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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.03
"If that's the case, add Shelton Benjamin to the face team & Christian to the heel team ... save the IC title match for another day."

Yeah really yet again. Except that it violates the rule instituted after the '03 Royal Rumble, which dictates that Edge and Christian must never, ever, ever acknowledge one another's existence. At all. Even when they end up on the same show, and even when they're both feuding with Chris Jericho.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.93
This card is begging for the elimation chamber in the Raw main event please, WWE make this happen.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
    Originally posted by The Mighty Mopdecai
    This card is begging for the elimation chamber in the Raw main event please, WWE make this happen.


The Elimation Chamber doesn't yet exist. The ELIMINATION Chamber hasn't been used in a year, and odds are they're going with a 4-on-4 or 5-on-5 main event, since they're pushing Randy Orton as a big singles star (so he'd BE in the E.C. Match...which would be for the title) and it wouldn't make sense to give us HHH/Orton in any way, shape or form if they think that we'll pay to see it at WrestleMania.



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#24 Posted on
I think an Elimination Chamber would only be exciting if we were expecting a title change, like with the two prior. The way Trips has his shiny gold belt now and the lack of real feuds (since Orton is long-term), I wouldn't expect him to drop it to any of the guys on this roster.

And I don't mean "wow, he lost the belt to Benoit, that's a surprise!" I mean "freaking doubtful he'll lose it, and if so...neat."



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.36
UPDATED [WITH SMACKDOWN SPOILERS FOR 11/4/04]!

WWE Championship:
John Layfield [C; w/Orlando Jordan] vs. Booker T

Survivor Series:
Triple H, Batista, Gene Snitsky & Edge [w/Ric Flair] vs. Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit & Maven

Survivor Series:
Eddie Guerrero, The Big Show, Rob Van Dam & mystery partner (John Cena?) vs. Kurt Angle, Luther Reigns, Mark Jindrak & Carlito Caribbean Cool [w/Jesus Aguilera]

Grudge Match:
The Undertaker vs. Heidenreich [w/Paul Heyman]

WWE Intercontinental Championship:
Shelton Benjamin [c] vs. Christian

WWE Cruiserweight Championship:
Spike Dudley [c] vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero vs. Billy Kidman

WWE Women's Championship:
Trish Stratus [c] vs. Lita

That's 3 RAW bouts and 4 Smackdown matches. Assumedly RAW will provide one more match (maybe on Heat?)



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.67
RAW and Smackdown still have one more show (not including the already taped Smackdown) to book matches for S-Series, so it wouldn't neccessarilly have to be booked on Heat. For RAW, I'd guess Flair VS somebody (I think Tajiri might make an interesting opponent for Ric).



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
I don't know if they'll add another match. They have 7 matcehs right now. And, presuming they want to give the elimination matches a healthy amount of time, I'm guessing 7 is just about the limit. They could add Ric Flair v. Tajiri or something, but it seems kinda' like filler. I'd rather they just give the elimination matches, Benjamin/Christian, and the Cruiserweight Title match a lot of time, as I think they could use it.



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.81
Current Card, Updated with Survivor Series & 2004 records. Third number is draws & battle royal losses. An elimination match that your team wins counts as a win for you, regardless of your elimination.

WWE Championship:
John B. Layfield [1-2-1 at Survivor Series; 4-2-1 in 2004]
vs.
Booker T [0-3 at Survivor Series; 1-4-1 in 2004]

Survivor Series:
Triple H [0-5-1 at Survivor Series; 4-3-1 in 2004]
Batista [Survivor Series debut; 3-2 in 2004]
Gene Snitsky [Survivor Series debut; 1-0 in 2004]
Edge [1-3 at Survivor Series; 5-0 in 2004]
vs.
Randy Orton [1-0 at Survivor Series; 5-2-1 in 2004]
Chris Jericho [2-3 at Survivor Series; 3-4-1 in 2004]
Chris Benoit [2-1 at Survivor Series; 8-1 in 2004]
Maven [Survivor Series debut; 2004 debut]

Survivor Series:
Eddie Guerrero [2-1 at Survivor Series; 4-3 in 2004]
The Big Show [4-1 at Survivor Series; 1-2-1 in 2004]
Rob Van Dam [0-3 at Survivor Series; 2-2-1 in 2004]
John Cena {Mystery Partner?} [1-0 at Survivor Series; 5-1-1 in 2004]
vs.
Kurt Angle [3-2 at Survivor Series; 1-3-1 in 2004]
Luther Reigns [Survivor Series debut; 1-1 in 2004]
Mark Jindrak [Survivor Series debut; 0-1 in 2004]
Carlito Caribbean Cool [WWE PPV debut]

Grudge Match:
The Undertaker [9-3 at Survivor Series; 3-2 in 2004]
vs.
Heidenreich [WWE PPV debut...maybe]

WWE Intercontinental Championship:
Christian [2-2 at Survivor Series; 1-2-1 in 2004]
vs.
Shelton Benjamin [Survivor Series debut; 3-2-1 in 2004]

WWE Cruiserweight Championship:
Spike Dudley [0-0-1 at Survivor Series; 2-0-1 in 2004]
Rey Mysterio [0-1 at Survivor Series; 3-4 in 2004]
Chavo Guerrero [1-1-1 at Survivor Series; 3-2 in 2004]
Billy Kidman [0-1-1 at Survivor Series; 1-2 in 2004]

WWE Women's Championship:
Trish Stratus [1-2 at Survivor Series; 3-2 in 2004
vs.
Lita [0-3 at Survivor Series; 0-2 in 2004]

(edited by Freeway420 on 5.11.04 1551)

(edited by Freeway420 on 6.11.04 2323)

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#29 Posted on
    Originally posted by Freeway420
    Current Card, Updated with Survivor Series & 2004 records. Third number is draws & battle royal losses. An elimination match that your team wins counts as a win for you, regardless of your elimination.

