I call bullshit on the 'rib' explanation. They sat down for dinner, had a few drinks, decided to stage a fake fight for the fans outside, but had already cleared it with police before entering the building? And they had set it up days earlier on their websites? That story is pathetic. It sounds like next-day desperation spin when they found out pictures of it were all over the net and they were gonna be called into Good 'Ol JR's office first thing in the morning.
I really miss the Ross Report ... there would have been a great cryptic note about this.
Originally posted by GavintzuI call bullshit on the 'rib' explanation. They sat down for dinner, had a few drinks, decided to stage a fake fight for the fans outside, but had already cleared it with police before entering the building? And they had set it up days earlier on their websites? That story is pathetic. It sounds like next-day desperation spin when they found out pictures of it were all over the net and they were gonna be called into Good 'Ol JR's office first thing in the morning.
I really miss the Ross Report ... there would have been a great cryptic note about this.
I'm with you there. The story has more holes in it than Kane's continuity. If it was a "rib," who's the ribbee? Us Internet smarks? Why go to such lengths to jerk around such a relatively small group of people -- and do these guys strike you as having the brains to plan such an elaborate hoax? Well, maybe Maven, but still ...
"I do have a degree in electrical engineering... from almost 20 years ago. Punchcard systems were just becoming obsolete, we had rotary phones in the dorms, and a modem was still a gizmo the size of a shoebox into which you squooshed the phone receiver itself. In short, we lived like animals.
The instant obsolesence is why I became a writer. The rate of punctuation in a sentence doesn't double every 18 friggin' months, and you never have some 22-year-old looming over your shoulder, shaking his head, saying "dude... you're still using adverbs...?"
Maybe they did it to amuse themselves? I don't think they did it to jerk around any fans who were there, but just as a joke between the three of them. The report that it was a rib came from the website and witnesses who were there, not from Orton et al.
No need to switch browsers just to block popups when you can install any of several popup blockers and block popups in whatever browser you're currently using. (All the program linked on that site are freeware.)
And IE for Windows users can get the Google Toolbar which not only blocks popups but also allows you to search Google without having to go to the actual site.
Oh.. and.. um... struggles to find something to say about the supposed fight ... I bet it was HHH's idea.
Actually, I know quite a few officers who are allowed to use squad cars off-duty. There used to be one who lived right down the street from me. The squad cars (usually at least, I don't know if this is the same everywhere) are one of the perks officers get. They're still city property, but the officers are allowed to use them all the time.
I'm sure it was a rib. Smarks in the Boston area were fairly sure that WWE Superstars would be eating there later that night. That is why all those people had cameras in those pictures. It's easy to see how they would get off fooling all those people. It is Jackassish(The TV Show and Movie).
You Samoans are all the same. You have no faith in the essential decency of the white man's culture.
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon. Need I say more?"
Geez, Rick, lighten up. I live in Tampa, and I see cop cars parked in driveways all over the place. A cop lives in my apartment complex, and he drives his cop car to and from work everyday and parks it here overnight.
I'm sure off-duty use of squad cars is strictly forbidden in some parts of the U.S. But it's not universal. And I know Tampa isn't quite Boston, but it's no Mayberry.
Originally posted by Shem the PenmanThe story has more holes in it than Kane's continuity. If it was a "rib," who's the ribbee?
Us Internet smarks
Us Internet smarks?
Uh.... yes! And possibly for the amusement of the fans that were there.
Why go to such lengths to jerk around such a relatively small group of people
Well I know if I was aware of a group of thousnads of people who spent their time telling anyone who'd listen how shit I was at my job I know I'd get a great deal of pleasure from getting them all wound up over something like this.
Alas the only folks who seem intent on relating my incompetence at work to all and sundry are my employers, so such fun and japes would be ill advised. Crashing on....
and do these guys strike you as having the brains to plan such an elaborate hoax? Well, maybe Maven, but still ...
Well, yes they do. Practical jokes are not the brainchild of the worlds greatest minds. Einstein's theory of relativity is revered as a work of genius the world over, yet I never remember hearing of him leaving a smoked haddock down the back of the radiator at an unsuspecting friends house.
Conversely, Paul 'Gazza' Gascoigne is known to all as a man of very few brain cells, yet the tomfoolery he instigated throughout his soccer career was well known.
One does not need a degree to be mischeivous y'see?
Strangest thing for me in this story is. Mark Jindrak has a website??? LoL. And rib or not, no excuse for wearing those horrible tracksuits in public.
Dave Scherer from 1pop is really becoming the most obnoxious guy on the wrestling net(and that's saying something) he wrote...
