Superior Spider-Man #1 is out and it was pretty good. Doc Ock is a huge dick struggling with the confusion of cops appreciating his superheroic efforts and the foreign desire to do good. And yet, he's a huge dick. Everyone, Mary Jane in particular, is oblivious to Peter Parker's complete change of attitude, behavior, and speech patterns. But I also like the changes Ock made to Spider-Man, his new weapons, and the tactical stuff he does that Peter Parker, a more traditional charge headlong in kind of superhero, didn't often do.
But here's the spoiler:
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Peter Parker is dead, but he's not dead. He's a Force Ghost hanging around Doc Ock and he can stay his hand and keep him from killing without Ock realizing he's there. So there's your out. Peter of course will be back in mortal form, and he hasn't left the book. It's kind of like a Professor Stein/Ronnie Raymond Firestorm deal except Ock doesn't know Peter is there.
So far, I dig Superior Spider-Man. And...
Hm. I may start altering my own speech patterns to reflect Superior Spider-Man. "Dolts! Would you expect anything less fromme?" @danslott
Originally posted by lotjxIt is worse than I thought.
What exactly is worse than you thought?
While I see Bubbles' point about them blowing the "Peter is there in spirit" thing too soon (they could've easily have Doc make the noble decisions without telling us why) I found nothing else wrong with the story.
In fact, Doc/Spidey's methods and attitude made a lot of sense. Both the fact that he used more advanced technology than Peter would think of using and the way he acted towards people.
I'm sure people will catch on to his changed attitude sooner than later (there was already some future covers & storylines that hinted at this) at which time it'll be more interesting.
But yes, I do hope we don't get force ghost Pete every issue. It's not required for us to know what's going on.
The new(The superior adventures of the) Avenging spider-man came out today. A good fun read; Ock trying (and mostly failing) at playing nice with the X-men. At this point Avenging seems to be doing a better job of balancing Ock's old and new direction than Superior.
Avenging Spider-Man and Daredevil were both really, really good for Superior Spidey's encounters with the X-Men and Daredevil. Both Daredevil and Wolverine sensed something was off. Hell, so did Iceman. Superior Spidey vs. Wolverine was worth the price of admission.
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And I didn't even realize until after the fact, was that the Peter Parker Force Ghost was nowhere to be found.
Are we still spoilering that? I wasn't sure. Better to be safe than yelled at.
Originally posted by John OrquiolaYou're over thinking it. Otto has whatever memories for whatever story they want to tell. Otherwise, best not to worry about that sort of stuff.
I think ignoring Slott on Spiderman is not hard for a lot of fans. I think after reading it and listening to Talking Comics that Peter showing up at the of Superior had calmed some fears and made for a poor book. Creepy Ock nailing MJ is basically rape.
The Wee Baby Sheamus.Twitter: @realjoecarfley its a bit more toned down there. A bit.
Personally, I don't think ghost Peter actually is there, hanging next to Doc, despite how they showed it at the end of 700. Also, despite how it looked, I don't believe he was able to physically restrain him.
It's simply Peter's side of the thoughts & memories acting up and making Doc change his mind. Most of the times Doc will be in charge, and accessing memories that help him keep up the charade ("oh yes, I am friends with the X-men. Must play nice.") but sometimes Peter will drop in, making him do the right thing. ("Must not kill." and eventually probably "No! Don't touch MJ!")
Man, I can't disagree any harder with you guys. I thought Morison's X-Men was the worst I've ever read. I though all his characterizations were way off base, and he never really found any of the characters' voices.