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Since: 3.5.03
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#901 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.19
I don't get it, are you guys being ironic? I've seen about ten billion of those signs over the years in just about every city I've ever lived in (not St. Louis though, they seemingly don't have any traffic laws).

Green arrow = right of way
Green light but no arrow = yield to oncoming traffic

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#902 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.62
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    Green arrow = right of way
    Green light but no arrow = yield to oncoming traffic



Isn't that pretty standard, though? It seems like the sign is unnecessary, and just muddies the waters.



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#903 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00

I read that as, "When this light is green (no arrow) folks yield to traffic coming in the other direction)," which implies that when the arrow is lit, the traffic in the opposite direction sees a red light.

Here you'd never see a sign like that; the arrow would be flashing to indicate right-of-way when the arrow is lit.
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Since: 9.12.01
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#904 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
It's protected on a green arrow, turn if you can on a green light.

Your reaction possibly explains why they have removed these lights from our town and replaced them with flashing yellow arrows during the "turn if you can" phase.




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#905 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.04
In municipalities where these "protective/permissive" (aka "doghouse") lights have been adopted (which, from the posts I've seen here looks to not be a lot of places in Canada), generally those signs are installed at the same time as the lights to help people figure out just what them new-fangled signals are telling them they can do. It's all about letting people turn left when there's no oncoming traffic instead of sitting there waiting for their protected arrow.

This type seems to be more popular in the cities I've lived in, although I've seen the "flashing arrow" types in some Bay Area cities as well - I've seen flashing RED arrows in Cupertino (cupertino.org) - this REALLY confuses people when different types are mere blocks apart!

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Looks like Oregon is very progressive, signal-wise. I can only think that because these other ones are so prevalent that people here have been "trained" to use them, that's why we haven't seen a phaseout and evolution to your style. (But looking through the PPLT website, there are technical issues to getting them installed and working right as well.) Of course, since that site appears to be five years old, who can say for sure. All *I* know is there's a damn lot of "No right on red" signs STILL in Minneapolis, even after they promised to take most of them down.

Have you heard? I'm a traffic light nut. ;-)



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Since: 26.3.03
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#906 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
Sometimes I wish these signs said, "Hey Dummy! If the arrow is gone, but the light is still green, YOU CAN TURN IF IT'S CLEAR!" (Though I don't know how that would all fit.) I can't tell you how many times I've been stuck behind someone who thinks that if there's no more arrow, then they're not allowed to turn anymore.



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Since: 25.6.03
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#907 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.07
Ahhhhh, I believe I understand now. Yeah, in Michigan we just have the green light w/o sign or arrow and people pretty much understand that you have to yield.

Actually, at most of the intersections in SE Michigan, the left turn signal is separate from the other two (don't see too many of the split signals) and has a green arrow or a blinking red (i.e. stop at light and only proceed when traffic is clear) in addition to red and yellow.
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Since: 2.1.02
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#908 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.28
Read it and weap, fella

    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    There's probably a way that sign makes sense, but I can't think of it.
I think it means "If you have the green arrow, then you have the right-of-way. If you only have the green light (no green arrow), you can still turn left but be sure to yield to on-coming traffic".

Holy crap lookit how many people already answered your question in the time it took me to respond!



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#909 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.48

insert Adam Carolla's "left turn arrow" rant here.



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#910 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    Ahhhhh, I believe I understand now. Yeah, in Michigan we just have the green light w/o sign or arrow and people pretty much understand that you have to yield.

    Actually, at most of the intersections in SE Michigan, the left turn signal is separate from the other two (don't see too many of the split signals) and has a green arrow or a blinking red (i.e. stop at light and only proceed when traffic is clear) in addition to red and yellow.


Ah driving in Michigan. I got my license four years ago now, when my wife was attending Cranbrook Academy of Art in Bloomfield Hills. I ended up making a couple of solo drives there in her how-is-this-thing-still-on-the-road 1990 K-Car a couple of months after getting my license. Woodward Ave and the notion of the "Michigan Left" haunt me to this day...that and the couple of unintentional drives into areas we shouldn't have been, though fortunately we were together and thus able to share the terror.

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#911 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
I have only seen one blinking red left arrow and that was in Frederick, MD getting on I-270 (I don't remember if I was going north or south) but it's just like a flashing red.

Come to a full stop, yield your right of way to on coming traffic, proceed with caution when safe to do so.



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#912 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.48
    Originally posted by tarnish


    Here you'd never see a sign like that; the arrow would be flashing to indicate right-of-way when the arrow is lit.



Now THAT confused the hell out of me the first time I saw it. I wondered if it meant go or if it was yield on left turn. The guy's horn behind me settled my indecisiveness.

You pretty much see the sign above everywhere in the States.



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#913 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.07
I didn't see the light that everyone's talking about, but I do know this. In Winnipeg, they have stoplights that will be red with a green arrow pointing straight up (as in straight ahead). That means go. Red means go. Fuck Winnipeg, man.



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#914 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.09
I know it's not from the same game, but the guy in the foreground looks like he just got hit in the crotch with a slapshot. Which, of course, brings this to mind.



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#915 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32

Happy Earth Day, indeed.

Remember, it takes the same amount of effort to throw something into the garbage than it does to throw it on the ground.

(edited by Oliver on 22.4.08 0206)



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#916 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.95
thanks CRZ! CP3 FOR MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



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#917 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.39
"My birth cry will be the sound of every phone on this planet ringing in unison!"

I really have to Netflix this movie, just to see if it holds up from when I first saw it on VHS about 13 years ago. I mean, beyond the tech stuff itself.

ALSO, the SNES video game based on this and its inferior sequel? Woefully underrated.








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#918 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.99
    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
    "My birth cry will be the sound of every phone on this planet ringing in unison!"

    I really have to Netflix this movie, just to see if it holds up from when I first saw it on VHS about 13 years ago. I mean, beyond the tech stuff itself.



I departed with some well-earned dollars and paid to see this movie in the theater. Yeah, baby.

(edited by Leroy on 25.4.08 0949)



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#919 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.04
Wienerboard!





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#920 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.04
    Originally posted by Alessandro
    Wienerboard!


Those are sausages! (I think)

The funny thing is that's probably not the first thing you check out when you see the full picture...

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(click to enlarge)


That's right...the first thing you notice is REDEYE.

(edited by CRZ on 30.4.08 0910)


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