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Credit to ESPN.com:

Baseball players set a strike date for Aug. 30, a senior member of the union's executive board said Friday, putting the sport on course for its ninth work stoppage since 1972.

Morons... both sides are complete, f'ing morons...




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Yep, another good season wasted. Good races in the AL West, AL Wild Card, and NL Wild Card all gone. The question is how many people will be turned off by baseball once again?



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It looks like Bud Selig is going to lead baseball into Jonestown for Kool-Aid time. Split the middle, get a deal, and contract the Brewers and baseball will be all set.
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At this point, all I really care about is that I have Phillies tickets this weekend (for Harry Kalas bobblehead day) and that game will be played.

After that, it's football season for all I care about, especially once I get my copy of Madden tomorrow.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22

    Originally posted by Mr. Cactuar
    Yep, another good season wasted. Good races in the AL West, AL Wild Card, and NL Wild Card all gone. The question is how many people will be turned off by baseball once again?


I've said this before - another major strike, so close to the last one, again disrupting the playoffs, will massacre Major League Baseball. Chances of survival for MLB would be very low, especially given the competition that other sports are giving baseball.

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It looks like we will see some baseball from the minors on ESPN after Aug. 30 at this rate.



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#7 Posted on
There really shouldn't be a strike. Listening about talk of negotiations, the two sides have a general agreement of what needs to be done. That's not even the issue. We're only talking about numbers now. Getting the numbers together shouldn't be that hard. But if anyone could manage not to come to an agreement, it would be baseball players and owners.

As far as fans not coming back, I think they will. People said the only reason people came back last time was Ripken, McGuire, and Sosa. Guess what, there will be another Ripken, McGuire, and/or Sosa in the future, after the strike. Great players do great things, and the greatest players play in the Major Leagues. So if all it takes for fans to come back is a great story, then there is no doubt, the fans will come back. If it can survive a World Series cancellation (and everyone said it wouldn't back then too), then it can survive just about anything.

(The are some attempts to organize a fan strike the next two weeks. If that actually takes off, then maybe I would change my opinion. But I'm betting there will be no significant drop in attendance or ratings)
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Here's the number that keeps getting me...

Nine stoppages since 1972. Now, the last one was 1994. It's been 8 years roughly since that one... which leaves 8 work stoppages in the 22 years between '72 and '94. That's an average of one every 3 years if they were spaced out evenly.

Why don't I remember all of these work stoppages? What's the deal with this number... it doesn't add up to me. Were there multiple stoppages in one season?





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Year Stoppage Days Gameslost Issue
1972 Strike 13 86 Pension plans
1973 Lockout 12 0* Salary arbitration
1976 Lockout 17 0* Free agency
1980 Strike 8 0* Free-agent compensation
1981 Strike 50 712 Free-agent compensation
1985 Strike 2 0 Salaryarbitration
1990 Lockout 32 0* Arbitration,salary cap
94-95 Strike 232 921 Salary cap,revenue sharing
* occurred during spring training
/edit to add chart (from ESPN.com)

(edited by calvinh0560 on 16.8.02 2043)
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#10 Posted on
Much like in pro wrestling, there was one defining moment that restored faith in baseball and brought fans back to the sport after the depressing abomination that was the 1994 strike. That one thing was the chase for the home run record. Big Mac and Slammin Sammy brought intrigue back to baseball and after Maris's record was snapped, fans stuck around.

Time for a reality check! If there's another work stoppage, there IS no home run race or any other race that will bring back fans! Much like in pro wrestling, rehashing the same story will not bring back fans! The only exception would be Barry Bonds catching Hank Aaron, but that's not the only reason fans will not come back.

To the average Joe, a strike is being threatened because the players aren't satisfied with their payroll. People in this country are struggling with the economy and unemployment is rising by the day and these guys are complaining over an average $2.3 million salary?!?! That may not be true, but that's how the average person will see this and the fans WILL turn against the players! They will also turn against owners for being stubborn bastards!

This is not what the country needs right now! Our country has turned to baseball to get us out of the reality of the post-9/11 era. We turned to baseball and asked it to be our national pasttime again to help us cope with tragedy and less than a year later, these jackoffs are cutting another season short and cancelling another World Series over something as asinine as payroll.

Every sports writer has said this: How the hell can you NOT come up with a sensible way to divide $3.5 BILLION?!?! This is NOT rocket science!! There should at least be SOMEBODY out there who knows what the hell they're doing.

