully lot of Illinois fans making Bucknell their second-favorite team tonight.

That was a very Laettnerish last shot attempt though....



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
What a great game. I love how Northern Iowa's band filled in for Bucknell's band, who were away on Spring Break. They actually did a great job, and it was wonderful that, by the end, it seemed like the whole arena was screaming for a Bucknell win.

What a bad way for KU seniors to end their careers, though.
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What was doubly annoying about that game is I was in the region of the country that was getting the Miss. St - Stanford game, which was a blowout from about the 16-minute remaining mark in the second half. Meanwhile, the other three games are at least closer than 10, and there were a couple of potential upsets brewing. However, we don't switch over until the Miss. St - Stanford game is at a margin of 20+ and there's only a minute left in Bucknell / Kansas.

That being said, fantastic job by Bucknell. Who would've thought that a hook would be the winning shot?
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.70
I had Kansas going to the elite 8 in my pool. Gets balanced out though by Vermont coming through against The Cuse.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.41
    Originally posted by TheCow
    What was doubly annoying about that game is I was in the region of the country that was getting the Miss. St - Stanford game, which was a blowout from about the 16-minute remaining mark in the second half. Meanwhile, the other three games are at least closer than 10, and there were a couple of potential upsets brewing. However, we don't switch over until the Miss. St - Stanford game is at a margin of 20+ and there's only a minute left in Bucknell / Kansas.

    That being said, fantastic job by Bucknell. Who would've thought that a hook would be the winning shot?


Ugh, the same thing happened to me. During the first wave of games, with Duke up twenty with under ten minutes remaining, they jept us there instead of going to the end of any of the other three games that were all one possession. They showed the last minute of Syracuse-Vermont and then didn't even go back for ANY of Overtime. Then in the second set of games, they stayed at Georgia Tech-George Washington and only showed a minute of Bucknell-Kansas and none of Michigan State-Old Dominion.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
Bruce Weber has to have gotten a good laugh out of all this. Smooth move there Bill. Way to leave the #1 team in the country so that you can lead your new team to a 1st round choke.



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Kansas has to be the biggest bunch of choking dogs in the history of NCAA basketball. EVERY FREAKING YEAR they lose a game in the tournament that they have no business losing. Maybe there's something in the water.
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    Originally posted by Crimedog
    Kansas has to be the biggest bunch of choking dogs in the history of NCAA basketball. EVERY FREAKING YEAR they lose a game in the tournament that they have no business losing. Maybe there's something in the water.
That doesn't make much sense, since Kansas was in back to back Final Fours in 02-03 and were an overtime loss away from making it three in a row in 04. But that aside, Illini fans need to get over themselves already. Illinois is not anywhere near the prestige level of the Big 4 (Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina), so it's time to stop acting like it’s such a crime that Bill Self would dare to leave. And if Bruce Weber is laughing about anything, he’ll stop the minute he takes a look at his incoming classes now that Self isn’t doing the recruiting anymore.
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"But that aside, Illini fans need to get over themselves already. Illinois is not anywhere near the prestige level of the Big 4 (Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina), so it's time to stop acting like it’s such a crime that Bill Self would dare to leave. And if Bruce Weber is laughing about anything, he’ll stop the minute he takes a look at his incoming classes now that Self isn’t doing the recruiting anymore"

Translation: SQUAWWWWWWWK!

"the Big 4 (Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina)"

Which one of these is not like the others....oh yeah! Kansas! Because they didn't get to the second round!

"That doesn't make much sense, since Kansas was in back to back Final Fours in 02-03 and were an overtime loss away from making it three in a row in 04."

And which one of those teams did Bill Self coach? And how close did he get Kansas this year? AS CLOSE AS WINTHROP.

(Of course I know karma's a bitch and will probably slap Illinois down against Nevada, but this is too much fun to pass up )






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I never said I was cheering for Kansas, I'm just making a point. The hatred Illinois seems to have for Bill Self is dumb, and so is saying Self made a mistake by leaving. In a few years when Kansas is filled with Self's recruits and Illinois is filled with Weber's, there won't even be a conversation on the subject. Kansas fans hating Roy Williams is dumb too, for the most part. If Roy was trying to lure his Kansas recruits to UNC as some people claim, then I can understand being upset about that. But we don't hear half as many Kansas fans still complaning about Roy compared to the way it is with the Illini and Self.


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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.53

"But we don't hear half as many Kansas fans still complaning about Roy compared to the way it is with the Illini and Self."

You haven't been to the phog.net message board lately...

And Illinois fans aren't complaining about Self leaving anymore, they just hate him.

Actually, they're pretty happy the way it all worked out at the moment...


