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#61 Posted on
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#62 Posted on
Mr. Heel 2: You are thinking of the Global Wrestling Federation. I can't remember who he beat, but Horowitz got two wins there. He even cut a promo about it, hocking a fake video tape that covered the wins for only fifty bucks. It was one of the best things the promotion did.

As a side note, GWF was a good first look at Harlem Heat (as the Ebony Express), The Patriot and had a series of matches between Jerry Lynn and The Lightning Kid (Syxx).



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#63 Posted on

    Originally posted by drjayphd

    And how sad is it that the only thing I remember about my first live show is "Jumping" Jim Brunzell?



It's funny though. Jim Brunzell and Greg Gagne were RULING the AWA in Tag action in the early 80s (how sad is THAT?) and then he and B. Brian Blair come to the WWF and become the killer Bs (ie: Jobbers to the stars) Like the only guys they ever beat were even worse tag teams, none of which I can name now.

Hey, one I just thought of but hadn't brought up before. He just passed, but was the tokem big man jobber for a lot of years in Bob Luce's chicago area: Moose Cholak. He won a few, but mostly, he lost to the bad guys. Again, primarily a jobber to the stars, kind of like Crash is today (win's on velocity, loses on Smackdown). Great personality.



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#64 Posted on

    Originally posted by NickBockwinkelFan

      Originally posted by Torchslasher
      Okay, this is already way too many posts without anyone mentioning my favorite jobber.

      This guy looked more like your lecherous uncle at the bowling alley chomping a cigar in-between throwing gutter balls than a wrestler. He was so cool that he had a nickname. Who is this god among men?

      Tom "Rocky" Stone!!!



    Classic post. Tom "Rocky" Stone dominated!

    For those AWA guys (in addition to the already mentioned Jake "The Milkman" Milliman), how about Nacho Berrera, Rooster Griffin and my favorite: Kenny "Sodbuster" Jay!



Oh my God! I haven't heard that name in forever.

While were on the subject of Nick Bockwinkel, I don't know if he qualifies as a jobber but Hogan was dropping matches to Nick left and right towards the end of his AWA tenure.

Granted most of them, Bockwinkel cheated to win, but they never seemed to have a satisfying blow off before Hogan left for bigger and better things.



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#65 Posted on
David Sammartino comes to mind. Tony Altas and Hillbilly Jim as well.



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#66 Posted on

    Originally posted by Dick the Bruiser
    David Sammartino comes to mind. Tony Altas and Hillbilly Jim as well.


But Bruno's kid got nothing but push until Dad got pissed at Vince (I think because David didn't get a strap. And HBJ was Hulk's buddy! He had the shiny boots and everything! More a midcarder than a jobber, imo. Same for Tony Atlas, althought he was closer to the jobber rans, especially after his comeback (didn't he have some african gimick?)



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#67 Posted on
Didn't Hulk Hogan himself give Hillbilly Jim those boots or did Granny give him the boots and Hogan gave him that hat? Plus Hillbilly Jim had his own hillbilly posse! How many jobbers (besides Al Snow) gets their own posse?
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#68 Posted on

    Originally posted by InVerse
    Didn't Hulk Hogan himself give Hillbilly Jim those boots or did Granny give him the boots and Hogan gave him that hat? Plus Hillbilly Jim had his own hillbilly posse! How many jobbers (besides Al Snow) gets their own posse?


Hulk Gave them to him on USA (Sun Morning!) Yep, he had the Posse. Uncle Elmer, Cousin somebody (was it cousin Junior?) Fun stuff.



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#69 Posted on

    Originally posted by cranlsn
    While were on the subject of Nick Bockwinkel, I don't know if he qualifies as a jobber but Hogan was dropping matches to Nick left and right towards the end of his AWA tenure.

    Granted most of them, Bockwinkel cheated to win, but they never seemed to have a satisfying blow off before Hogan left for bigger and better things.



