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I'll grant that I'm not 100% familiar with the source material, but I'm fairly certain that The Elite in the comics were heroes that used lethal force, which made them such interesting foils for Superman. At their core, they were GOOD GUYS (or at least BELIEVED they were the good guys) who clashed with Superman on a philosophical level, on top of a physical level.

So it was a little disheartening to watch this DVD adaptation and find that they basically made The Elite criminals that had their records wiped. Turning them into bad guys takes a lot of punch out of the philosophical debates that this story brings up.

This movie does give it a go, though. It portrays a Superman pushed to the brink of his moral limit and shows just how scary the idea of a superpowered being without a moral compass can be. The fight scenes weren't too bad, either.

I always go into these movies thinking it's the last reprisal of a classic JLU voice. Having said that, if this is George Newbern's last turn voicing Big Blue, it was a damn good one. He turned in a fine performance.




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The Elite were a DCU analog of Wildstorm's Authority, the aggressive Ellis/Millar heroes.

My memory of that comic story is that Superman -- representing truth, justice and the American way as never before -- wins by lying.

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I thought the movie was okay. (backofthehead.com) I also thought the comic that it was based on, which I'd heard good things about and read digitally last week for 99 cents, was also okay.

I totally agree with It's False that The Elite spinning so far down the side of totalitarian homicidal manics took the punch out of their arguments of superheroes using lethal force as acceptable and necessary vs. Superman's "Back to jail you go, evildoer" methodology.

Also, this movie was a bit more risque than usual. Dialogue outright talking about Pam "doing it" with Superman, lusting after him, and Black telling her to "keep it in her pants". Not complaining - except that Pam is gross - but just pointing it out. Material not suitable for the youngest of viewers.

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I concur (having said as much in the other thread...) Of course, this is probably one of those cases where the more you stare at the picture, the more your mind starts to make them look alike. But I'm thinking the females look the most alike.
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