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Mike Johnson over at PWI has posted in an audio report that the Raw Main Events for Summerslam will be HHH vs Eugene, and Randy Orton GOING OVER Benoit for the Championship. Makes ya wonder: A - Could it be true?, and B- Whre does he get his info?




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It would be a shocker I guess if Orton won the title but he is hot right now and it may be the best way to set up Orton as a main event player at WM21.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
Makes sense, if Orton is gonna' be headlining WrestleMania with Hunter, like Meltzer is reporting. However, these things can change 5 times in one week, so who knows?

I'd rather have Hunter v. Edge at SummerSlam. While I've been liking the Eugene gimmick and storyline, I don't know how much interest I have in paying 35 bucks to see him wrestle. Still, you have to feel good for Nick Dinsmore. Who'd have ever thought that he'd be in one of the main-event matches at SummerSlam?



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Orton isn't anywhere close to being ready to hold the title. Besides, that gives them only 2 weeks to set up Benoit/Orton. They're going to book a big title change that soon after the big Iron Man match this Monday, with that little build up? Sounds like BS.

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 23.7.04 2242)


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You know what would be the most amazing thing about this, though? Two consecutive Raw champions who AREN'T Triple H! Plus, if this is true, and Orton wins the title and keeps it til WrestleMania, than HHH will have been without the title for over a year! OMG!



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I thought that the plan was for them to wait until WM XXI to have a face Orton take the title from a heel Triple H. But if they do this, it would be great, because the only other heel worthy of taking the title from benoit is HHH and I definately don't want to see him get the title to be a 57 time world champion.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.88
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Orton isn't anywhere close to being ready to hold the title. Besides, that gives them only 2 weeks to set up Benoit/Orton. They're going to book a big title change that soon after the big cage match this Monday, with that little build up? Sounds like BS.


It's an Ironman match on Monday.

And I agree. BS.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.38
Since the Big Gold Belt came out of hibernation the week after SummerSlam 2 years ago, each joint/RAW PPV World Title match has involved Triple H, thus its doubtful they would end the 2 year streak at a joint PPV.
Way too soon to bump Orton to the World Title. Unless this is being done to virtually hot-shot the belt from Orton to Edge back to Trip and eventually to Orton at Mania, it doesn't seem logical. And, why have Orton's 'unbeatable' streak as I-C champ end and then have him job to Edge during a brief build-up to SummerSlam? A possible cocky Orton trying to duplicate Warrior in Toronto may have been a way to build him up quick, but right now, I just can't see it.
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Since the Big Gold Belt came out of hibernation the week after SummerSlam 2 years ago, each joint/RAW PPV World Title match has involved Triple H, thus its doubtful they would end the 2 year streak at a joint PPV.


Benoit vs. Kane, Bad Blood 2004.

Arguments about whether Orton can be a legit world champion right now aside, perhaps it's the timing that is leading them to make this decision more than anything else. Orton's been getting better and better face pops every week, but beating Benoit for the title in Canada will piss the live crowd off something fierce.

Could this be yet another Rock parallel for Orton? Think about it...Rocky was turning face by accident in late '98 when they really wanted him as a heel, so what did they do? Gave him the title under absolute heel circumstances by pairing him with McMahon. Watch the end of Survivor Series '98; it got the reaction they wanted. Whether the reaction sticks or not, the fans will crap all over that title change and it'll be the visual that they want on the PPV. It could - I say could - get things back on track with Orton as the heel the way they seem to want.



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I call partial BS. I still think SummerSlam will be Benoit vs heel Edge. However, I think they'll have HHH lose to Eugene and takes time off.

Orton takes over Evolution, and goes over Benoit at No Mercy or "Halloween Havoc" This sets up a returning HHH who expects Orton to step aside at WMXXI.

My basis for this are these rumors which are probably work, and the fact that Benoit v. Orton is being advertised for the house shows after SummerSlam.
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Booking Hunter against Eugene: Good idea.
Possibly having Hunter job in said match: Very good idea.
Booking Orton against Benoit: OK idea.
Having Orton beat Benoit for the title: NOT a good idea.

There's no way Orton should win the belt his first match into the main event - Benoit still needs it more (Orton's 23, for Christ's sake! You have years left in him!) and since we know Orton will come out on top in the feud, it's better to draw the feud out because it ends for all practical purposes when Benoit jobs the title.

There's no way Bradshaw & Orton both go over. And since the WWF wants to go with Bradshaw long-term, keep the belt on Benoit. I think Halloween Havoc is the best time to move the belt; to make the PPV seem really important... and you could easily draw out a Benoit/Orton feud until then.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.38

    Arguments about whether Orton can be a legit world champion right now aside, perhaps it's the timing that is leading them to make this decision more than anything else. Orton's been getting better and better face pops every week, but beating Benoit for the title in Canada will piss the live crowd off something fierce.

    Could this be yet another Rock parallel for Orton? Think about it...Rocky was turning face by accident in late '98 when they really wanted him as a heel, so what did they do? Gave him the title under absolute heel circumstances by pairing him with McMahon. Watch the end of Survivor Series '98; it got the reaction they wanted. Whether the reaction sticks or not, the fans will crap all over that title change and it'll be the visual that they want on the PPV. It could - I say could - get things back on track with Orton as the heel the way they seem to want.


