Edge over Cena. With the next PPV being in Toronto, it makes good booking sense for Cena to win and Edge to challenge, I suppose. If he does win it's just a really horrible re-creation of the Foley and Rock hotshots from 1999 y'know. That said, this match doesn't have much juice to it...this match is 3rd from the top and they're pretty good at not making title changes seem too insignificant (at least whatever title is on RAW.) I'd say Edge wins here and LOSES in Toronto. How bout that? I expect fully to be wrong.
Booker over Batista via DQ. SD is in trouble and, as I say about TNA, it'd be smarter to put it on Batista and right the ship until the CW starts and the entire roster gets out of rehab. That said, they can milk it till SurSer so Bookahhhh retains.
Vince and Shane OVER DX. This feud isn't over by a long shot. McMahon's win an overbooked mess.
Hogan over Orton. Question is, can dude drop the legdrop without Nashing himself up? Anyway, Hogan wins in the night's final match. Believe it.
Flair over Foley. Baby makes heel say "I quit." Expect Melina-ference in this one.
Chavo over Rey. Heel goes over to start feud.
And in your shocker of the night.
SABU OVER Big Show. Just a quirky hunch, but they want ECW to make an impact, Sabu puts Show through a table, maybe thumb tacks and wins with help of RVD and/or Angle. Why not, y'know? Be unpredictable. And if my other title match predictions hold true, then SABU would have to win.
Historic night, first time 3 world title are defended on a PPV.
I think of what Kerry Von Erich once said, "There's only one world. There should only be one world champion."
I think there is a lot of money in the 'chase' part of the feud for Batistia, so maybe he won't get the title, but Cena certainly will.
Big Show will win for sure, Paul knows ECW needs a monster heel and Sabu is still on punishment.
Hogan and Orton will barely resemble a match.
I have a feeling its gonna end up as Vince/Shane and UMAGA vs. DX
The Flair and Foley match will be interesting. What is the history of I QUIT matches? Does the face always go over? -------- As for the Von Erich quote: Will Rey be considered World Champion in the eyes of history? Is Booker World Champion in the eyes of history? This is where kayfabe meets reality.
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Originally posted by canis582As for the Von Erich quote: Will Rey be considered World Champion in the eyes of history? Is Booker World Champion in the eyes of history? This is where kayfabe meets reality.
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Well, in WWE-ized history (which at this point IS wrestling history) they certainly will. I remember in the old days reading PWI when people would argue on what is a world title. They'd say it's a belt defended all over the world against the best competition. By that definition, no title is really a "World" title. The ROH title comes closest to fitting that mold. To keep my head from hurting I consider the WWE-ized belts, the NWA belt and the ROH belt to be authentic world titles.
The problem with adding the ECW belt to the mix is that it really hammers home the pecking order. It's like the old days with the IC and Euro belts (or TV and US, if you prefer.)
The Raw title is #1 and the SD and ECW title vie for 2nd class status.
If a major wrestling organization says it's a world championship, it's a world championship. Really, the only debate lies in whether or not the organization is major enough to have the authority to make that decision. And I don't think there's anyone who would argue WWE isn't at that level. Rey and Booker easily qualify as world champs.
Originally posted by geemoneyRey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero: I'm afraid to say, Chavo, and I'm even more afraid of saying who turns on Rey here.
I can't imagine that fans are emotionally involved at all in this mess. It's just embarrassing and awful, and adding Vicki Guerrero to it just makes everything even more inane. I just don't see where they can go with this... continue a Rey/Chavo feud? How would it end? It just seems... I don't want to say "tasteless," but yeah a little bit. I know we've said that time and time again about Eddie-related booking, but I just feel that it's time to be done with it. It's not interesting anymore.
I'm picking Cena to regain the title, though I don't know if it'll be by DQ or not. Batista over Booker by DQ. I think they'll hold off the World Title win a bit longer. Big Show over Sabu. I think they'll save the title switch for RVD or, more likely, Angle. Hogan over Orton. I just don't feel safe betting against Hogan. If Orton does win, it's in the screwiest fashion imaginable. Chavo over Rey, with help from Vickie. I think Mick will beat Flair - Flair won the first match, and hardcore is supposed to be Mick's forte. The feud will have appeared too one-sided if Flair wins again, this time in a match right up Foley's alley. DX over Vince/Shane. Maybe I'm naive in thinking this will effectively end the feud.
