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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.46
The strange wave of denial from some circles of the Game of Thrones viewership got a definitive wake up call: Ned is dead. Head on a spike dead.

I would have jumped up out of my chair and freaked the fuck out in delirious joy if Sansa had shoved Joffrey off that bridge. For that split second, I thought she was going to. Even though I knew she wouldn't, I thought she was going to. But good for Sansa that she was defiant, even if she got the shit slapped out of her for it. Sansa is a Stark, after all.


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I was surprised by two things: The show took it much easier on Sansa than George RR Martin ever does in the book. A couple of hard slaps, enough to draw blood, but TV Sansa got off easy compared to book Sansa. Book Sansa got punched in the gut and pummeled by Joffrey's goons. The other thing that surprised me is the Hound's courtesy; TV Hound (Sandor Clegane) is much more gentle than book Hound.


Arya's not the type to care about such things, in light of the horrible tragedy she and her family suffered, but that haircut Yoren gave her is also a hideous tragedy. It's supposed to be, of course, to help disguise her as a boy, but still. Tragedy on top of tragedy.

The naked guy with Cercei was Lancel Lannister, who was Robert's squire and the one who gave Robert all that wine that got him gored by the boar. Lancel is Cercei's cousin, but Cercei bangs him on the side in the absence of her twin brother since he sort of resembles Jaime.

The scene with Grand Maester Pycelle was weird; apparently it was crucial to make time in the final episode of the season to establish that the old man isn't as feeble and Grampa Simpsony with his droning stories than he makes himself out to be. And that he bangs Ros. Very important we see Ros naked again too before the season is wrapped, I suppose.


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The Cercei/Lancel and the Pycelle/Ros scenes were added scenes not in the book.

More importantly, the scene with Catelyn and Jaime where Catelyn learns it was Jaime who pushed Bran out of the tower (but not why) was ported in from season two. And it's only half the scene. The full scene happens towards the end of A Clash of Kings, where a lot of exposition and some surprising turns go down between Catelyn and Jaime. George RR Martin really held onto the "mystery" of Bran's fall all that time before Jaime confessed why he did it (all of the reasons why). In my opinion, the Jaime/Catelyn confrontation was the single best chapter in A Clash of Kings.


As I said last week, the primary duty of the men of the Night's Watch was indeed to stop Jon Snow from doing something stupid. Oathbreaking is the worst thing you can do in Westeros. I loved the Old Bear Mormont calling Snow out on his "midnight ride". "Honor made you run, honor brought you back." "My friends brought me back." "I didn't say it was your honor." Jon Snow screws up a lot, but he learns. Great set up for major Beyond the Wall Action in season two, with the Night's Watch riding out in force to find out what the Wildlings are up to.

I loved the "mutual respect" scene between Varys and Littlefinger. Two unlikely men to rise to important roles to play in the game of thrones.

Tyrion got the greatest attaboy of his life from his father, even if Tywin "has always been a cunt". Tyrion is Acting Hand of the King in season 2. Big promotion for the biggest little man in Westeros. And Shae's coming with him. Oh man, so much good stuff will happen in season 2...

Robb Stark is THE KING IN THE NORTH! THE KING IN THE NORTH!
Robb: "I'll kill them all!"


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Will you, Robb? I wish. If only Game of Thrones were a different type of story, the kind we sometimes wish it were where good does win and evil is punished cleanly and definitively.


Sadly, this is the bitter end of Khal Drogo, whose tenuous claim to life made by death and blood magic by a bitter old crone was ended by his Khaleesi and her pillow. Daenerys' journey has been the greatest of any individual character, when you consider who and what she was when she was sold to Khal Drogo by her brother. And I wasn't sure if they'd go all the way with the crazy ass ending of the book for the show, but they sure did: Daenerys' stepping into that fire and not only emerging Unburnt, not only bare ass nekkid, but with three live dragons, one even suckling her teat.

There be dragons in Westeros!

This was a phenomenal season of television. I've grown to love and become more than mildly obsessed by A Song of Ice and Fire, but the Game of Thrones television show has lived up to all of its potential, and even exceeded it. The show is true to the books, made alterations and additions that only enhanced the story, adding new insights and perspectives on many of the characters, and it was all just excellent, well-acted, beautifully written, and fun.

I can't wait for spring 2012 to have this story continue! Joffrey Baratheon. Stannis Baratheon. Renly Baratheon. Robb Stark. It's A Clash of Kings next year! Who do you like? Who sits the Iron Throne a year from now? Place your bets.

And remember: Winter is Coming.

(edited by John Orquiola on 20.6.11 1308)

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
My goodness, that was fantastic.