I've been thinking the same thing about the Orton/Rock similarities for a while. In fact, I recall people on the net pissing all over Rock winning the title, and that didn't turn out so bad. Same with Lesnar - people were sick of Rock at the time, but so many people thought Lesnar was a poor choice to give the title to and that it was too soon. If Orton wins the gold in the next 6 months, or whatever, he might have Lesnar beat as the youngest champion in WWE history. I'd bet if that's the case that he makes a big deal of that for months on end. Just like he did with all the legends he beat and with how long his IC reign was. That sort of thing can lead to credibility, if you pound it into people's heads week after week. Doesn't mean it will, but I bet it'll work with Orton. And Orton's not gonna run off to anywhere like the NFL in the next few years - plus he's a third generation WWE'er with family roots in the company - so I'm betting the WWE is betting all their future on him being the next big superstar from the younger generation of stars. Lesnar was "it", then he left, and Orton & Cena appear to be next-in-line.

Even JBL probably won't turn out so bad in the end (in my opinion), but let's not get into that. Orton's the issue, and I think he's capable of carrying the world title. I also think that report is BS, but I wouldn't get all excited and mad if it happens. I think I'll be interested to see where things go after that.


(edited by chill on 24.7.04 0115)

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.62
It's all a moot point until we get word from someone who isn't from just another copy-and-paste-speculation website. Even IF they were to give the title shot to Randy Orton, he wouldn't win it. This booking would be insane, and it would make no sense whatsoever. Granted, WWE makes stupid decisions, but c'mon.

And who's Mike Johnson? What are his sources? Has he talked with anyone remotely associated with WWE other than the time he went to Barnes and Noble and got Mick Foley's autograph at the book signing?




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.21
Orton seems to me to have that special something that makes a great performer. When he spit in Foley's face, he got huge heel heat, and the (unintended) face pops he's getting at the minute indicate to me that he has the potential to make us love him as much as he has made us hate him. I still think Benoit has to have a longer run, and can't see him jobbing it at SS. The only way I can picture Orton being involved in the title at SS is if they do an angle about HHH getting hurt this Monday or similar (enraged Eugene, anyone?). Wasn't HBK supposed to be back around SS?
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.62
No. I will be spending well after $300 for to go to this thing to watch no move set Orton take the belt off of Benoit in Toronto. I don't think Raw knows what its main event is going to be. I hope to God, that this isn't true. If it is you don't have to worry about the Canadans pissing on the main event, this America and his American friends will do it for you.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.06
Assuming this comes to fruition, does Orton turn face? Or does he stay heel, kick HHH out of Evolution, then HHH has a glorious face run, culminating at Mania?



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
I'd assume Hunter turns face, as he'd be the one chasing the title to WrestleMania. The plan all along has been for Orton to kick Hunter out of Evolution and take over. I beleive they were planning on doing this for last year's WrestleMania, but they realized it was too soon.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.59
I don't know, I still see an Elimination Chamber coming, it doesn't look like they are building for anything for Benoit to do at Summerslam, so it'd be easy for Bischoff to bring the Chamber back without any build. "You don't have a contender, well guess what! You have five in the ELIMINATION CHAMBER! BWAHAHAHAH!" I guess they could do a match to determine the number one contender at SS, with Orton winning, but I still don't see it. I'm thinking the mentioned matches must be on the card for future house shows, and since house shows typically have PPV "practice" matches (well, the same matches as PPVs, usually), someone came up with the idea that SS must have the same main events. After all, I don't think they can really bring out the Elimination Chamber to House Shows, especially with the low turnouts lately. I guess it could still happen, but I don't think the average fan would even accept Orton winning it so soon. (Then again, I didn't like Brock getting it so early, and that turned out alright [until WMXX]) Orton vs. Benoit would be a good match, but if Orton wins, I expect a riot in Toronto.

EDIT: Oh, and if they do bring back the Elimination Chamber, they could further strengthen Benoit's underdog gimmick. Have him be the first out and still win it will raise him some more in the eyes of fans. (They've been doing this for forever, he won the Royal Rumble at #1, he had to face 2 other men at WMXX/Backlash, He had two matches at Bad Blood, he will probably beat HHH monday even though Batista injured him last monday, etc.) It seems the Chamber can do the most good, keeping the storylines going without blowing anything off. And now I am rambling...

(edited by Peregrine on 24.7.04 1140)

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I really don't think that they'll do an Elimination Chamber match because I don't think that they have six guys to put in the main event match. Benoit, HHH, and Orton are all givens as well as probably Kane. But who else? HBK won't be back yet. Shelton Benjamin isn't around. They need Edge and somone else for and IC title match. I don't know about Eugene. I think it makes the most sense to have Orton vs. Benoit.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.76
There are definitly enough people to fill out the Elim Chamber. As you said, HHH, Benoit, and Orton are givens. You could have any combination of Batista, Kane, Matt Hardy(because he's fueding w/ Kane), Jericho, Eugene, and William Regal.

(edited by bigredmachine29 on 24.7.04 1300)
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