I've seen CRZ use this somewhere in one of his recaps and I'll say it here because it applies. IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE COME TO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE!! I DON'T CARE HOW YOU DO IT, BUT FIX IT!!

In this post-9/11 era, baseball doesn't mean as much as it used to. If there's a work stoppage, fans will not come back and the sport will die! Fans won't care. As long as there are alternatives in the forms of the NBA, NFL, and NHL, we'll live.

Rant over.



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#11 Posted on
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Only 2 more weeks until this shit finally ends! (pumps fist) Baseball sucks right now, I have no reason to watch it. I love baseball, I can still watch individual games, but I have absolutely no reason to follow it over the course of a season anymore.

That being said, they'll get a deal signed before the deadline. They're too close. But, there's a positive in that to: I won't have to hear this crap anymore.



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bah. Could that be because both your teams are not having good years? To wish the season over is one thing.... to wish baseball dead is another. The Redbirds are having a good season... and i for one wanted to see the end of this season.

Go Cards!



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#13 Posted on

    Originally posted by SerWolfe
    bah. Could that be because both your teams are not having good years? To wish the season over is one thing.... to wish baseball dead is another. The Redbirds are having a good season... and i for one wanted to see the end of this season.

    Go Cards!



See, this is another reason for me to have sour grapes! FOR ONCE, both the Dodgers and the Angels are on the verge of making the postseason. It's something I've been waiting to see for a long time, being a lifetime Dodgers and Angels fan. I was even one of the guys rooting for a Freeway World Series (it'll never happen, but a guy can dream, right?). There's even intrigue in this, because it still not 100% sure to happen, but half the thrill is in the chase and watching to see if the Dodgers can hold off the Giants and if the Angels can hold off the A's and Red Sox and maybe even *gasp* TAKE FIRST PLACE FROM SEATTLE!! And now none of it will happen or unfold because of another work stoppage. It's beyond frustrating and it makes me want to walk away for good.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.33
I was back into baseball again, but if the strike hits it's all over for me. I'll stick with coaching and stuff, but never watch a game on TV again.

I love the game, but they're killing my enthusiasim to watch THEM play it once more.




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#15 Posted on
Is it just the Major League guys going out? Is there any chance of minor league guys playing in their place? Is the players union a compulsory thing? Would anyone NOT go out?



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#16 Posted on

    Originally posted by It's False
    See, this is another reason for me to have sour grapes! FOR ONCE, both the Dodgers and the Angels are on the verge of making the postseason. It's something I've been waiting to see for a long time, being a lifetime Dodgers and Angels fan. I was even one of the guys rooting for a Freeway World Series (it'll never happen, but a guy can dream, right?). There's even intrigue in this, because it still not 100% sure to happen, but half the thrill is in the chase and watching to see if the Dodgers can hold off the Giants and if the Angels can hold off the A's and Red Sox and maybe even *gasp* TAKE FIRST PLACE FROM SEATTLE!! And now none of it will happen or unfold because of another work stoppage. It's beyond frustrating and it makes me want to walk away for good.


OR, maybe the strike will save Angels fans from having to watch another choke job.




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If they do strike, I hope fans give up on baseball entirely and these players never ever make a single dime off baseball again. Nobody. Maybe then all of them, players, owners, whoever, would realize what complete jackasses they are.



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#18 Posted on
    Originally posted by SerWolfe
    bah. Could that be because both your teams are not having good years? To wish the season over is one thing.... to wish baseball dead is another. The Redbirds are having a good season... and i for one wanted to see the end of this season.

    Go Cards!



Hey, until they fix the damn sport, it deserves to die. Period.

And yes, my team sucks. The Marlins are a joke, they are a PRIME example of what is wrong with the sport.

(edited by BobHollySTILLRules on 17.8.02 0757)


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#19 Posted on

    Originally posted by Merc
    Is it just the Major League guys going out? Is there any chance of minor league guys playing in their place? Is the players union a compulsory thing? Would anyone NOT go out?


It is, in fact just American and National league players going out. Which forces me to wonder why they don't start having scab games. Its what happened in football, and it ersulted in the "holy grail CBA" that football is so proud of. I would still watch it. Then again, I'll watch anything.

EDIT : after I wrote this, I realized the reason why - baseball has guaranteed contracts, which means that they can sit home and make their money. I think.



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At least AAA Baseball will have an end!





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