In StaggerLee's defense, he's a Republican, so of course he likes the Bush. Cue Debbie Downer *wah-wah* trumpet here.
I agree with CubsFan....WWE gets a big publicity boost and Playboy gets a big sales boost whenever a Diva is in the magazine. By putting all their eggs in one basket, isn't this kind of hurting potential future sales? Why not get all of the girls to pose in, say, Maxim or FHM (which would still be very good pub), and save the nudity in Playboy for a later date?
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Originally posted by Big BadWWE gets a big publicity boost
See, I don't get this. Yeah, Playboy splashes "Girls of WWE" on the cover, but how does that help the WWE. Are non-fans going to see the girls and suddenly tune in to WWE programming & start buying PPV's? Not likely. Maybe they buy a divas PPV or DVD, but how often do those get put out? Twice a year, maybe? Sure, Vince can put the new girls in the diva shoots, DVD's, etc., but anyone buying those would have bought them anyway. Seems like the boost to the WWE is pretty negligible, aside from any money that Hef pays the WWE for the shoots.
I am sure Vince gets part of the profit when the issue does well so he makes money off of it. And don't be surprised if indeed a few people do check in because they saw them naked in the magazine. Hell, Torrie's been in there twice, but I enjoy seeing her in hotpants on Smackdown! (That's why I never get the argument of 'why should i watch when she is naked on the web)
Anyways, interesting list, but it does mean at least 6 more months of wannabe Diva bs. I hope for Lita's sake that she doesn't do it. Dunno why but it would be better if she didn't, and obviously the same goes for Molly.
The magazine itself..when reading it I got the impression it would be one of those Special Edition things (hrm..am I revealing too much knowledge here?) like they had a few years back of Sable. 100 page dedicated to one subject. Now *that* would rule!
Originally posted by Big Bad By putting all their eggs in one basket, isn't this kind of hurting potential future sales? Why not get all of the girls to pose in, say, Maxim or FHM (which would still be very good pub), and save the nudity in Playboy for a later date?
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I think they can do this because the career span of a WWE diva is so short. There will soon be a whole new crop of women to exploit.
In fact, my guess is that Trish and Victoria are the only ones from the current diva corps who are still around in three years. Actually, I think either Christy or Stacey also will stay around much longer than necessary, a la Terri Runnels.
Hard to do a special edition with only five women, but now that they have the useless diva search girls around they can fill out a whole mag. I wouldn't be surprised to see them all cut within a year of the release date, which would explain both why they were hired in the first place and why do the special now. The women have some small notoreity, so strike while the iron is hot. That aside, the fact that the Torrie/Sable issue sold well even after both had already posed should be evidence that one nude shoot doesn't kill a woman's marketability.
It it will be the first Playboy I have bought in my 29 years, can't wait for this one!
This would explain why Vinnie Mac has hired all the Diva Search rejects, although the firing of Gail Kim is still a mystery.
If Molly does choose not to do it, could there be an opening for the return of the Right To Censor! That would be great for Stevie Richards! He and Molly would have an instant feud with Victoria and the male that chooses to back her.
Also if Lita choose to do the pictures it could lead to a quickie divorse frome Kane, ending the worst storyline of 2004.
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Originally posted by BigVitoMark The women have some small notoreity, so strike while the iron is hot. That aside, the fact that the Torrie/Sable issue sold well even after both had already posed should be evidence that one nude shoot doesn't kill a woman's marketability.
I'd have to respectfully disagree to an extent and align myself with what JiveSoulBro said a little. Yea, they'd have some marketability, but a spread, in my view, has always been the mark that says that the lady's time is running out.
Torrie is an exception to this, but I remember when she was really hot (over-wise) with the fans when she was in WCW. She was fresh. After people saw her shoot, that mystique about her was gone. She's still over, so that's why she is still around. But if you look at people like Sable and Chyna, after their shoots came out, then you started to hear about "bad/arrogant attitudes" and each of them left relatively shortly after their spreads came out.
Point is, say all these people pose, well, what's left to see then, so to speak? I hate to sound misogynistic, and I am certainly not intending to, but in the WWE's view I guess, what's left for a Diva after you've seen them naked? Not much, especially when you consider that the Division is very small and "in-house."
Again, I don't know. News and events like this I disregard. They're silly. For once, I would agree with the majority of the people on here when I say that I'd rather have them putting money and focus towards things that will make them money in a long-term way (i.e. the wrestling and meaning of the matches/feuds).
Appearing in Playboy doesn't mean they're all going to be fully nude. It might end up like one of those Girls of the Big 10/Pac 10 college issues where some of them are nude, others are topless, others in a bikini, etc.
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All Trish has said is that she didn't want to do it because "it's been done". And she certainly won't do it in a mass of thirty other girls. Lita is also big enough in her field that she deserves better than to be mixed in with a throng of other women. Victoria really stands out as someone who seems head and shoulders above everyone else mentioned as "confirmed" in terms of her value to the company, but she probably isn't attractive enough (to most people anyway) to hold out.
Ivory? Yuck. Who is Maria again?
I dunno, I'd buy it but I feel funny buying nudie books. The old chinese man at the counter always looks at me funny and I end up pretending I meant to grab "action comics".
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Originally posted by The GoonDo you think Swank Magazine will counter with a "Women of NWA-TNA" issue?
I would hunt down a Tracy Brooks pictoral. Drive as far as I'd have to to see that.
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Hey if TNA wasn't so damn family friendly I'm sure Maxim or Stuff would of at least pitched a girls of TNA spread to them by now.
Trinity & Traci = Goodness.
I don't see why Molly wouldn't do this proposed spread. She's done the Diva's pics and she looks incredibly hot in a bikini. If it's tasteful and shows her in an angelic setting and the money is right there is no reason she should turn it down.
Trish is probably holding out for her own spread and at least $2 Million (Thats how much Frank Sinatra said his daughter Nancy was worth for her spread and wouldn't you know thats what Playboy gave her).
Wasn't Lilian confirmed for the next Diva's magazine? Well after those numerous times Austin doused her with Beer this should be something to see.
Amy Webber has done softcore porn before, so this is nothing new to her.
But I would be more then happy with Lita, Victoria, and Dawn Marie in that order.
Look, I don't like either guy involved in that exchange, but that was really, really hypocritical of HHH to drop that line, since (a) HHH is no stranger to the juice, and (b) WWE's "policy" for pushing people drove Masters to that problem.