Originally posted by geemoneyThat seems awful long for just 10 inductions....awesome that you were there. Can you remember who did the speeches to introduce the others?
Seeing as though my memory of such things is not always reliable, good thing I have my trusty digital pics to help remind me (and my HoF program)!
Here are the pairings of inductors/inductees (mostly in the order in which they appeared, but I realized just now I didn't get pictures of everyone):
Triple H --> Superstar Billy Graham Jimmy Hart --> Greg Valentine Kane --> Pete Rose Big Show --> Big John Studd (accepted by his son John Minton, Jr.) Pat Patterson --> Sgt. Slaughter Jack Lanza --> Bobby Heenan HBK --> Tito Santana Ric Flair --> Harley Race Ernie Ladd --> Junkyard Dog (accepted by his daughter, I'm sorry I don't remember her name) Mick Foley --> Don Muraco Jesse's son (again, forget name) --> Jesse Ventura
JR also gave a speech in between Slaughter and Heenan. It was actually a pretty good motivational speech, definitely aimed straight at the current day wrestlers. A lot of talk about grabbing the opportunities that present themselves and making the most of it. Almost a pep talk/talking to...kind of weird to be a part of it, sitting on the outside looking in. But it made me motivated--hope it worked on the guys (and girls) as well!
Stephanie is so coming to Raw, look at the pattern she was the GM of Smackdown where every woman at the show except for Steph was characterless and looked cheap... Now look at Raw. We have Molly running around bald, Trish going around pretending it's 2000 acting like her rookie year and Victoria turning babyface who's main characteristic is that she wears wrestling shorts that ride up on her. The Raw women nowadays are as bland as the SD women, and that's just depressing. Steph will look good one way or another
smark/net attack wienerville advisory stays at BLUE alert - Guarded (With Benoit & Eddie being World & WWE champions you'd expect the alert to be Green but couldn't do it due to Trish heel turn & brands re-draft)- 3/16
Honors for Smartest thing ever written, 5th Horseman "When Victoria, Trish, Molly, and Lilian were in the ring.. I commented to my friends that all of the 4 ladies in the ring were hotter than the all 4 that are fighting over who is the hottest in the WWE"
How are a formerly-psychopathic babyface champion, a BALD number one contender and a freshly-turned former queen of colorless facedom BLAND?! The Women's division is finally starting to show a little depth outside of "Trish drops title to Jazz/Molly/Victoria, gets it back, drops it, chases it", which is all it was from Trish's initial reign at the end of 2001 until the start of the Jericho angle last fall.
Y'know, I REALLY think you're letting your dislike of the Trish heel turn affect your views of a lot of other stuff.
Molly and Victoria aren't bland.. tho I did prefer the slightly more psychotic Victoria to the one we have now, I'll give you that. Maybe it's a 'happy while she's got the belt' thing, I dunno. We'll see when she loses it.
Blaming it on someone who isn't even on television as of right now doesn't seem to make very much sense either. 'Steph will look good one way or another'? Tell me, when she held the womens title all those years ago, who beat her for it?
I dislike Steph as much as the next sane wrestling fan, but I don't think you can blame her for this.
Well, maybe in THAT way you could blame her. It's clearly false to say 'Steph will look good one way or another' though, as she's not on camera, so she doesn't look ANYTHING at the moment.
Originally posted by oldschoolheroHow are a formerly-psychopathic babyface champion, a BALD number one contender and a freshly-turned former queen of colorless facedom BLAND?! The Women's division is finally starting to show a little depth outside of "Trish drops title to Jazz/Molly/Victoria, gets it back, drops it, chases it", which is all it was from Trish's initial reign at the end of 2001 until the start of the Jericho angle last fall.
I don't think Trish really has been in the title picture since losing the title in April 03. She might have had a month after that trying to get it back from Jazz but since May she hasn't been a contender. Maybe her popularity given a illusion that she was always in the title hunt ths past year but if you look at actual build and focus push as a contender like I said she hasn't really been involved since May... If you recall after May, Ivory had a mini push on the face for a month before they went with Gail debut win (bad move in stopping Ivory push, it had potential I think) Seeing how bad that went they quickly took the title off Gail and gave it to Molly who has had a 8 month reign, and she did feud with Trish for a bit, but it was mostly just to set up Lita's return until now with Victoria push and win.
I'll keep Trish out of this because some might think my judgement is clouded because of it(even though I'd argue that but whatever). Victoria was a heck of a heel, "Taste of Fear" thing was great, I do think she'd make a good babyface. But as of now her turn consists of a big boot from Test turning her into a sh*t eating smiler with short shorts. There was very little babyface struggle to the championship. She got pinfall after pinfall on Molly at tag matches, beat her at 4way match then beat her at WM. There was very little to latch onto her. Saying that Vic still the best thing they got considering the alternative now... As for Molly, it's too much of a freakshow type thing for me. It's "Look SHE'S BALD, it's a bald woman! OMG". What more they can do with it? Maybe have Trish convince Molly to embrace her baldness & start an evil partnership. It would be a fresh team, but Trish is stuck with Christian.
As for my Stephanie comment, yeah you're right it was kind of a cheap shot and I'm sorry for that. But I have always noticed how SD girls were kinda one type of attitude. You know lollipop sucking Torrie, old man screwer Dawn, old man screwer Sable, and trailor park girl Nidia(Even though I really like Nidia and she did pretty well with her character)... All these girls had the same type of ideology in their charcters except Stephanie who looked like the powerful women who's all grown up
smark/net attack wienerville advisory stays at BLUE alert - Guarded (With Benoit & Eddie being World & WWE champions you'd expect the alert to be Green but couldn't do it due to Trish heel turn & brands re-draft)- 3/16
Honors for Smartest thing ever written, 5th Horseman "When Victoria, Trish, Molly, and Lilian were in the ring.. I commented to my friends that all of the 4 ladies in the ring were hotter than the all 4 that are fighting over who is the hottest in the WWE"
Originally posted by TorchslasherWhen Vince pointed out that members of his family would be involved in the draft, I did get the scared realization that Steph and/or Shane could be back on camera next week. I like Steph and all, but I don't need to see her back so soon.
When Vince made the comment "even members of my family", I thought he was alluding to HHH. I never even considered he was talking about Shane or Stephanie, since neither has been around for a while.
Originally posted by TorchslasherWhen Vince pointed out that members of his family would be involved in the draft, I did get the scared realization that Steph and/or Shane could be back on camera next week. I like Steph and all, but I don't need to see her back so soon.
When Vince made the comment "even members of my family", I thought he was alluding to HHH. I never even considered he was talking about Shane or Stephanie, since neither has been around for a while.
As somebody explained in an earlier thread, in storyline terms HHH is not related to Vince any longer. He and Steph divorced, so if we are talking strictly kayfabe, then he can't be talking to Trips. Because much of Vince's speech felt almost shootish and that line seemed ad-libbed, then he could be talking about HHH without having even meant to. I guess we'll see on Raw.