*DX beats the McMahons *Hogan beats Orton *Cena beats Edge *Foley beats Flair after he knocks him out and the ref stops the match *Rey beats Chavo (since hopefully this horrible angle will end after tonight....right?...or maybe it will continue anyway like last year's feud where Rey beat Eddie every time) *Booker beats Batista (or, more accurately, retains through a B.S. DQ or something) *Big Show beats Sabu
Scene: Mark DeRosa's brain. The year is 2005. Part of Mark DeRosa's brain: Come on, another position change? One day it's second base, the next day right field, now it's third? Why, I oughta go into Buck's office and throw his talking fish on the floor! Other part of Mark DeRosa's brain: Hold on, other part of the brain. We're making $500,000 this year. Last year we made $725,000. All for playing a damn kids' game. This is, as they say in Brainland, a no-"us"-er. We're not going to complain. Part of Mark DeRosa's brain: You're right, dude. Let's go back to looking at this crazy porn Teixeira gave us!
The best thing to do with Rey and Chavo, right now, is to have Rey beat Chavo. Then Chavo breaks down in the ring, and apologises to Rey. Think Ben Stiller's anger melting away in ROYAL TENENBAUMS as he confesses that the previous had just beat him into submission. The two men hug, raise each other's hand, and move on with Chavo out of retirement and on good terms with Rey.
Cena over Edge Booker over Batista Hogan Over Orton DX over The McMahons Flair Over Foley Rey over Chavo Big Show over Sabu
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John Cena vs. Edge: Cena, setting up the return later. Wouldn't be shocked to see Lita cause it, leading to Edge getting rid of her for good
King Booker vs. Batista: Batista
DX vs. The McMahons: McMahons
Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Orton: Hogan. He ain't coming back to lose to Orton......not that I'd want him to anyway
Mick Foley vs. Ric Flair: Flair via Foley grabbing a mic and yelling "I QUIT" before a punch can be thrown
Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero: ........I do not know. Chavo can't win cleanly, and if he is going to win, I too have a sinking feeling it'll involve Vicki. Which is just.....uggggggggggh. Suppose I'll say Rey
Big Show vs. Sabu: Sabu.....who the hell else is left if Big Show beats him?
Haven't watched SD in over 2 years, so I'll pass on guessing those matches.
ECW Title match: Title retained. Can't see Sabu getting the belt. Perhaps RVD costs Sabu the match, thus causing everything in ECW to be shades of gray.
Flair vs. Foley: Won't be of the caliber of Flair/Funk and certainly not Magnum/Tully. Flair wins as the babyface refuses to quit while the heel is so cowardly that saying I Quit becomes a cheap way out of a beating.
Hogan vs. Orton: Hogan has a 10 minute entrance. Orton jumps him for a minute, then a Hulk UP moment, Big Boot, Leg Drop, 10 minute exit. Hogan wins.
Cena vs. Edge. Lita's interference is caught by the ref, thus giving Cena the belt via DQ.
DX vs. McMahon Family: This will be a clusterfuck, so I'll have fun with this. I apologize a thousand times in advance should this not prove to be correct. Vince uses his resources to bring out the Spirit Squad. They are quickly destroyed. Then, the tribal drumbeat begins, and out comes Kamala. DX counters that by holding up a pair of shoes, thus causing Kamala to run to the back. Next, Vince holds up a Dusty Rhodes DVD that he has purchased, causing Dusty to try to help Vince in appreciation for the purchase. Unfortunately, just as Dusty is getting to the ring, he is tackled by 3 men wearing shirts with the logo WELLNESS; one of whom is carrying a butterfly net, and they bring Dusty to the back. Shortly after the PPV, the company's website states that 'Due to unnaturally high levels of Crisco found in his system, Dusty Rhodes will be taken off the road. We wish him well on his recovery.' Then, Vince finally brings out Umaga, who is ready to destroy DX until a Fidel Castro impersonator in the stands holds up a dozen cigars, causing Umaga to leave in confusion. Finally, Vince tries to use the power of McMahonism to raise the dead, unfortunately, while successful, he only can raise Al Wilson. Al gets destroyed, the both McMahon's get double pinned. DX wins and the match won't be nearly as interesting as this.
Originally posted by geemoneyJohn Cena vs. Edge: "The Marine" hype is saddling up, therefore Cena wins, perhaps with Lita (accidentally) costing Edge the match.
King Booker vs. Batista: King Booker retains, but it won't be for long.
DX vs. The McMahons: DX wins, and with them defeating the McMahons, they soon decide to go their separate ways.
Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Orton: This is kind of a tough one, actually.....I'll say Orton, but perhaps with the dreaded HANDFUL OF TIGHTS~!
Mick Foley vs. Ric Flair: Who says "I Quit" first? I'm gonna say Flair wins.
Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero: I'm afraid to say, Chavo, and I'm even more afraid of saying who turns on Rey here.
Big Show vs. Sabu: Big Show retains.
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-Edge weasels his way to a victory somehow; I just have a feeling WWE doesnt want to make his 2nd reign also be a joke.
-Batista wins, he's coming in with a lot of momentum; as high-larious as Booker is with that gimmick, Batista is coming in with HUNGER! Batista regains title.