    WWE Championship:
    John B. Layfield [0-3-1 at Survivor Series; 4-2-1 in 2004]


JBL should have one Survivor Series win, he was part of Team Angle on last years Survivor Series.

JBL should be [1-2-1]

    Billy Kidman [0-1-1 at Survivor Series; 1-2 in 2004]

Kidman should have one win, he beat Noble in 2002.
He should be [1-0-1]



(edited by Nenz on 5.11.04 2255)
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
    Originally posted by Nenz
      Originally posted by Freeway420
      Current Card, Updated with Survivor Series & 2004 records. Third number is draws & battle royal losses. An elimination match that your team wins counts as a win for you, regardless of your elimination.

      WWE Championship:
      John B. Layfield [0-3-1 at Survivor Series; 4-2-1 in 2004]


    JBL should have one Survivor Series win, he was part of Team Angle on last years Survivor Series.

    JBL should be [1-2-1]

      Billy Kidman [0-1-1 at Survivor Series; 1-2 in 2004]

    Kidman should have one win, he beat Noble in 2002.
    He should be [1-0-1]



    (edited by Nenz on 5.11.04 2255)



How do you rank a win though in that situation? Didn't Bradshaw get eliminated? Wouldn't that still count as a loss?



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#31 Posted on
    Originally posted by TheMASKEDComputerGeek
      Originally posted by Freeway420
      Current Card, Updated with Survivor Series & 2004 records. Third number is draws & battle royal losses. An elimination match that your team wins counts as a win for you, regardless of your elimination.



    How do you rank a win though in that situation? Didn't Bradshaw get eliminated? Wouldn't that still count as a loss?


Freeway420 defined a win in that way. For an elimination match, if your team wins, then you get a win regardless of whether or not you are eliminated.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.69
so the 4th on Eddie's team will be Cena?
Seems to be the only top line SD out there.

prediction on the last match: Should be the SD Title, but neither guy is y'know, over.

But the Raw match has a serious lack of juice.
fuck it, let Trish headline, she's out charisma-ing all of them

I totally just made up charisma-ing.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
Does anyone have a clue why Ric Flair got the shaft in favor of Gene Snitzky for the Raw SS match? My guess is taht it's an angle that leads to Flair turning, but I don't see why he shouldn't be in this match. And just to clarify, WWE does know that Gene Snitzky is really, really bad, right? I mean they don't actually think that he's up to the caliber of any of the other seven guys in the match do they?
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.81
    Originally posted by BigSteve
    Does anyone have a clue why Ric Flair got the shaft in favor of Gene Snitzky for the Raw SS match? My guess is taht it's an angle that leads to Flair turning, but I don't see why he shouldn't be in this match. And just to clarify, WWE does know that Gene Snitzky is really, really bad, right? I mean they don't actually think that he's up to the caliber of any of the other seven guys in the match do they?


Ric Flair is in his 50s, AT LEAST. Gene Snitsky is younger, and possibly getting more legit heel heat. On the face side you've got 3 former World Champions, plus Maven. On the heel side, you've got the top heel/champion (HHH), his back-up (Batista), Bischoff's back-up (Snitsky) and the recently-turned Edge. How the heck would Flair fit in? Would you rather see Snitsky stink up his very own match, or just see him take a fall in a bigger match where he has less impact?



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.02
"anyone have a clue why Ric Flair got the shaft in favor of Gene Snitzky for the Raw SS match?"

WON says Vince decided to replace Flair with Snitsky because "he believed it made it a more interesting match." Vince also nixed Triple H's idea of doing the Wargames-style match. Big ups to Vince on both.
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.42
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    so the 4th on Eddie's team will be Cena?
    Seems to be the only top line SD out there.

    prediction on the last match: Should be the SD Title, but neither guy is y'know, over.

    But the Raw match has a serious lack of juice.
    fuck it, let Trish headline, she's out charisma-ing all of them

    I totally just made up charisma-ing.


It was pretty obvious when Carlito was chosen for the heel team that Cena was going to be picked for the face team. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I can't see another possibility.
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.48
Surprising absolutely nobody, John Cena was named Eddie's 4th man on Smackdown.

And on that note, some FUN FACTS about SURVIVOR SERIES!
-The WWE Championship has changed hands at Survivor Series in 1991, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 & 2002.
-The Intercontinental Championship changed hands at Survivor Series in 1997 & 2001
-Champions this time last year: Goldberg [RAW World], Dudley Boyz [RAW Tag], Rob Van Dam [IC], Molly Holly [Women's] Brock Lesnar [SD World], The Bashams [SD Tag], The Big Show [US] & Tajiri [CW]



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