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wwe.com has posted all of the matches for this year's Survivor Series. This might be the hardest show to predict this year.

The teams are inter-brand (since I guess Bragging Rights is now the exclusive home of brand warfare) and have been delineated by feuds. Still, it seems weird how certain champions are relegated to mere team members.

Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Match: Team Miz: United States Champion The Miz (captain), Jack Swagger, Sheamus, Drew McIntyre, and Dolph Ziggler vs. Team Morrison: Intercontinental Champion John Morrison (captain), Shelton Benjamin, Evan Bourne, Matt Hardy and Finlay.
Prediction: Swagger and Miz not cooperating could be a factor. I'm guessing that angle goes down and lets Team Morrison get the win.

Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Match: Team Mickie: Mickie James (captain), Divas Champion Melina, Eve Torres, Gail Kim, and Kelly Kelly vs. Team Michelle: Women's Champion Michelle McCool (captain), Alicia Fox, Beth Phoenix, Jillian Hall, and Layla.
Prediction: Beth is on the verge of a face turn but if Swagger and Miz get into it, then I figure they'll hold off on turning Beth. I think Beth wins it for Michelle's team but that creates tension between Beth and Michelle.

Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Match: Team Orton: Randy Orton (captain), Ted DiBiase, Cody Rhodes, William Regal, and CM Punk vs. Team Kingston: Kofi Kingston (captain), ECW Champion Christian, Mark Henry, MVP, and R-Truth.
Prediction: The teamwork of Legacy makes be think Team Orton wins, though I would hope Kofi comes out looking strong regardless.

Rey Mysterio vs. Batista: Rey "wins", but is destroyed by an angry Animal.

WWE Championship Triple Threat: John Cena (champion) vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H
Prediction: Cena retains.

World Heayweight Championship Triple Threat: The Undertaker (champion) vs. Unified Tag Team Champion Chris Jericho vs. Unified Tag Team Champion The Big Show
Prediction: Undertaker retains.

Almost every match has the potential for someone turning but they won't pull all those triggers. People are waiting for DX to break up. JeriShow could also break apart. Ted DiBiase turning on Orton could happen. I'm guessing SOMEONE will turn in one of the matches and if forced to make a prediction, I'd say it'll be the breakdown of DX that will make news during the show.
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I'm glad they're doing the traditional Survivor Series matches (I'm still not buying the PPV, but I'm glad they're doing it, regardless).

Team Miz vs. Team Morrison - Actually kind of hard to call. I agree that Swagger and Miz will have some kind of blow-up, but most of Morrison's team is pretty jobbery. I'd say Sheamus and Drew destroy Bourne and Hardy, Finlay pins Drew (to set up a feud), Miz and Swagger end up brawling to the back and Morrison manages to pin Sheamus.
Survivor: Morrison.

Team Mickie vs. Team Michelle - Is it sad that Melina, despite being Diva's champion, can't even captain her own team? I agree about Beth dominating, but can see her walking out on McCool after destroying everyone but Mickie, and letting McCool eat a DDT.
Survivor: Mickie James

Team Orton vs. Team Kofi - Easy chance for Kofi to "beat" Orton outside of a singles match (so Orton can then win in an actualy one-on-one...*sigh*) Nobody else is really meaningful in anyway here, outside of Christian/Regal. Various shenanigans lead to Kofi getting the final pin on Orton
Survivor - Kofi Kingston

I realize now that I have every match having only a sole survivor, which is probably unlikely. Somebody else will make it to the end in something, I'm just not sure who. Maybe Christian w/Kofi or Melina with Mickie.

Rey Mysterio v. Batista - Yeah, Rey wins and Batista snaps and probably powerbombs him through a table or something.

WWE Championship - Cena vs. HBK vs. HHH - Gotta go with Cena retaining here. Seems like kind of a placeholder because Cena has no obvious heel opponents. Anybody think that HBK is kind of mildly teasing heel discontent? His comments about being Robin to HHH's Batman doesn't exactly sound like the old Showstopper.

World Heavyweight Title - Undertaker vs. Big Show vs. Jericho - And I'm going to go out on a limb and pick Jericho. Probably just because I want it so much. Jericho with the world title and the tag titles all at the same time would give him so much material and make him crow so much that it would improve Smackdown by default. Plus, it sets up for Edge coming back at the Rumble *cross fingers*



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
Every year in the modern era that they book Survivors tag matches, I get so happy, and then they're never as good as they should be because they're never long enough. And yet, I am once again so happy for Survivors tag matches. TEAMS. TEEEEEEEEAMS.

