So, I saw T3 tonight in a special sneak preview. Maybe because it was released in a summer of huge sequels (X2, Matrix, Charlies Angels 2), I didn't think about it much. I went in with low expectations. No Hamilton, no Furlong, and no Cameron made me worry. I am happy to tell you that it was all for naught. T3 may be the best movie of the summer.
There may be spoilers ahead, so be warned...
This movie made me smile from beginning to the extremely dark ending. I was shocked at the end, but completely and totally satisfied. Arnold was awesome as usual in the role he was born to play. His scene where he obtains his clothes this movie was hilarious. Lokannen is easy on the eyes and has the wicked vacant look down. That's all that she needs. Claire Danes takes enough abuse in this movie to obtain several concussions and broken bones, which is my only bad thing about the movie. She sells like RVD.
Nick Stahl surprised me as Connor. He's got the weight of the world on him, knowing that to be a hero and a savior billions of people will have to die first. He pulls this role off well and should be commended.
Seriously, if you had any doubts about this movie, you should see it and make up your mind yourself. I love the first two, and I must say, this one is a worthy addition to the lineage.
Oh, and the heavy machinery chase scene is freaking incredible!
The guy in my local paper just went nuts about it, giving it 4.5 stars out of five. It might be worth seeing after all, even sans Cameron and Linda Hamilton.
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Amen to the above. We had a sneak preview here in Titletown last night, too...worth me going to work on only 3 hours of sleep for. Not the happy ending you might expect, but good enough to please my cynical friends.
And if you read reviews bashing Ah-nuld for a less-than-animated style...for the storyline of this one, it's not only harmless, but necessary.
Two big ol' thumbs up...but then again, I saw Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle right before it, and seriously dug that too. Ah, the disco goodness of Donna Summer, Andy Gibb, and Cameron Diaz production numbers...
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I will say this (also having seen a sneak preview); I was quite surprised by it. It probably helped that I went in expecting nothing, though. I thought the movie was pretty enjoyable (although I do disagree with the "best movie of the summer" label), pretty much what I should have expected. (Although, if a giant magnet works well enough to incapacitate one of those bad-boys, why didn't they try that sooner?) It had some pretty funny moments in it, too.
As for the ending ...depressing, but fun, in its own twisted and sick way. (However, shouldn't there be new generals/commanders/whatever, since the old ones bit the dust?)
However, be warned: the movie I saw before this was Dumb and Dumberer. I might just be working off comparison.
I saw a sneak preview last night also. Best of the summer so far. The sound was incredible, best i have heard in a theatre, especially during the early chase scene. Go see it.
Saw it tonight.....awesome, awesome movie. Not quite the once-in-a-lifetime, revolutionary "holy fucking shit" epic of T2, but still excellent.
And the best part? Kristanna Loken is 23. Have mercy.
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Oliva: You are the weakest link! Goodbye!
Stewie: Ahahaha. Oh God, that's funny. That's really funny. You write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. 'You are the weakest link. Goodbye!' You know I've never heard anyone make that joke before. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference that outside program before. Because that's what she says on the show, right? Hmmm? 'You are the weakest link. Goodbye!' And ye...ye..yet you've taken it and....and used it out of context to insult me in this everyday situation. What a clever, smart girl you must be. To come up with a joke like that all by yourself. Mmmmm...that's so fresh too. Any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. Mmmm? Cuz i'm here God you're so funny!
I read the reviews, I listend to what people said. It didnt stop me. I saw T3. It kicked ass. To all thoes who say Arnold is past his prime go see this movie. He is funny, tough and still after all these years the badest man on the planet. The chick he fights is great in it as well as she is ruthless and amazing in her role. Serriously this has been a movie I have waited for, for 10 years and after all that time it delivered for me. T3 = Best movie of the summer!
Just saw T3. I thought it was great. Arnie dressing up like a gay stripper was funny. Really liked the car chase kind of a GTA the movie. The required T-100 kicking the LAPD's ass was good. The "rise of the machinges" was great. Anytime a chaingun is used is great. Good ending. All around I would give it a 3 stars of 4. The complaints that Ebert and the other critics had were stupid. It's a fucking Arnold Schwaetznager (sp) movie. Of course a lot of shit is going to be blown up. Of course there is going to be a cheasy dialogue. It would be like me watching a Hugh Grant movie and bitching about fact that it revolved around a dumbass brit acting like a douche. It's what AS does.
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Also saw the movie today and my feelings pretty much match everyone else's.
Kristanna Loken is perfect for her role. I just loved that little 'smirk-head tilt' when she worked her magic. Imagine, we could've seen Chyna doing this...
Overall, I rate it 7 Conan's and for fun I'm gonna go through T1 & 2 when I get the chance this week.
I saw it last night. Mercifully it wasn't as bad as I feared. Mea culpa, and all that.
Liked the concept with Connor being osbessed about not leaving a paper trail, but I felt kinda underwhelmed by the T-X--good concept but Kristianna Loken just isn't hot to me, plus it felt like she was trying too hard.
But the action was pretty cool and there were some good ideas in it, even if the story was a bit lacking until the ending.
Now hopefully they won't ruin a promising new beginning with sequel after crappy sequel.