I actually really enjoyed the Pycelle scene, and not for Ros' fanny either. Of all the sneaky, back stabbing, conspiring council members, he's gotten the shortest shrift from page to screen. So a scene where he makes sure to let one of Littlefinger's whores know that he's a feeb, and that letting US know that he's got his wits fully about him? Fine by me. And the presence of Ros' fanny didn't hurt. That said, it felt like a scene that got bumped from a prior episode, the way that Bronn/Tyrion whistling scene in the woods was.

When it comes to Sansa, the Hound actually is that "nice" in the books, at least in the scene we saw tonight he was at any rate. I know some people have been down on how far to the back the Hound/Sansa subplot has been shuffled, but I think it's actually been a very subtle way of sowing seeds for what we'll be getting from those two characters in season 2. Can't say I cared for him being in full Kings Guard armor; he makes a very big deal over only adding the white cloak to his own armor in the books, because he's not a knight and refuses to be one, but it makes it clear that Joff gave him a promotion without requiring a scene so it's understandable.

Ser Illyn had pliers ready and waiting. PLIERS!

Any scene with Varys and Littlefinger going at each other is guaranteed awesome at this point. Let's hope they don't overdo it.

Smart move, hiding the face of the 3rd prisoner going to the wall. I don't know how to use spoiler tags (I know, I should by now), but suffice to say it's a major role, so hiding the face until you have an actor for it is smart.

Everything from the Night's Watch riding out on was just chill inducing. A fantastic, fantastic season finale to an incredible first season.

"Here Shaggydog..."


(edited by CxMorgado on 20.6.11 0032)

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.46
I think a weakness of the episode, and it's the same as the book, is that there isn't really an ending or an end point, merely a stop point.

"We're Stopping Here Right Now, See You Next Spring."

The Biggest Moment of the season, Ned's death happened last episode. The finale is aftermath and set up for what's next:

Robb is declared King in the North. Renly and the often-mentioned Stannis Baratheon are out there. Tyrion is (acting) Hand of the King. That monster Joffrey and Cercei are firmly in charge of King's Landing with Sansa as their hostage. Arya is going to try to get back home to Winterfell. The Night's Watch is out in force to finally investigate north of the Wall. Daenerys has come into her own and has DRAGONS.

It's a massive season two cock tease and I'd like it to be Spring 2012 already.

Just for shits and giggles, here's a hilarious video of a reaction to Ned's death last week. As if D'Lo Brown and Kofi Kingston watched Game of Thrones. "Kofi" took it with great aplomb.


(edited by John Orquiola on 20.6.11 0813)

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
Funny video and it shows the power of the characters in this story. The African American community isn't exactly into high fantasy.

Baby dragons bitches! (although I did not notice any teat sucking). I hope they have some money, between this and the nasties behind the wall, I'm thinking they are gonna need it.

-I'm assuming that the prisoner girl hauling Bran around is going to play a significant role. She needs a pretty woman makeover though.

-I don't care if we did get some bare Ros ass, that was negated by Pycelle in a semi see-through gown. *shudder*

-The Hound seems to be heading for a face turn if GoT was as simplistic as wrestling (which it isn't).

-For some reason I like Tywin even though I hate the Lannisters.

-I would be mailing pieces of Jamie back to King's Landing until I got my sisters back if I was Robb.

-Arya likes killing Fat Boys. I'll warn the Human Beat Box.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.98
Those were the saddest cgi dragons I've ever seen and that little clip probably ate up half the budget for the episode. The cgi shot of Ned's head on the spike was bad as well.

Not once did I think Sansa was gonna push Joffrey. I did think she was contemplating jumping herself before Hound stopped her. Sansa isn't smart enough to consider killing Joffrey... the guy she loves and wants to marry... cause she's an idiot.

Varys and Littlefinger remind me of G'kar and Londo from Babylon 5... but neither character should become as important in the this story as those two did in Babylon 5.

That haircut was supposed to make Arya look like a boy? Why didn't he wrap up her small boobs that were showing through the shirt? When she was getting picked on buy the fat kid, they were very noticeable... not that I was looking, just that they were noticeable.

Rob Stark feels like a interim king. I can't see him lasting long in that role because he's so bland and boring. Jon Snow would make a better King, I think.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.46
The Game of Thrones finale hit a series high:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/21/game-of-thrones-finale-ratings/

So much for all the threats of quitting the show because Ned Stark was killed.

I was at my local Barnes and Noble last night (to preorder A Dance With Dragons) and I asked how A Song of Ice and Fire sales are. The books (all of them) are flying off the shelves.