-Sometimes WWE is right about the internet’s coverage of their business. I got a bunch of pictures last night from a “confrontation” that took place between Randy Orton and Mark Jindrak at Kowloon’s bar in Boston after Raw. The inference was that they had a fight. So of course, a number of the “usual” newz sites ran (made up?) a story saying that those two were drinking and got into a big fight at the bar and I got bombarded with emails asking if it was true. By the time I went through all of my emails, the same sites had been told that they were worked and later reported it was a rib that Orton and Jindrak were actually working the fans and thus, the sites who “reported” that there was a fight. Argh. Being first with a story is great, but checking it out first is better-
Man get off your high horse dude. These sites got a report saying that happened with PHOTO evidence. I think that's decent enough reason to run with it. I guess a photo of Randy ripped Magic jacket isn't as credible as a report from brother/sister team of Manny & Minnie Backstage that the top sites get all the time... Oh one more thing, the Hot Newz sites admitted that their was a possibility they got worked over and it might have been a rib on the net(even though I don't totally buy that) but whatever. When was the last time 1pops or anywhere else admitted they got something totally wrong!
Gawd I'm defending Hot Newz sites, I think that's a first. And sure they jump on stuff(alot of it total crap)fast, and I don't have that much respect for them but in this case I think any of us would have ran with the story I must say I know I would.
Scherer really has no room to talk in this. Every "news organization" makes mistakes, including his. Perhaps he forget Bret Hart To Lead Invasion, which was originally published without the question mark at the end.
wrestlingDB: Because I was far too lazy to check multiple wrestling news sites.
Originally posted by darkmatcherJust one more reason to not like Randy Orton.
What about Maven and Mark Jindrak? IT WAS A RIB.
I'm aware it was a rib and this still doesn't lessen its childishness.
And yes Jindrak and Maven get no love from me either but I was working off of the post of the guy who quoted "One more reason to like Randy Orton" and his whole "ha ha stupid internet fans got outsmarted" tirade. Who's more pathetic, us, or a couple of big time(well, signed, atleast) superstars with nothing better to do than play a ridiculous joke on some "insider" fans.
I don't think it's an officially recognized WWE rib until Bradshaw shits in somebody's suitcase.
(edited by NickBockwinkelFan on 14.11.03 0046) "Well, you can't involve friendship with business. It has to be one or the other. It's either business or friendship, or hit the bricks!" --Life Lessons from "The Tao of Bobby the Brain Heenan" Uncensored 2000 preview
"As long as the check don't bounce, I guess he's okay with it!" --Former All Pro Giants LB Harry Carson on Bill Parcells joining the hated rival Dallas Cowboys
I've never understood ribs in general. It seems to me to be one of the most utterly retarded phenomena around.
"Oh ha ha ha...shucks...you got me fellas, destroying my personal property like that, and gluing my foreskin shut, and shitting in my open mouth while I slept. Hoo hoo...I've gotta keep my eyes on you!"
Only an unqualified retard gets off on this kind of idiocy. Now Orton/Maven/Jindrak's little deal, work or shoot, (which is still unclear since, while I'm positively erect with admiration for "Wrestle-Zone", I find it hard to believe anyone followed actually followed a squad car to a gas station to watch the celebration) is harmless when compared to some ribs. Still, it's a waste of time, and to assume that the "IWC" is some kind of juicy, welcome target for these kinds of histrionics is a bit of wishful, inflated self-importance on the part of the IWC. I mean do you really think that anyone working for Vince cares what an "internet fan" says, relative to a "regular fan"? It's all the same. WWE has a general disdain for the lot of us.
I cannot wrap my head around what the difference b/n a net fan and a regular is actually predicated on. It's not as if there's thousands of people who had never heard of WWE and just discovered it on the internet and base all their opinions on Dr. Tom's web commentaries. These fans are wrestling fans, discussing wrestling via one communication tool. Do wrestling fans who talk wrestling in person carry the label "the conversation wrestling community"? Are buddies dishing on the latest broadcast reps of the "telephone wrestling community"? No, of course not. They're wrestling fans as a whole, and none of them any different or more relevant than any other sub-division of the whole. Let's stop pretending any one portion is more visible to the professionals, or worthy of their scorn, than another.
And forgive me, but I'm not about to get all..."oh, those green, aimless no-talents really put us in our place, boy-howdy!" When a single one of them puts at least one passable ring performance together, says or does at least one memorable or entertaining thing, then let's talk about them putting us in our place. If they did this as some kind of slap in the face to a diminishing fan base, they're idiots one and all. It's foolish to bite the hand that feeds you. It is our place, as a fan of something, to express an opinion on it if we so desire. And what's more, anyone whose opinion is that Randy Orton sucks has the added blessing of being right, since that also happens to be a fact.
If these gentlemen can't seem to put 1000 asses in a single arena they perform in, the joke's on them.
What do you call Albert Einstein beatin' off? Give up? A stroke of genius!
I have to agree with the 'not a heel turn' reaction - this is no more a heel turn than Ryback hitting Henry with Santino, then dusting Santino off, asking if he's okay, then picking him up and throwing him at Henry. The lovely Mrs.