Heenan was managing Bockwinkel at the time, and Heenan and Hogan built up quite an act (which continued into the WWF and WCW). Heenan always interferred and Hogan would load up and nail Heenan with that bolo punch. In those days (late 70's early 80's), Heenan would bump like no one I've seen, doing a complete sommersault after receiving a punch in the face and landing on the concrete. But, Heenan's back/neck injury caught up with him and by the time he reached the WWF his massive bumping days were behind him. Heenan's hatred for Hogan over the years seemed so authentic, but with that old school kayfabe, you were never sure. I look forward to reading his book.

Gagne never wanted to put the belt on Hogan and it destroyed his promotion. He couldn't bring himself to put the strap on a "body builder" (Hell, the last guy to wear the belt other than Bockwinkel or Verne had been Mad Dog Vachon in 1966). They kept teasing the fans month after month and finally Hogan beat Bockwinkel in St.Paul (as chronicled in Hogan's new book). But of course, Hogan was DQ'd for throwing Nick over the top rope earlier in the match and the decision was reversed.

Can you imagine--today guys get thrown over the top rope 5 times a match. It's almost hard to visualize, but one of Bockwinkel's heelish tactics was to lean out of the ring between the ropes so his opponent couldn't lay hands on him--because he was not in the ring! That seems like a thousand years ago stylistically.

Gagne had doubled the ticket prices that night after cancelling the match up the month before, so of course the Minnesota faithful rioted. Verne couldn't understand it. In one night he killed his promotion and almost destroyed the midwest territory. There was no blow off match and Hogan just left for the greener pastures of Rock 'n Wrestling, Brother! Well in no time, Vince McMahon Jr was putting 20,000 in the Rosemont Horizon in Chicago and 18,000 in the Mecca in Milwaukee with Hogan and Mr.T while Verne was running at the Hammond Civic center with Bob Luce promoting for 1,800 Rick Martel and Curt Hennig fans. But soon even those guys split to the WWF as well.





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#70 Posted on

    Originally posted by AWArulz

      Originally posted by InVerse
      Didn't Hulk Hogan himself give Hillbilly Jim those boots or did Granny give him the boots and Hogan gave him that hat? Plus Hillbilly Jim had his own hillbilly posse! How many jobbers (besides Al Snow) gets their own posse?


    Hulk Gave them to him on USA (Sun Morning!) Yep, he had the Posse. Uncle Elmer, Cousin somebody (was it cousin Junior?) Fun stuff.



I seem to recall that it was Cousin Luke. Now HE was definitely a jobber.

Aside: Even though I don't agree with all of these selections, and some of them I've never even heard of, I'm really enjoying all this jobber LOVE.
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#71 Posted on
There were both a Cousin Junior and a Cousin Luke. Junior was the first one, and Luke came along a couple of months later. Luke was on the first live show I ever saw, beating Iron Mike Sharpe.

Tony Atlas' African gimmick was Saba Simba, which was bad enough to qualify for Wrestlecrap. I think it would be polite to refer to it as merely politically incorrect.





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#72 Posted on
I have a great story for you all, so gather around, children....

Back in the early 1990's when I was a youngun, I had never heard of the term "jobber". That didn't come upon me until the mid 1990's when the internet started rearing it's ugly head. So as an 8 year old, I just noticed that there were a bunch of crappy guys with no music or entrance, the "currently in the ring" guys, according to Mike McGurk (sp?) and the others. However, these guys became almost family to me, as I noticed they were the same losers week after week. Iron Mike Sharpe, Reno Riggins, Barry Hardy, etc. My favorite of all, however, was a loser named "Dwayne Gill". I had no idea why the name was so fun to say, but for YEARS me and my sister would call the weekly losers "Dwayne Gill Guys". And it just stuck. Dwayne left and was never heard from for at least 5 years. However, even when the term "jobber" came around, I still called them "Dwayne Gill Guys", just because it was funny and only me and my sis had any idea what that meant. We even wanted to bring a "Dwayne Gill 3:16" sign to Raw during the Austin boom, just so that only we would know what it meant. Then...it happened.

