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Since: 3.1.02
From: Calgary

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#21 Posted on
I'm pissed that I won't see if the Blue Jays can finish over .500. I mean, I feel for the young players (especially on the Blue Jays) who made teams for the first time this year, and are FINALLY getting their shot at Major League glory...but then it all gets flushed down the crapper due to a strike that these guys have little or nothing to do with. The fans lose & the young players lose. This sucks. Poor baseball. Let's pray hockey and football never get this bad.



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Since: 4.1.02
From: Dorchester, Ontario

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#22 Posted on

    Let's pray hockey and football never get this bad.


When the NHL's current agreement runs out in 2004, that strike is going to make baseball's current problems look like a tea party.

BTW, fuck you major league baseball.



(edited by Big Bad on 18.8.02 0018)


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Since: 3.1.02
From: C-Bus, Ohio

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#23 Posted on

    Originally posted by chazerizer

      Originally posted by Merc
      Is it just the Major League guys going out? Is there any chance of minor league guys playing in their place? Is the players union a compulsory thing? Would anyone NOT go out?


    It is, in fact just American and National league players going out. Which forces me to wonder why they don't start having scab games. Its what happened in football, and it ersulted in the "holy grail CBA" that football is so proud of. I would still watch it. Then again, I'll watch anything.

    EDIT : after I wrote this, I realized the reason why - baseball has guaranteed contracts, which means that they can sit home and make their money. I think.



Nope. If they go on strike they don't get paid. There was thing in our paper today talking about how A-Rod will lose something like 4 million dollars if they go on strike (sheds tear). However, the guys on the minimum are the ones who will suffer. Now, I know that sounds dumb because they make like 200,000 dollars a year anyway, but if you're set on that budget and lost 35,000 of it, you're kinda screwed.



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rlbehan
Chipolata








Since: 6.7.02
From: Albany

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#24 Posted on
I have started my own strike and have already stopped watching or listening to games, and I sure won't show up in another major league park ever if they go out on the 30th. Took me five years to watch a game after `94, and I am just sick of this crap. The players and owners play us for suckers. I just hope we don't fall for a "juiced up ball" next time and come crawling back. I don't so much mind people making as much money as they can, its the abject greed and lack of gratitude at their good fortune that troubles me.
SerWolfe
Landjager








Since: 11.1.02
From: st louis

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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Well... honestly i have always enjoyed the game itself. I dont think the strike will happen... but if it does... i'm still going to watch minor league games... and any other games that are available. I wont let greed change the fact that i like the game itself. And when the players come back (if they strike) i will still probably watch the games on tv... just because there are players i like and i enjoy watching.



Screw the strike date! Go Cardinals!
The Thrill
Banger








Since: 16.4.02
From: Green Bay, WI

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#26 Posted on
"Striker...Striker...Striker...Striker...STRIKER!" --Airplane, 1980

Now if only Bud Selig could play the part of the woman who was on the receiving end of the fist after that quote, we'd be OK.

Save the Milwaukee Brewers...sell 'em to Harley-Davidson! But bust Selig outta there, and SOMEBODY save The Show! (No, not Paul Wight, dammmit...)

Thank God for Packer football.





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whatever
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Since: 12.2.02
From: Cleveland, Ohio

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#27 Posted on
I pity the Expos, who got screwed in '94 (first place!) and will probably get moved or contracted now.

Baseball here in Cleveland felt little to no ill effects of the strike in '94 because the team was 1 game out of first when the strike hit and went to the series the following year. This year, they have destroyed the team lineup and started the rebuilding process. I think they are in for a rude suprise here when the strike hits, because fans will really get turned off from baseball.

The more I think about it too, the more ticked I get. I cannot comprehend the salaries that players make, even the lower tier players. I don't have any sympathy for someone making *only* 200K, if they couldn't see this event coming and PLAN for this (that's BUDGETING), tough cookies. I REALLY don't want to hear a single thing from players making 20+ million a YEAR saying "We're doing this for the future players!" BULLS*%T. If you care about the game, play baseball, and give other teams a chance to win (not just the Yankees Invitational) with competitive salaries.

Of course the owners are just as stupid for giving all this money away. Maybe they do deserve each other.

I'm not stupid enough to say "I'll never watch baseball again", because I am a sports fan. I want to see competition. But I have not and will not spend my money on the game.



I drove the Hummer. Sorry 'bout that.
mountinman44
Sujuk








Since: 8.5.02
From: San Diego, CA

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#28 Posted on
9 days and counting down...

1994 - The Expos have the best record in baseball. Matt Williams is on pace to break Roger Maris' record of 61 HR's in a season. Tony Gwynn is hitting .394 and making a run at becoming the first player since Ted Williams to hit .400 in a season. Lots of guys got screwed in 1994.

2002 - Donald Fehr sends out a memo blasting the owners' luxury tax proposal. John Moores, owner of the San Diego Padres, says he is prepared to shut down for the 2003 season along with 8-10 other owners.

Does this sound like an agreement is coming soon? Hello, Arena Football!