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T3 is a prime example of why people shouldn't form opinions until AFTER they see the movie for themselves. I can't help but think about everyone who was completely panning this movie from the get-go for ever existing. But much to everyone's (including my own) surprise, T3 is one of the best movies in recent memory.
The early chase scene alone is MORE than worth the price of admission. I seriously thought nothing would be able to even touch the chase scene from The Matrix Reloaded, but T3's was simply amazing. It's a must-see!
I think it's safe to say that Arnold's still got it. Bring on Terminator 4!
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I think a fourth one would have to be set during John Connor's actual adulthood, as he's leading the rebel forces alongside Kate. It could be about him finding these Terminators and reprogramming them. I dunno how they'd find a singular villain to top the TX, since that was pretty much the end of the line in terms of overall power.
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You can't forget that Arnold dropped some grim tidbits about what the future holds for John Connor. I won't say what since those would be spoilers, but it's safe to say that those subjects NEED to be explored in T4.
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classic, classic, too bad the people who get off on the matrix 2 didn't like this movie. I mean come on, it's like a spot fest like matrix 2 (ok ok, i know it's not that big on over kill, but it does have it's moments). oh well, great movie, it's no T1, but I feel it's a little better than T2.
A T4 wouldn't be very cool. It would be far too dark. Could you imagine 105 minutes of tanks driving over human skulls? Grubby ass humans hiding in rubble? Plus T3 answered almost all of my questions. Like why is it that John Connor wsa such a threat so soon after Judgement Day. John was supposed to be 13 according to T1, 20 according to T2, and ended up being 25 in T3. So what if his Mom taught him how to make up explosives, use a helicopter, and hack into computers. There would have been thousands with the same skills. It is that John Connor happened to be in a place when the war started that let him take some control from the beggining. Also he had a good sized supply and weapons cache with him and likely a list of several others. Also John did know what was going on and was able to inform others. So people stopped blaming Russia and China sooner and organized against the real threat. Of course the question should be answered of why the evil computer didn't nuke John when he announced his location at the end of the movie. It is beyond belief that the computer wasn't listening to the civil defense stations. I would guess that Skynet was paranoid in 2032 and forbade the TX from talking to the more primitive Skynet.
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I'm thinking that, going along with the whole "hopeful and dark themes intertwined" idea the series seems to have going, a good T4 would involve the resistance force's growth and battle as a subplot, with the primary plot centering around John's attempts to stop his own imminent assassination.
The plot twist being that, this time, they DO stop it--and in doing so invalidate both John and the Terminator's belief that the future is set in stone. Thus, in the face of great hope, we have a prevailing theme of darkness, just as in T3: *could* John have stopped Skynet, was there something more he could've done.
Originally posted by DahakOf course the question should be answered of why the evil computer didn't nuke John when he announced his location at the end of the movie. It is beyond belief that the computer wasn't listening to the civil defense stations.
Do you have any idea where John was at the end of the movie? Let's look at the clues. There was a presidential seal, a podium, several rows of chairs, several tv cameras, most likely a bunch of generators, food supplies, and 50's era communication devices. Oh, and they were holed up in the depths of a fucking mountain. First of all, what good would launching nukes at their location do? That's a military headquarters that was built strictly in case a nuclear war broke out. The machines are powerless to do anything against him while he is buried under all of that steel and rock. Secondly, he wasn't exactly using modern technology when he revealed his location. True, his signal would still be in the airwaves, but I doubt the computers would even think to look for it there.
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Hey Kid Brookly next time use the whole quote. I gave my reason for it right afterward. Actually I know exactly where he was. He announced it over the radio. He was in Crystal Peak (or something like that). Skynet had the entire militaries files downloaded. Skynet (if the TX had told it about John) would have known that he was within a certain radius. It wouldn't be too hard for a computer that is able to process trillions of megabites a second to figure out where he might be or to splits it's awareness. And the TX went there. If the two were in contact (all the TX had to do was put it over the radio) then it would know exactly where John was. I don't know for sure if that a bunker can stop a direct nuke. Cheyene mountain isn't supposed to be able too. Also what is to stop Skynet from just dropping a nuke there every five years? You could theoretically walk out in a tough enough hazmat suit but the ground would be too fucked to drive on. Flying is possible but does either John or Kate know how to use a helicpoter? Or how about just posting just posting 1,000 androids there to kill John Connor? Or telling one of Skynet's sattelites to frag anything in the air over the nuked surrounded mountain? But more importantly what is wrong with my theory? It does explain a lot. I am not saying that John Connor wasn't the "Great Military Leader" that lead humanity to survival. Just that he was young when the war started. Even in T3 he was only about 25. There had to have been some generals or admirals with 100's or 1,000's of soldiers under their direct command. Or just some other human. There were 3 billion left after all. But the bukner theory does give John some very important advantages. A safe base to start. A good sized weapons cache with possibly others in Kate's files. Communications. And most importantly a knowledge of what really happened. Take out the bunker and John has knowledge and some good rebel/guerilla skills. But I don't think that the TX ever talked to Skynet. Use whatever reason like Skynet wsan't fully online yet or it was busy. But I think a probable reason is that Skynet in 2032 was worried about the TX taking over or reprogaming Skynet in 2003. Likely or not just order the TX to not have any contact with Skynet.
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