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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.72
Maybe they should create a new currency value to honor Reagan instead of taking a former president off of a current one?

A $3 dollar bill to honor Reagan? Maybe a $0.75 coin?





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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.36
    Originally posted by Madame Manga
    I think the Post Office has a rule that you have to be dead ten years before you can appear on a stamp.
According to this site (warrensburg.k12.mo.us) while the United States does not consider putting an individual on a stamp sooner than ten years following his or her death, exceptions are made for former Presidents of the United States, each of whom is honored with a memorial stamp on the first birthday following their death.
    Originally posted by BOSsportsfan34
    Maybe they should create a new currency value to honor Reagan instead of taking a former president off of a current one?

    A $3 dollar bill to honor Reagan? Maybe a $0.75 coin?

I'll go further than that. Let's put Reagan on a seven cent nickel. After all, we've been using the five-cent nickel in this country since 1492. Now that's pretty near 100 years daylight saving. Now why not give the seven cent nickel a chance? If that works out, next year we can have an eight cent nickel. Think what that would mean? You could go to a newsstand, buy a three cent newspaper, and get the same nickel back again. One nickel carefully used would last a family a lifetime.[Thank you Groucho Marx (members.tripod.com)]

Somewhat more seriously, as Eddie Famous has already pointed out
    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
    Mrs. Reagan has come out publicly against having her husband on currency, so that scotches that.
So in deference to the former First Lady's wishes, I think it's more appropriate that we think in terms of a more lasting monument; another landmark on the country's atlas, if you will. Besides, Madame Magna could use the work.


(edited by Downtown Bookie on 10.6.04 0144)


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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.78
    Originally posted by DrDirt
    I think the wait ten years thing is good. People are caught in the moment of emotions of a president they liked. Also for many here, the first one they really knew growing up. He was well-liked and had a major impact on politics still felt today but in reality, I am not sure his presidency rises to the level many are giving it. I am not dissing him in any way but to want to raise him to the levels people are currently may be a bit much.


True, Dirt, but for all intents and purposes, Jackson and Grant made it to the 20 and 50 bills respectively, while Jackson was the first president put under sensure, and Grant's administration was awash with scandal and nepotism. That's merely the stuff I remember from U.S. History classes in high school, imagine was a real presidential historian could tell you.

However, you can't argue that Grant and Jackson have rather striking images that give the money a bit more clout. Reagan smiling back at you from a bill would just be silly, and a picture of Reagan straight faced would be hideous.





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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.49
I say put him on the dime. Small profile, not too much design in it, and it would be seen/used by tons of people. A dollar coin is simply unusefull, as experienced by the Susan B and the Sackajoweeeuh coin. (yes I know I butchered the spelling) The only time I ever get a dollar coin is when I am downtown and park in one of the $4 lots and put my $5 bill in, I get one as change. That or on the Metro.

The reason a $2 bill is not really an honor is because nobody uses it. There arent slots in cash registers for them. They get thrown aside or stored away and arent really in circulation.

However when used in strip clubs, $2 bills are handy girls mistake them for either $5 or $20s in the poor lighting. You get more for your money.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
Why do you honor Reagan by putting him on money, but take that honor away from another, equally dead president? Sorry, but I don't put Reagan in the same class as Washington, Hamilton, Lincoln or FDR. Washington needs no explanation. Hamilton is more or less the reason American money is worth anything to begin with. Like them or hate them, Lincoln and Roosevelt oversaw the nation during arguably its two most trying eras. Reagan was President when the USSR collapsed, but the Cold War was already in its dying days when he took over, and didn't deal with anything even close to the levels of Civil War or the greatest economic depression in history followed by WWII.

As for Jackson on the 20, maybe you could consider putting a different President there. Jackson was a firey leader and a dominant personality, and I would say he in Reagan are about equal in historical significance. But the bill just went through a big redesign, not to mention I don't know if Reagan is the right person to consider if you want to make a change. People don't need to do these sorts of things just days after the man died, it is impossible to view him or his place in history objectively.
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.29
Totally unrelated, but how ironic is this:

Wildfire imperils former Reagan ranch (June 6)

Wildfire not expected to threaten Reagan ranch (June 7)

You could see the smoke and smell the ash from my house. And the last fire California had was just after Arnold's election. Hmmmm.......


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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.07
    Originally posted by DrDirt
    I think the wait ten years thing is good. People are caught in the moment of emotions of a president they liked. Also for many here, the first one they really knew growing up. He was well-liked and had a major impact on politics still felt today but in reality, I am not sure his presidency rises to the level many are giving it. I am not dissing him in any way but to want to raise him to the levels people are currently may be a bit much.
You're describing Kennedy again? 1/2 :)



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.49
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Like them or hate them, Lincoln and Roosevelt oversaw the nation during arguably its two most trying eras. Reagan was President when the USSR collapsed, but the Cold War was already in its dying days when he took over, and didn't deal with anything even close to the levels of Civil War or the greatest economic depression in history followed by WWII


I had to look, and seeing that you are 21, I will give you a pass on the "the cold war was in its dying days" statement.

Reagan dealt with double digit inflation, a major recession and a pretty nasty Stock Market collapse while in office. The U.S. economy expanded steadily from late 1982 to July 1990, creating nearly 20 million jobs and triggering a boom in stock markets that carried on until 2000.

Interest rates were as high as 19%. Today they are what? 4%?

His agression with military spending, while putting the US in debt, caused the Soviets to try to keep pace, which eventually basically bankrupted the nation, and brought about the end of communism in Russia and ushered in democracy to the Eastern Bloc nations.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.25
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by DrDirt
      I think the wait ten years thing is good. People are caught in the moment of emotions of a president they liked. Also for many here, the first one they really knew growing up. He was well-liked and had a major impact on politics still felt today but in reality, I am not sure his presidency rises to the level many are giving it. I am not dissing him in any way but to want to raise him to the levels people are currently may be a bit much.
    You're describing Kennedy again? 1/2 :)


Pretty good parallel Zed. The only real difference was living to old age after office vs. cut down in his prime by an assassin. Since alot of Kennedy papers have been released recently and historians have finally tried to objectively rate his term, his cache as President has diminished greatly. The hard question to answer is what will historians thirty to forty years from now think of the Reagan Presidency.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.64
DrDirt: Pretty good parallel Zed. The only real difference was living to old age after office vs. cut down in his prime by an assassin. Since alot of Kennedy papers have been released recently and historians have finally tried to objectively rate his term, his cache as President has diminished greatly. The hard question to answer is what will historians thirty to forty years from now think of the Reagan Presidency.

I imagine historians will look upon him the same way they are now, minus the hoopla. Many will hate him passionately and still blame him for all their self-inflicted ills, many will love him unconditionally, to the point that they can overlook his glaring failures and the rest of us will be thankful that he was around during that time.

StaggerLee: His agression with military spending, while putting the US in debt, caused the Soviets to try to keep pace, which eventually basically bankrupted the nation, and brought about the end of communism in Russia and ushered in democracy to the Eastern Bloc nations.

So, instead of currency, wouldn't it be more appropriate to add Reagan's face to the front of everyone's credit cards? Deficit Spending at it's finest!!!

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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.49
Deficit spending? I thought it was supply side economics!




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