Sucks for the Harts and Cryme Tyme that they couldn't make these squads but I'm happy for Evan Bourne. Kofi really should defer his captaining decisions to Christian (the Owen Hart of the new Nation).
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.75
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    TEAMS. TEEEEEEEEAMS.


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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Sucks for the Harts and Cryme Tyme that they couldn't make these squads but I'm happy for Evan Bourne.


Yeah, and unless a change is made, no Maryse. Literally the ONLY thing I remember from last year's Survivor Series is Maryse being the lone member of the Smackdown Divas team and almost upsetting Beth.
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Team Miz over Team Morrison, although even-steven WWE booking would have Morrison getting his win back from Bragging Rights. Survivors: Miz, Sheamus and Swagger.

Team Mickie over Team Michelle. Survivors: Mickie and Melina.

Team Kofi over Team Orton. Survivor: Kofi. I'm going to again predict either a turn from DiBiase or an "accident" that causes Orton to lose.

Batista beats up Mysterio good, and wins.

Cena retains in a Triple Threat match over DX. It'd be nice if HHH or HBK would turn heel, but I don't see it happening, and it may overshadow DiBiase (if he in fact would turn).

Taker also retains. Jericho winning and the break up of JeriShow would be my back-up pick.
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Are they really just calling the teams "Team Surname of Captain"? That's pretty gay. Doesn't anyone remember the VISIONARIES, the DREAM TEAM, and the RUDE BROOD? If you're gonna go PG, you gotta camp it up.

Cena retains, and tension builds with dX. This match is just completely nonsensical if it isn't part of an eventual HBK/HHH feud.

I agree with everything Geemoney said, tbh. I would add that I don't think Rey beating Batista this close to Dave's turn would be good booking, but as long as Batista lays him out in the end, he gets to 'look monster'. Which is hard to do when you base a turn off someone breaking up a pin.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Cena retains, and tension builds with dX. This match is just completely nonsensical if it isn't part of an eventual HBK/HHH feud.


It's just a big match between the three top stars on Raw, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I mean yeah MVP, Swagger, and Miz could've all been brought into top programs by now instead but that's besides this point.


    Doesn't anyone remember the VISIONARIES, the DREAM TEAM, and the RUDE BROOD?


It's Kofi's Choices vs. Randy's Dandies and JoMo Mr. Nice Guys vs. Mizfits In Action.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      It's just a big match between the three top stars on Raw, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.


    Well, there is. They're the only top stars on RAW, and have been for the last four years. Shawn is now cross-eyed and balding, Hunter too is starting to show his age, and Cena has never been less interesting. If you're gonna use the same furniture the least you can do is rearrange it every couple of years.

    I think a Shawn 'turn' could work fine. He is beyond the point where he can ever be a heel, so even if he plays one for a few months as he did last year with Taker, there's no long-term harm done. I would be shocked if they didn't do it, as Shawn has secured the absolute prime, show-stealing spot on every Mania for four out of the last five years now (excluding the lame sideshow with Vince that everyone forgot pretty quickly) and has nothing else on tap.

    (edited by Hogan's My Dad on 9.11.09 1928)


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      It's just a big match between the three top stars on Raw, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.


    Well, there is.


You said 'nonsensical,' though. It makes perfect sense.


    I think a Shawn 'turn' could work fine. ... I would be shocked if they didn't do it


I would be really shocked. Triple H turning on Shawn is possible but I think at this point he'd be hard-pressed to not get cheers too. He's just been around too long, won too much, and doesn't real be a heel anyway. But if Shawn didn't turn heel all the way on Benoit (2004), Hogan (2005), or Cena (2007), it's never going to happen.


    as Shawn has secured the absolute prime, show-stealing spot on every Mania for four out of the last five years now (excluding the lame sideshow with Vince that everyone forgot pretty quickly)


Hey. That match kind of ruled.

(edited by JustinShapiro on 10.11.09 0049)
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
Well, it doesn't have to be "all the way". Just enough for it to be interesting and not overly predictable. I just don't see what else you do with those two guys come Mania. Nothing with Legacy or Orton is going to be big enough for that card, and they haven't left each other's orbit since Shawn came back for Summerslam. Seems to me you have to do some kind of one-on-one match, and the only fresh way to spin it is for Shawn to be the aggressor this time.

