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Since: 28.2.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
Last week, I tweeted, jokingly:




Superior Spider-Man #1 is out and it was pretty good. Doc Ock is a huge dick struggling with the confusion of cops appreciating his superheroic efforts and the foreign desire to do good. And yet, he's a huge dick. Everyone, Mary Jane in particular, is oblivious to Peter Parker's complete change of attitude, behavior, and speech patterns. But I also like the changes Ock made to Spider-Man, his new weapons, and the tactical stuff he does that Peter Parker, a more traditional charge headlong in kind of superhero, didn't often do.

But here's the spoiler:


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Peter Parker is dead, but he's not dead. He's a Force Ghost hanging around Doc Ock and he can stay his hand and keep him from killing without Ock realizing he's there. So there's your out. Peter of course will be back in mortal form, and he hasn't left the book. It's kind of like a Professor Stein/Ronnie Raymond Firestorm deal except Ock doesn't know Peter is there.


So far, I dig Superior Spider-Man. And...






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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.21
You'd think that Peter/Ock would have a much cooler ear device than that douchey headset he wore to dinner with MJ.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.24
It is worse than I thought.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
As much as I wanted to enjoy this issue the end really ruined it for me...I thought that they would at least hold back a little bit and build some suspense with this; but no, already a cop out.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.88
    Originally posted by lotjx
    It is worse than I thought.


What exactly is worse than you thought?

While I see Bubbles' point about them blowing the "Peter is there in spirit" thing too soon (they could've easily have Doc make the noble decisions without telling us why) I found nothing else wrong with the story.

In fact, Doc/Spidey's methods and attitude made a lot of sense. Both the fact that he used more advanced technology than Peter would think of using and the way he acted towards people.

I'm sure people will catch on to his changed attitude sooner than later (there was already some future covers & storylines that hinted at this) at which time it'll be more interesting.

But yes, I do hope we don't get force ghost Pete every issue. It's not required for us to know what's going on.




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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by dMp
      Originally posted by lotjx
      It is worse than I thought.


    What exactly is worse than you thought?


lotjx did read it, right? I thought it was good comics. And I also I think holding off the Force Ghost Peter reveal would have been better storytelling, but I get the reasons why Slott pulled that trigger immediately. (newsarama.com)



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
The new(The superior adventures of the) Avenging spider-man came out today. A good fun read; Ock trying (and mostly failing) at playing nice with the X-men.
At this point Avenging seems to be doing a better job of balancing Ock's old and new direction than Superior.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
Avenging Spider-Man and Daredevil were both really, really good for Superior Spidey's encounters with the X-Men and Daredevil. Both Daredevil and Wolverine sensed something was off. Hell, so did Iceman. Superior Spidey vs. Wolverine was worth the price of admission.


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And I didn't even realize until after the fact, was that the Peter Parker Force Ghost was nowhere to be found.


Are we still spoilering that? I wasn't sure. Better to be safe than yelled at.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.89
The encounter with the X-men was great.
And let's face it, he did what Peter probably wanted to do years ago, based on how those two can bicker (often jokingly but stil...)





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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
So, the whole wolverine got me thinking about past fights Parker had with wolverine; such as throwing through the "unbreakable" windows of avengers tower from very high up.

Then I started wondering?

Does Ock Spider remember that fight?

Does Ock have access to Peters pre- brand new day memories; or does he have some Mephisto created version of that timeline? Or even, is that just a blank area?
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
You're over thinking it. Otto has whatever memories for whatever story they want to tell. Otherwise, best not to worry about that sort of stuff.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.24
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    You're over thinking it. Otto has whatever memories for whatever story they want to tell. Otherwise, best not to worry about that sort of stuff.
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I think ignoring Slott on Spiderman is not hard for a lot of fans. I think after reading it and listening to Talking Comics that Peter showing up at the of Superior had calmed some fears and made for a poor book. Creepy Ock nailing MJ is basically rape.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.40
Granted, I haven't read the books this week, but I'd imagine Ghost Peter Parker would be able to do something to stop Doc Oc from banging MJ. Can't ghosts move stuff around and stuff?

EDIT: I feel so retarded talking about this. I am willing to give the storyline a chance though. But I admit it's stupid.

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.89
Personally, I don't think ghost Peter actually is there, hanging next to Doc, despite how they showed it at the end of 700.
Also, despite how it looked, I don't believe he was able to physically restrain him.

It's simply Peter's side of the thoughts & memories acting up and making Doc change his mind.
Most of the times Doc will be in charge, and accessing memories that help him keep up the charade ("oh yes, I am friends with the X-men. Must play nice.") but sometimes Peter will drop in, making him do the right thing. ("Must not kill." and eventually probably "No! Don't touch MJ!")




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