(edited by Eddie Famous on 19.3.05 1613)


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    Originally posted by DirtyLarry
    That doesn't make much sense, since Kansas was in back to back Final Fours in 02-03 and were an overtime loss away from making it three in a row in 04. But that aside, Illini fans need to get over themselves already. Illinois is not anywhere near the prestige level of the Big 4 (Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina), so it's time to stop acting like it’s such a crime that Bill Self would dare to leave. And if Bruce Weber is laughing about anything, he’ll stop the minute he takes a look at his incoming classes now that Self isn’t doing the recruiting anymore.


Gee, that's funny, I don't seem to remember typing anything about Kansas never making it to the Final Four.

I believe what I said was that they lose in the tournament to a team that they have no business losing to. I don't care if two of those losses were in the Final Four. There is no team in recent history _ and only the Fab Five leaps to mind as worse all-time _ that has consistently lost when it counted to inferior teams as much as Kansas. I don't care who they've lost to recently in the tournament. You'd be hard-pressed to find a team that beat them that had MORE talent than Kansas.

As for Bill Self, I don't care if he can out-recruit the Marine Corps. He lost to a 14 seed. Bruce Weber hasn't. So why don't we wait and see what they both do for a couple years before we proclaim Bill Self to be the reincarnation of John Wooden and Bruce Weber the reincarnation of Steve Lavin, okay?
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.25
    Originally posted by Crimedog
    I believe what I said was that they lose in the tournament to a team that they have no business losing to. I don't care if two of those losses were in the Final Four. There is no team in recent history _ and only the Fab Five leaps to mind as worse all-time _ that has consistently lost when it counted to inferior teams as much as Kansas. I don't care who they've lost to recently in the tournament. You'd be hard-pressed to find a team that beat them that had MORE talent than Kansas.





Not holding this year's loss against them, the Fighting Bob Huggins of Cinci have choked consistently against inferior opponents over the last decade.
Wake Forest also has to be put in this territory, as no Final Fours since '62 for a school that had Duncan.
And, slightly off-tangent, watching West Virginia survive Wake, was I the only one who started getting an '87 Providence/'83 NC State'esque vibe from West Virginia?




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.41
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by Crimedog
      I believe what I said was that they lose in the tournament to a team that they have no business losing to. I don't care if two of those losses were in the Final Four. There is no team in recent history _ and only the Fab Five leaps to mind as worse all-time _ that has consistently lost when it counted to inferior teams as much as Kansas. I don't care who they've lost to recently in the tournament. You'd be hard-pressed to find a team that beat them that had MORE talent than Kansas.





    Not holding this year's loss against them, the Fighting Bob Huggins of Cinci have choked consistently against inferior opponents over the last decade.
    Wake Forest also has to be put in this territory, as no Final Fours since '62 for a school that had Duncan.
    And, slightly off-tangent, watching West Virginia survive Wake, was I the only one who started getting an '87 Providence/'83 NC State'esque vibe from West Virginia?







Well, I think having to go through Texas Tech, and then Washington or maybe Louisville bodes well for their chances. That game was a real classic.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Not holding this year's loss against them, the Fighting Bob Huggins of Cinci have choked consistently against inferior opponents over the last decade.
    Wake Forest also has to be put in this territory, as no Final Fours since '62 for a school that had Duncan.
    And, slightly off-tangent, watching West Virginia survive Wake, was I the only one who started getting an '87 Providence/'83 NC State'esque vibe from West Virginia?







Agreed on Cincinnati, although you can throw out 2000 because they probably would have walked away with it all if Kenyon Martin hadn't gotten hurt. And I definitely should add, in four-year chunks, Georgetown with Alonzo Mourning and Dikembe Mutombo and LSU with Shaq, Stanley Roberts and Chris Jackson. However, Kansas has basically choked every year since 1988, so we have a loser.

As for WVU, those boys can play. I'm from near Wheeling and people around there are always telling me "don't count these guys out if they get on a little bit of a roll." I used to laugh.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.22
As a Syracuse alum, the only thing I can say is thank you Bucknell for beating a team seeded higher than mine. Takes some of the sting out that horrific performance the Orange had against UVM.



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The State of Wisconsin is a UW win over Bucknell away from having two teams in the Sweet 16 after UW-M's victory over BC. I think the only other states that still have that possibility are North Carolina (With NC State, UNC, and Duke all playing today) and Kentucky (UK's already in, and Louisville plays today).

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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
Illinois still has SIU (which is playing Ok. St. right now) as a possibility to join U of I in the Sweet 16.



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KANSAS WILL RISE AGAIN. LIKE A PHOENIX FROM THE ASHES.
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Thanks for a great season, Pick of the Week fans...see you next year at Planet Magic in Denmark, WI!

    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    The State of Wisconsin is a UW win over Bucknell away from having two teams in the Sweet 16 after UW-M's victory over BC.


Well, the Badgers took care of business...but then there's this for UWGB ladies' fans. Crap.

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