Rest in Peace, Chick.
Scott Summets
Sujuk








Since: 27.6.02

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#29 Posted on
This could be our last weekend of baseball ever.



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Go Penn Quakers!

Torchslasher
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Since: 17.1.02
From: New F'n Jersey

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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44
Wow, I am with It's False on the baseball end. My two favorite teams have always been the Dodgers and Angels, and this strike ruins that. Ugh.

That being said, baseball will never die. Whether it be a home run contest, or pitching, or mandatory viewing of games under penalty of death, they will find a way of surviving. I'm as pissed as the next person about this, but don't be so naive to think that baseball can't bounce back again from a work stoppage.





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mountinman44
Sujuk








Since: 8.5.02
From: San Diego, CA

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Y!:
#31 Posted on
7 days and counting...

The MLBPA and the owners agreed on steroid testing today. No response from the Union on the latest luxury tax proposal. I went to what could be my last Padre game on Tuesday, watching them beat the Braves 6-2. I will miss the Nachos most. Ballpark Nachos RULE!!!



Rest in Peace, Chick.
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Since: 9.12.01
From: Bay City, OR

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#32 Posted on
I'm going tonight - and if they strike - this is my last game for a VERY long time.



Your a retarted looser.
Eddie Famous
Andouille








Since: 11.12.01
From: Catlin IL

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#33 Posted on
Baseball MAY lose a few fans if there is a strike, but they will be back.

There is no replacement.

And don't give me any of this damn scab game crap. If they could play, they'd be in the majors.



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Since: 3.1.02
From: Brisbane, Australia

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#34 Posted on

    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
    If they could play, they'd be in the majors.


Without question every Major League player deserves his spot above any player not in the Majors? You'd think with this perfect system that they could resolve the wage disputes too...............



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SerWolfe
Landjager








Since: 11.1.02
From: st louis

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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I hate all this waiting to the last minute stuff. The media was discussing the contract long before sides even met. Both sides know that a strike will harm baseball bigtime.... its just a matter of coming up with a decent agreement in time.



Screw the strike date! Go Cardinals!
mountinman44
Sujuk








Since: 8.5.02
From: San Diego, CA

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#36 Posted on
2 days and counting...

The players and owners are still $15 million apart on the luxury tax issue. No word on how far apart they are on percentages. The MLBPA's last proposal had percenatges much lower than the owners, plus there would be no tax in the 4th and final year of the deal.
There are reports that they have agreed on the Drug testing issue. The MLBPA has said that if a deal was not done today, they could not prevent a walkout on Friday.

IMHO, I hope they walk now. This whole thing has just pissed me off to no end. Bud lies about losses. The players want more money. The small market owners want economic sanity, which I support. I'll be heading out to SDSU to see Coach Tony Gwynn lead the Aztecs.



Rest in Peace, Chick.
A-MOL
Frankfurter








Since: 26.6.02
From: York, England

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#37 Posted on
Do you know what would save baseball?

XLB!



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Since: 2.1.02
From: The Silver Spring in the Land of Mary.

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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
i like Baseketball's idea of mixing sports...the image of the linebacker hitting a fastball, and another LB tackling the outfielder makes me giggle like an idiot... ^_^



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mountinman44
Sujuk








Since: 8.5.02
From: San Diego, CA

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#39 Posted on
13 hours away...

According to Jason Stark of ESPN.com, they are only $8 million apart on the luxury tax threshold. They still have not agreed on the percentage of the tax. They have agreed on revenue sharing set around $260 million.
Most teams have cancelled their chartered flights for their next trips, be it home or away. The Cleveland Indians' players gave their clubhouse workers their season ending tips yesterday. Travis Fryman announced his retirement yesterday because he didn't know if the season was going to continue after tomorrow. And the Great Ernie Harwell may have called his final game as the play-by-play announcer for the Detroit Tigers.

It was nice of Bud to finally show his face in NY. Of course, he didn't do anything but pop by and say, "Hi!" What a guy! I hope beyond hope they don't take the game away from us again.



Rest in Peace, Chick.
Zeruel
Thirty Millionth Hit
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Since: 2.1.02
From: The Silver Spring in the Land of Mary.

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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    Originally posted by mountinman44
    13 hours away...

    According to Jason Stark of ESPN.com, they are only $8 million apart on the luxury tax threshold. They still have not agreed on the percentage of the tax. They have agreed on revenue sharing set around $260 million.
    Most teams have cancelled their chartered flights for their next trips, be it home or away. The Cleveland Indians' players gave their clubhouse workers their season ending tips yesterday. Travis Fryman announced his retirement yesterday because he didn't know if the season was going to continue after tomorrow. And the Great Ernie Harwell may have called his final game as the play-by-play announcer for the Detroit Tigers.

    It was nice of Bud to finally show his face in NY. Of course, he didn't do anything but pop by and say, "Hi!" What a guy! I hope beyond hope they don't take the game away from us again.



yeah, he went just to say that he was there for the talks...no matter how ineffective he is..

Selig rhymes with ass.




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