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Since: 10.12.01
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.28
Pulling this out to a separate thread.

http://www.youtube.com/​watch?​v=WAniQ0L2S3U - fan video of the incident. They've disabled embedding. (sidenote: I know YouTube stats are weird, but this video has "310 views" and 1242 comments.)

A local TV reporter caught up with the fan










Filling out is not filed, and there's no further update. WWE surely tried to make a deal with him to stop that.

Meltzer said TMZ will have a story on this today. Don't see it there now, but they have other wrestlers stories I guess someone cares about.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.70
The kid doing most of the shoving seems like a winner.


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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.95
Clicking on your link doesn't work for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/​​watch?​​v=WAniQ0L2S3U

    Originally posted by me from the Raw thread
    Looks like he was getting jostled around by a couple different guys. We can see him shove away some dude, who then comes back w/ a p. good push from behind on Punk. Then the dude in the black shirt either gets pushed into Punk or feigns getting pushed into him, followed up by a dude in a white shirt (behind black shirt dude) pushing the back of Punk's head, which is what finally set Punk off.

    Ideally, you don't want the wrestlers getting into it physically w/ the fans, but you could make a very good case for Punk defending himself, as he's got people pushing him from behind on the stairs.


(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 9.10.12 1047)


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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.53
Another clip of it from a different angle.







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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
Are we supposed to see injuries in those pictures?
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.28

    The kid doing most of the shoving seems like a winner.


While hitting people is totally wrong, there were so many people in that video I'd be totally okay with hitting.


    Are we supposed to see injuries in those pictures?


The glasses are grievously injured! One lens, forever pushed out in a senseless display of eye-wear bashing.

Back at last year's MITB, security was ready for Punk to jump in the crowd. They weren't lined up to block the crowd off, but they were right behind him. They sure weren't right behind Punk this time. If they're really changing these things at the last second, it might have ended up hurting Punk in a non-creative way for once.

(edited by thecubsfan on 9.10.12 1031)


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.42
That insane crowd + three-hour broadcast + main bad guy running into audience (+ possible beer) = bad mojo.

It's also possible Punk thought he was one of his Twitter followers.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.71
I'm as big a Punk mark as anyone, but there's no excuse for this, seen the video, & Punk was .way. out of line here, Punk makes the first actual "shove" in the video. Before that, all we see is him slapping hands away. The fan has every right to file a police complaint, Punk doesn't just slap him, he then turns around and decks him, I mean what the hell? I know Punk is trying his best to get over as a heel, but this just makes it seem like he's just a bit of a hot headed douche in real life.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.01
It's not letting us embed, but click here and check out this view, four rows away from where it all happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_oOqCkIrAQ

Punk was getting knocked all over hell, and the from Punk's view, sunglass guy pushed him once and then knocked him in the head, that's when he swung. We obviously see sunglass guy get knocked into Punk, but all Punk saw was big obnoxious guy trying to push him around. The kid on the left in the black shirt is the kid on twitter braggin it up.
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Not sure how you can say Punk was "way out of line", seeing as he's standing on steps w/ people pushing him from behind and security nowhere to be found, all while trying to concentrate on the scripted action. Not to be all dramatic-y, but how long would it be before someone shoves him hard enough to throw him off balance and down the steps?



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.72
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Not sure how you can say Punk was "way out of line", seeing as he's standing on steps w/ people pushing him from behind and security nowhere to be found, all while trying to concentrate on the scripted action. Not to be all dramatic-y, but how long would it be before someone shoves him hard enough to throw him off balance and down the steps?


Hopefully long enough for him to just walk a couple steps down so he's away from the 1-2 guys that are shoving him and is now in a new group of fans?
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Not sure how you can say Punk was "way out of line", seeing as he's standing on steps w/ people pushing him from behind and security nowhere to be found, all while trying to concentrate on the scripted action. Not to be all dramatic-y, but how long would it be before someone shoves him hard enough to throw him off balance and down the steps?


I had a thought that's kind of similar but kind of the opposite; If there's one way to turn slight crowd shoving into a full on relatiatory push down the stairs it's to punch someone in the face.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.48
The guy who actually did hit Punk and instigated the incident bragged on Twitter. (pwinsider.com) And he is not too bright. Shocking.

(edited by John Orquiola on 9.10.12 1058)


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.79
I guess I'm old school, but I've always heard you NEVER GET PHYSICAL WITH THE WRESTLERS AT A SHOW. Going to a show is similar to going to a strip club......It's exactly like going to a strip club!
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.35
The real question is how badly it will play in the regular media. This is as good as gold to be used on Linda during the campaign. Her opponent was using old attitude footage. Now, he gets the current world champ beating up a fan while her husband stands idly by without calling security or punishing his employee. I don't see Punk hanging on that belt for long even if he was somewhat justified in his response.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

While Punk may have reacted a couple of milliseconds too fast, I have no problem with what he did ...

Granted, if he'd have swung & hit a kid by mistake, we'd have a whole different situation on our hands.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.70
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    The guy who actually did hit Punk and instigated the incident bragged on Twitter. (pwinsider.com) And he is not too bright. Shocking.

    (edited by John Orquiola on 9.10.12 1058)


Having checked out his twitter and then watched the videos again, it seems that this dude is not bright to the point that he doesn't seem to realize that he can be seen on video having nothing to do with it: based off his pics, he's the teen in the gray UCDavis Wrestling shirt who runs up AFTER Punk punches the guy to stand next to him flash the bull horns. In fact, you can clearly see that he was at least 2 rows in front of the action until it popped off, because when he stands up his back blocks the view in one of the videos.

Quite frankly, this whole thing is starting to make me think that maybe people need to be punched more often (not really. Maybe).

edit: this is not to say he didn't do anything when Punk was going up the stairs, mind.

(edited by CxMorgado on 9.10.12 1543)


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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.48
TMZ story (tmz.com) on Punk incident last night, with WWE statement, some new details, and a new video with a different angle. Plenty of douchebags in the crowd surrounding Punk.

{ Fixed link - Ed. }

(edited by CRZ on 9.10.12 1609)


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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.74
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Plenty of douchebags in the crowd surrounding Punk.


I'd expect a greater sense of decorum from our Dictator's home town denizens. [/Sandow]



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.43
Perhaps a judge can sentence this Twitter guy to be Tammy Sytch's boyfriend for 30 days.



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