Survivor Series 1998. Vince comes out to announce Mankind's opponent for the first round of the tournament....After a lengthy introduction, me and my sis had no idea who it was...."The man...the myth....DWAYNE GILL." Honest to god, I almost died. It was the biggest mark-out moment in the history of the entire world. I swear. If only you could realize that Dwayne Gill was a household name for my family many years before this happening. For some reason, though, they've changed his name to "Duane", but ah well. The Gillberg thing killed it for me also, and we now refer to "Dwayne Gill Guys" as jobbers. However, that was a great night...Survivor Series 1998 still stands tall as the most shocking personal moment in the history of the WWF.
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#73 Posted on
I loved Disorderly Conduct. Mean Mike and Tuff Tom were the only reasons I watched WCW Saturday Night. I remember marking out when I finally saw them win a match. I forget who it was against.

DC 4 Life!
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#74 Posted on
I remember these pearls of wisdom from "enhancement talents":

-Horowitz wrestling in a minor promotion and chalking up ONE win. From then on, he gave himself a nickname: "the winner".

-Barry O telling a future governor "You're a has been that never was."

-Jake Milliman wrestling in a WWF match against Tito Santana, and being placed in a simple armbar. He screamed "OW, MY ARM HURTS!!!!". Ventura as analyst with the perfectly timed "Well, that's the idea."

-State Patrol Buddy Parker shouting to the camera right before their match against the Nasty Boys: "Im gonna give em tickets for impersonating wrestlers."

-Lanny Poffo during a back stage promo "When you're wrestling me, you're not wrestling cookie monster"

-Iron Mike Sharpe "ARGH!!!!!!!!"



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#75 Posted on

    Originally posted by waffleking
    I loved Disorderly Conduct. Mean Mike and Tuff Tom were the only reasons I watched WCW Saturday Night. I remember marking out when I finally saw them win a match. I forget who it was against.

    DC 4 Life!



I'm watching one of my old tapes right now, and I know that match is on this tape. Disorderly Conduct's victory came in those heady days back in March of 1999. Their opponents were Scott & Steve Armstrong. They did their hangman's neckbreaker/axehandle combo, and Tough Tom got the pin on Steve.







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#76 Posted on
I always liked the team of Duane Gill and Barry Hardy.
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#77 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.87
I'm glad to see the love for Disorderly Conduct. I'd often figured my brother and I were alone in being REALLY high on their talent. Their work on Thunder and Saturday Night was awesome - and despite someone saying earlier they were slow and lumbering they were ANYTHING but. They never got to hit any moves, but they would take anything you could throw at 'em.

I remember one evening watching WCW Saturday Night and seeing Devon Storm and Jaime Howard tear it up. It was great stuff, and I hoped I'd see lots more. Luckily, a few weeks later Storm got picked up on Nitro as Crowbar, and Howard of course is still around today as Jamie Noble.

I got to see the debuts of "Angry" Alan Funk and Kid Romeo in the same evening. It was clear WCW was gonna push the crap out of Romeo and ignore Funk. I still REALLY liked Funk for the Stick Out My Tongue And Give You Thumbs Down. Of course, Funk is now Alan Funk/Bruce (whichever they're going with... I guess we'll find out in the coming weeks) and getting an okay push.

I liked Mark Jindrak being the Evil Basketball Player. I only wish WCW had given him the Harlem Globetrotters whistle music while he spun the basketball on his finger while he came to the ring. THAT would have been wrestling gold.

I'm sure there's more, but that's who I remember off the top of my head as favorites.



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#78 Posted on
If a jobber has ever won a match, can he really be considered a TRUE jobber?



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#79 Posted on

    Originally posted by Dexley's Midnight Jogger
    Mr. Heel 2: You are thinking of the Global Wrestling Federation. I can't remember who he beat, but Horowitz got two wins there. He even cut a promo about it, hocking a fake video tape that covered the wins for only fifty bucks. It was one of the best things the promotion did.
That was Horowitz? Oh geez. That was a great angle though. Thanks for filling in the gaps.



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#80 Posted on
Of course, Steve, Scott and Brad Armstrong should not be forgotten here. It's quite unbelievable that the least talented Armstrong, Road Dogg, got quite a big push while someone like Brad Armstrong got buried.

The Armstrong Curse...that ruled Jobberville!!
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