Unlike most television series that go on hiatus, you don't have to be totally denied Westeros while waiting for the show to return. You can (if you read slowly) be sustained the entire year with the (soon to be) 5,000 pages of Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, and Targaryens to read.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    The Game of Thrones finale hit a series high:

    http://insidetv.ew.com/​2011/​06/​21/​game-​of-​thrones-​finale-​ratings/​

    So much for all the threats of quitting the show because Ned Stark was killed.

    I was at my local Barnes and Noble last night (to preorder A Dance With Dragons) and I asked how A Song of Ice and Fire sales are. The books (all of them) are flying off the shelves.

    Unlike most television series that go on hiatus, you don't have to be totally denied Westeros while waiting for the show to return. You can (if you read slowly) be sustained the entire year with the (soon to be) 5,000 pages of Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, and Targaryens to read.

For those who want to do just that:

Game of Thrones 4-book set for $19.77. (The W at Amazon)

Game of Thrones 4-book set (Kindle version) for $29.99.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.15
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    There be dragons in Westeros!

Well, not exactly. But I get your point.


I think my favorite scene of this episode was the conversation between Jon Snow and Mormont. Mormont puts everything in perspective (not just for Snow, but for us) and alludes to the grand scale of this story: screw the Iron Throne, there be White Walkers to deal with.

Q: When will Drogo be as he once was?
A: When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.
Me: Fuck, time travel?



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
    Originally posted by Mr Shh


    Q: When will Drogo be as he once was?
    A: When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.
    Me: Fuck, time travel?


I said, "Soooo...Wednesday?" B^)
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
So now that the season is over, what were your favorite parts?

Also, I realised that as much as he has been talked about, Stannis Baratheon has yet to appear. Everyone seems to speak poorly of him, so I'm expecting him to be either some weirdo or a douche.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.46
    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo
    So now that the season is over, what were your favorite parts?

    Also, I realised that as much as he has been talked about, Stannis Baratheon has yet to appear. Everyone seems to speak poorly of him, so I'm expecting him to be either some weirdo or a douche.


Oh man, Stannis may be a douche but there are far douchier douches in the Seven Kingdoms.

Favorite parts, in no particular order:

"The things I do for love". PUSH

"I'm a girl!"

Tyrion describing his sexcapades before Bron championed him at the Eyrie.

Tyrion slapping Joffrey, followed by...

The Lannisters at breakfast in episode two. The only time we see the three Lannister siblings together.

"I always wanted to be a wizard!"

Daenerys eating the horse heart.

The Golden Crown.

The scene with Robert and Cercei when they described how their marriage was the only thing holding Westeros together. Single best scene in the series so far for me.

Bran's dire wolf Summer mauling the would-be assassin.

Kahl Drogo's Mortal Kombat throat ripping.

Tyrion and Bron whistling in the woods.

Tyrion taking the ax to the head and missing the battle.

The whole scene where Ned was betrayed in the throne room that ended with Littlefinger's dagger at his throat. "I told you not to trust me."

Ned loses his head.

There might be more, but those are the greatest hits that come to mind.

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
Pretty much any scene involving Tyrion or Littlefinger were my favorites.

I hope this get renewed for a 3rd season. Probably my favorite chapter in the series so far is a certain duel near the end of Storm of Swords, and I can't wait to see it.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
I would say that unless something insane happens, we'll be seeing GoT for awhile. It is getting huge ratings.

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.29
Violist Jason Yang covers the Game of Thrones theme. It's pretty great.





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This makes me want to build a caste out of legos.
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I fear that this show, as great as it is, will get the "Deadwood" treatment after next season. After winning a few Emmy's, and building a larger fanbase, high production costs and greed will lead to HBO killing it and promising feature films instead.
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HBO didn't kill "Deadwood" though - David Milch did.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    HBO didn't kill "Deadwood" though - David Milch did.


The rumor I heard was that HBO wanted to throw their resources behind Rome (which, like Deadwood, was really expensive to produce) and gave Milch John from Cincinnati (which me and three other people liked) and the Deadwood two-hour movie option. HBO took John from Cincinnati as a big middle-finger to HBO from Milch (which it probably was, frankly), so that was the end of Deadwood movie as well.

We just watched the entire season of GoT in about two days, and, while I thought it started off a bit slow, it really got great in the last half of the season - and I'm not really a big fantasy fan. I might just have pick up the books.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.29
The creativity and passion for Game of Thrones out there continues to be terrific.

One of my personal favorites, Jaime Lannister, gets a rap:

Damn, It Feels Good To Be A Lannister (youtu.be) (couldn't get it to embed)

Rollin' like a Kingslayer. Awww yea.



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