(edited by Hogan's My Dad on 9.11.09 2242)


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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    I just don't see what else you do with those two guys come Mania.
Not to fantasy book to excess, but I'd have DX vs. Kane & Undertaker for Wrestlemania. Keeps Hunter and Undertaker out of the title picture(s), plus you'd get a Wrestlemania rematch (of sorts) between Shawn and Undertaker. I think a HHH turn on Shawn would work better than the reverse, but either way, you could do it after DX loses this match.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.80
Team Miz - Morrison gets to eliminate Miz to get his win back from Bragging Rights, but this match will be all Sheamus. He will be put over huge here and get the final win. Maybe be the only survivor

Team Michelle over Team Mickie - Beth Phoenix does a lot of work in this match eliminating the other team to really put her back over as a monster

Team Kofi over Team Orton - Kofi gets an "accidental" pinfall over Orton at the end

Mysterio over Batista via flash pin/rollup or something after getting beat down for several minutes. Then gets beat down some more after the bell

Cena over DX - No reason for him to lose the belt to either HHH or HBK. This seems like a placeholder match for Cena until they figure out what his next feud is going to be since he can't wrestle Orton anymore

Taker over Jerishow - Same as above. No reason to give Big Gold to anybody else at this point, and I think we're going to be segueing in to JeriShow v. DX for the titles after this

It'll be interesting to see where the chips fall for everybody after this PPV as I don't know where Cena or The UT go from here.



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Team Miz vs. Team Morrison (Traditional Survivor Series Match): I will go with Team Morrison on this one. After proving to be the "better man" in the last PPV, I think Miz's team will end up losing.

Team Mickie vs. Team Michelle (Traditional Survivor Series Match): They have a Survivor Series match for this? I am not impressed (then again, last year's Survivor Series was the most disappointing PPV I have seen a long time and sadly, the divas match was the best). Anyway, I will predict the heels to win this one and John's way of putting Michelle McCool and Beth winning despite some tension is a good prediction and is totally plausible.

Team Orton vs. Team Kingston (Traditional Survivor Series Match): This may be the hardest one to predict because Ted DiBiase is on the fringe of turning face and there needs to be a trigger to pull him face and this match could help. However, the team of Kofi, MVP, Mark Henry, Christian, and R-Truth is a pretty solid team and could disrupt Legacy and use that to their advantage. On the other side, I can see Team Orton winning with the element of uncertainty at the end of the match. I will go with Team Orton based on my prediction of the faces (Team Morrison) winning and having the trigger pulled pack further but not all the way for Team Orton.

Batista vs. Rey Mysterio: Batista wins but not as easily as some may think or predict. After the match, Batista beats the heck outta Rey sending him on a stretcher.

John Cena (C) vs. Triple H. vs HBK (WWE Championship): Cena just won the belt and the odds are "stacked against" Cena (we all know what happens when Cena has the odds "against him"). I don't see too much friction between Trips and HBK but to put them back in singles action, there is a slight element of surprise or uncertainty as I mentioned earlier but not enough to cause a lot of commotion.

Undertaker (C) vs. Jericho vs. Big Show (World Heavyweight Title): Undertaker retains but this could be the match where we either see Jerishow break up or a lot closer to it (YES!).

Overall, this looks to be a promising PPV but I have been wrong before.
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And here I was sure that there'd be a brand vs brand SS match where Raw could get its win back. Huh.

Team Morrison. Speaking of getting one's win back.

Team Michelle.

Team Kingston. My guess is that they booked this match planning to put Legacy over, but someone's going to realize that after turning this into a de facto racism angle, they really should book the racists to lose. Meaning they've learned their lesson from the HHH/Booker feud. (Or maybe they knew that lesson all along, but HHH's power trumped everything.) Boy, they've really buried CM Punk, haven't they? They were so close to making him a bankable star, but he's not the type they want to make a star. Randy Orton has a better physique, so they'll make HIM a star. Why "waste" that on someone like Punk, who can only offer superior matches and natural charisma?

Rey. Batista will ultimately win the feud, though.

Cena.

The Smackdown match is the toughest to call. Getting the belt off Taker when he doesn't have to job makes sense, since he can't work that full of a schedule. But they could have done that last month. With Rey and Batista presumably involved in their own thing for a while, it's hard to see where they go for the next challenger with Taker. So I guess they give it to Big Show. He can do rematches with Taker and/or the old feuding-partners thing with Jericho.
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I'll give this one a try; though I've seen one WWE show in the past several months I have still been following the results and stuff.