-Obviously DX wins for the pay-off in what will most likely be a spot-fest or full of run-ins; I have a feeling theyll rly try to make this match entertaining. Idk why ppl were happy about DX reforming, as this is just a lead-in to another endless series of HBK-HHH feuds.
-Hulk Hogan wins, unless he somehow saw Randy as the "future" and went soft on me there, this is what I see; they're both busted open, hogan with the leg drop; Brooke heel turn! bah gawd! Orton hits Hogan with a chair; DQ!
-Mick Foley vs Flair- an incessantly hardcore-action packed duel to the finish, at which point; near the end of the match, both men collapse; the referee counts to 10.. they're both down! both down! Covered in their own blood, this unforgettable battle is a DRAW! (Maybe)
-Big Show is taken to the brink by Sabu, before finally putting him through a table- Big Show wins...also, possible run-in by Van Dam.
As for Rey, Im drawing a blank but I'd like to think Rey wins and has what is supposed to be a heart-warming moment with Chavo, after which point they stop using Eddie's name to push angles for a while.
Cena over Edge to lead to Unforgiven. Batista over Booker via DQ- he does not win the title. Orton over Hogan via chicanery. Hogan wins the return match later on. DX over The McMahons after X-Pac interferes (sure, why not?) Flair Over Foley. Chavo over Rey Mysterio. Big Show over Sabu.
Cena over Edge by DQ Booker over Batista by cheating Hogan over Orton iff he can do the legdrop. If not, Orton. McMahons over DX after Tripps turns on Shawn Flair over Foley, but not via "quick quit" Rey over Chavo Sabu over Big Show
Edge over Cena to retain. Title goes back on Cena next month in the TLC match.
Batista over Booker; new champion.
Hogan over Orton. I was thinking Orton, but then realized I'd be fooling myself. Legdrop or no, he's going to win. And this isn't the first time in recent years he's been so physically deteriorated he wasn't able to do the legdrop, right?.
dX over The McMahons. Either way...Jesus, just end this damn program already.
Flair over Foley.
Chavo over Rey. Hell, they didn't book him to win when he was champion, don't know what'd make them change their minds now. Additionally, I'm going against the alarmists and say that Vickie Guerrero DOESN'T turn on Rey.
Big Show over Sabu. I have a feeling the big "title switch" is still a couple weeks away.
WWE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH: Edge (c) v. John Cena The stipulations favor Cena so blatantly that there's no way he's winning. Edge retains, probably winning by DQ when Carlito interferes, and hopefully they blow it off once and for all in a gimmick match of some sort at Unforgiven. (At which point Cena will, sadly, win it back until sometime around the new year.)
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH: King Booker (c) v. Batista A no-brainer - Booker's only champ so Batista didn't have to win it from a popular underdog babyface which would probably have screwed up the face/heel reactions. Batista wins.
LEGEND vs LEGEND KILLER Hulk Hogan v. Randy Orton There's no good reason for Hogan to go over anyone at this point, but it's just Randy Orton so it's not like I'd be shedding any tears if he does. Still, the Hulkster has put a remarkable number of people over in his post-WCW run (Rocky, Angle, Lesnar, Show) and I'm betting Randy Orton becomes the least deserving name on that list tonight.
ECW WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH The Big Show (c) v. Sabu Too much of ECW's current booking revolves around The Big Show as Paul Heyman's personal champion for him to drop it here.
D-Generation X VS Vince and Shane McMahon Hopefully, DX wins and this whole angle disappears and is never spoken of again. In reality, DX does win, but the whole thing gets dragged out until at least the Survivor Series. And Umaga will show up and do something awesome. This is also your main event, by the way.
I QUIT MATCH: Mick Foley v. Ric Flair The only match I'm tempted to order the show for - these two, by all accounts, legitimately dislike each other and, therefore, ought to pull out all the stops to outcrazy the other one. Neither guys needs to win and neither guy would be hurt at all by a loss, so I'm going with my heart and picking Mick Foley, who really ought to be the face in this whole thing.
Rey Mysterio Jr. v. Chavo Guerrero Jr. Never pick the booking that involves Chavo winning a match. Rey takes it.
That's it? Hedging my bets just in case any of these get added: *Bobby Lashley d. Fit Finlay *Johnny Nitro d. Kane *Trish Stratus d. Lita *The Sandman and Tommy Dreamer d. Mike Knox and Test
(edited by OlFuzzyBastard on 20.8.06 1622) "That's my problem - I'm too frank. That's why my mother shoved me down the stairs. But then she is fat."
Wow! I'd read a couple of his columns before, and thought maybe he was just having a bad day or something. But Yikes, he really seems to be like this every day. I don't recall Goldberg taking any public shots at Warrior before...did I miss something?