Well, for all those who were disappointed that Josh Harnett and the guy from "Dude, Where's My Car" both failed to be cast as the Man Of Steel, you'll be pleased to know that WB are still commited to getting top quality actors to play parts in their top franchises. The part of Jimmy Olsen has been offered to.... the little bitch from N'Sync who thinks he's 'street' because he can moonwalk and The Neptunes did that song for him. Inspired.
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Originally posted by GrimisI'm sure Bruce Campbell is still available...
...come to think of it that would be pretty cool.
Somebody in the NJ Star Ledger wrote an article about Bruce playing Superman a few years ago. It was before they went online though, so I don't have a link. And yes, it is a cool idea. But it seems obvious they're going for someone younger.
Not only was Nick Cage going to be Superman, they were all set to begin shooting with Pittsburgh acting as Metropolis. They even closed down a courtyard downtown building some set, but one day everything just... stopped.
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Originally posted by DrOpI personally think Dean Cain has been the best Superman since Reeves, although I'm sure there are some current actors who I can't quite think of right now that would do well.
I agree, actually. he wasn't stellar, but was a solid Superman.
I don't think anyone currently acting could play Superman correctly. No one in Hollywood today has the innocent demeanor or looks to make a convincing Supes. With all the focus on action heroes being stubbly badasses and dramatic actors as neurotics, heartless bastards or straight up psychos, there doesn't seem to be a place in the movies today for somebody like Christopher Reeve. They've effectively weeded out all of the actors who can convincingly play someone totally selfless and lacking in ulterior motives, like Superman. There just isn't any call for it these days, i guess, and that's kind of sad.
Screw the Superman movie, and just give me 'Kingdom Come'. And yes, Bruce Campbell is much more Captain Marvel than Supes.
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Originally posted by DrOpI personally think Dean Cain has been the best Superman since Reeves.
Christopher Reeve or George Reeves? (You know: 1950s TV series...started out black-and-white...killed self)
My $0.02 worth: Cain was excellent as Clark Kent in Lois and Clark. For a Superman show essentially centered on the relationship between a human woman and a superpowered alien male living as a human, Cain and Teri Hatcher (mmm...Teri Hatcher) pulled that off extremely well. But in the Superman portions of the show...let's face it, Cain was as lame as his career in the Buffalo Bills' secondary. He came off as a wuss of a Superman.
As for a new one: the theory put out there by Richard Donner (the director of Superman and parts of Superman II) on the DVD still holds true: the movie falls apart if you don't believe Superman can fly. If a Robert Redford or some other recognizable celebrity dons the cape and tights, you'll say to yourself on some level, "Oh come on, so-and-so can't REALLY fly." The suspension of disbelief just doesn't work (even for us jaded wrestling fans.) Hence, the movie flops. That's why you need an unknown actor to play the Man of Steel...just like Reeve was unknown prior to 1980.
That said, I am awaiting Hollywood's latest treatment of the greatest American mythology ever. But I'll probably still walk out of the theater muttering "Chris Reeve did it better."
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A new Superman movie is a lost cause. I don't think we are going to see this new piece of crap anytime soon. Burton and co. got pretty close to starting production on it a few years ago, but of course a little movie called Batman and Robin probably gave WB some cold feet. The talent isn't on this project. WB owns DC comics, and DC has absolutely no creative control over the way WB will shit on their property unlike Marvel Studios. Just about every name attached to or rumored to this new project is totally wrong. Jon Peters? Jerry Bruckheimer? Jonathan fricking Frakes? Michael Bay? JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE?! MCG?! Enough is enough. WB can't even cast the lead role. And who are they desperately trying to get to play Superman, JOSH HARTNETT! You guys want a good Superman movie? Rent the one directed by Richard Donner starring Chris Reeve. I know a lot people complain about the second half, but its not going to get better than Superman one. That's the tip of the iceberg baby.
Let's see if the quickly growing even in more debt AOL/TW will dump another 200 million dollars plus into a new Superman movie after the results of the disaster that is the 266 million dollar TERMINATOR 3.
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Isn't the obvious choice the guy that plays young Clark Kent on Smallville?
Normally I'd be rolling my eyes about Timberlake, but a) this movie may never be made anyway, and b) I recently heard that Timberlake dressed up in a costume for a Flaming Lips concert, which gives him some points in my book.
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I also agree that the two best Supermans out there right now are indeed Dean Cain and Tom Welling (Smallville Clark Kent) the only problems are.. A) Even though they want younger than Bruce Campbell I would think that Tom Welling might be too much younger than they want. Although he doesn't look any younger than Hartnett if he really was considered at some time. B) I agree with the Thrill, Dean Cain great Clark Kent, sucky Superman. I felt the same way about Tobey Maguire. Great Peter Parker, but i just can't believe someone that dweeby will always be known as Spiderman. I think that's the hardest problem about casting someone in these parts, finding someone who can play both identities.
Originally posted by QuezzyI felt the same way about Tobey Maguire. Great Peter Parker, but i just can't believe someone that dweeby will always be known as Spiderman. I think that's the hardest problem about casting someone in these parts, finding someone who can play both identities.
I think there's a big difference there. Peter Parker is a dweeb. Spider-Man is a dweeb with superpowers in red and blue longjohns. Superman, as Clark Kent, exaggerates his dweebiness so that no one will ever suspect his secret identity. He isn't naturally a tool, whereas Parker is. Superman works in the same way Batman does, where Bruce Wayne plays up his vapid playboy image as a front, Clark Kent acts like a klutzy goofball. Both of them are different people when they're in their tights, and they are the two superheroes you DO NOT want to fuck with. Spider-Man is still a goof, even in his tights.
The powers make the man with Spidey. With Superman, his immense willpower and total devotion to doing the right thing are as great as his powers.
I personally would prefer not to see another Superman movie, as I don't think it could top the first Christopher Reeves outing (even though I think the "turning back time" bit at the end was a cop-out). If they do have to make a new one, I'd like to see a Superman that's thirty or so, not the sprout they have on Smallville. That kid would be okay for a Superboy movie, but if he gets to play the big man himself, I'll be livid.
Jaguar- I don't think Kingdom Come would translate well to the screen, as it is strictly aimed at longtime comics fans with it's vast cast of characters. Joe Blow the Bruckheimer fan wouldn't appreciate all of the interrelations between the characters. For us, the interaction between Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman was pure gold, but to the non-comic fan it wouldn't have the same weight.
I do, however, want to see Bruce Campbell as Captain Marvel. Ash meets Big Red. That would be a mark-out moment for the ages.
1. I would assume as his younger days from going to Smallville to Metropolis. Its a good start, but its been done. The Superman Lives thing was supposed to start with the origin as a flashback and then go straight into Superman vs. Doomsday.
2. Batman was supposed to give the eulogy after Superman fell in Superman Lives. It was a really great scene of having Batman come out of the darkness in the middle of everyone give his speech and go back into the shadow. Of course, if you have watched Kevin Smith on campus DVD, you know the real problems with doing a Superman movie.
Wintuition was fine by me... although I do feel kinda embarrassed that I didn't know the permanent members of the security council. I'm sure this show will make all of its viewers feel stupid at one point or another.