WWE Championship Match: Y'know, I'm gonna go with Shawn Michaels here, under the logic that he hasn't had a reign with a world title since shortly after his comeback in 2002, and isn't he due for one? Plus it'd set up all kinds of interesting interactions with both Cena (who kinda likes him) and Triple H (his D-X teammate).

World Championship Match: The Undertaker retains. And if he does lose the belt, it'll be because Jericho pins The Big Show. (But more than likely, UT retains).

Batista vs. Mysterio: Batista absolutely annihilates Mysterio. This is a regular singles match, though, right? Perhaps Batista gets himself disqualified.

Team Kofi vs. Team Orton: I'll say that Team Kofi wins here, and Orton gets his heat back with a victory over Kofi at Tables, Ladders and Chairs in December. (And god, what the hell is wrong with the PPV naming convention this year? I hate it.)

Team Morrison vs. Team Miz: Team Miz wins, because Sheamus runs through everything in his path. Speaking of which, have they given up on "future World Champion" Drew McIntyre yet?

Team Mickie vs. Team Michelle: This is a mismatch. Mickie, Melina and Gail Kim on the same team? Team Mickie all the way.



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Cena - though rooting for Shawn.

Taker - though rooting for Jericho.

Batista - I am thinking Rey gets stretched out to continue the feud. He was warned.

Team Kofi - But probably pinning Orton while Orton faces a 2 or 3 on 1 situation.

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Morrison and Evan Bourne survive
Michelle and Beth seems logical here.
Randy and Ted most likely.
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Undertaker and I think this is a pretty obvious pick so we may be looking at world champ Big Show here.



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Team Morrison via even-steven Miz/Morrson booking
Team Michelle via "Piggy" James crying, causing her vision to be impaired and to be pinned
Team Kingston because of the MSG reaction
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Team Morrison over Team Miz, Morrison sole survivor. I can't see Morrison coming up short again twice against Miz when Morrison is by leaps-and-bounds the most main-event-ready upper-midcard guy they have (no one else is even close). Throw in the tension between Miz & Swagger and you've got your booking.

Team Michelle over Team Mickie, Michelle & Beth survive. The story here is the shimmering tension between Michelle & Beth, which is obviously headed towards a Beth face turn and Beth squashing Michelle like a bug for her title. To that end, we'll have a situation where Michelle & Beth end up 4-on-2, only for Beth to single-handedly eliminate the rest of Team Mickie and Michelle to take the credit.

Team Orton over Team Kofi, Orton sole survivor. It'll actually be a pretty even match most of the way through, with the key that being save for Regal, Kofi gets all the eliminations for his team, only to come up just short at the end. The night will be about moral victories for Kofi, but the actual victory over Orton will come in time.

Batista over Rey. Total squash here given that Rey needs time off, Undertaker will need a fresh challenger after beating the tag champs, and there's no reason for Rey to get a silly DQ or countout win when he can legitimately get an actual win when these two inevitably face off again down the road. Batista continues to be supremely motivated by his heel turn.

Both world champs will retain their belts after the challengers in the opposing title match interfere in the match they're not supposed to be involved in. I agree that splits for these two teams are inevitable, and for Jerishow, it'll come as soon as they drop the belts to DX. I still don't think DX breaks up without getting a short tag title reign in given that they've NEVER done it, and like many, I hope that when DX eventually does break up to set up their Wrestlemania match, it's Shawn who turns.



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While the switch from Cena to RVD should alleviate some complaints, the inevitability of the belt's return to Cena (note where Summerslam is this year) and the poor initial showing by the new ECW are enough to keep the indicator where it is for now. The pieces are in place, though, especially on RAW, for improvements to be made to the IWC's psyche in the near future.
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Cena. They will have to lead to DX tension after this match if they hug each other at the next Raw, it would be stupid and kinda gay.

Jericho. Jerishow will continue their dominance even though there will be tension.

Team Morrison. Miz/Swagger will be a fun heel vs heel feud.

Team McCool. Beth will be the lone survivor after beating Mickie due to her weight. I am not kidding either.

Team Kofi. They have pull the trigger now on Kofi, not down the road. Orton is a big enough star to start putting people over.

Batista. He is heading to a major push and losing now will not help that. I hope Rey gets a win here and there to keep the feud going, but not right off the bat.
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