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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.47
Scott Steiner has been cleared to the ring according to several sources close to the situation. However, the internal feeling within WWE is that the creative team does not have anything for him. While most people would argue the SmackDown roster could use the extra talent, WWE management apparently feel that he is too “fragile” for a long term push at this point.

Despite being healthy through most of his stint with WWE, there is a suspicion that Steiner’s body is just too banged up to depend on him for any major storyline. Expect WWE to let Steiner’s contract expire as it appears as if we have seen the last of him in WWE.

Credit: PW Torch

Assuming the above report is true, I completely disagree. Throw Steiner over to Smackdown... and make him a centerpiece for a small stable of heels. He doesn't have to wrestle a whole lot - much like Triple H wasn't wrestling much a couple months back.

Steiner can still be an asset to the WWE as a strong heel. He's hit and miss on the mic (though his misses are horrible incoherent rambles that are funnier than they are intimidating), but he has enough recognizability with the crowd that we might still buy him as a threat.

Use Steiner to help get others over. And not just with Steiner as someone's opponent. Give him Dawn Marie or Teddy Long (or both) as a manager. Surround him with Mark Jindrak or... hell, if you want to go out on a limb and create a serious heel stable... back him up with Paul Heyman and the Dudley Boys.

I just don't buy these reports of the creative team "not finding anything" for so-and-so to do. It doesn't take much for one person to sit down and brainstorm. How can it be that much less effective for a "team" of more than one writer to find a place for wrestlers?

If any of these reports about the creative team are true, and that's why these wrestlers (like Kanyon) get released, then perhaps it's just the excuse they use so they don't have to pay more talent to appear on shows?

I'm all for Steiner jumping to Smackdown and them making some use out of whatever they're still paying him. He'd make a more interesting challenger for Eddie in some ways than Bradshaw does. He's another alternative to turn to...
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I agree completely on the 'creative has nothing for _____ to do' nonsense. We've heard it recently with Kanyon, Rey Mysterio, and now Scott Steiner.

How the HELL can you not have anything for Rey Mysterio to do? Or Steiner? You just listed a number of things for Steiner over on Smackdown, and him as a moufpiece (intended) for a heel stable would go over very well, in my opinion. I'd just love to see him in a promo battle against Cena, for one example. Or intimidating Eddie, since Bradshaw can't get that done right.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.46
Though I agree that any semblance of star power would help Smackdown right now, I say good riddance to Scott Steiner. He sucks in the ring, sucks on the mic, and sucks even when he just standing there looking dumb. He would take up space and nothing more. Better to give airtime to guys who can actually be used in the future, not a washed up, roided up freakzilla.

With that said, I absolutely love the name Freakzilla. Its the ONLY wrestling t-shirt I own.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.59
Man, I totally agree with Chill. I can understand not renewing his contract when it expires but why not take advantage of him while you're still paying him under contract. That just seems like Business 101 to me.

I'm not buying the we're afraid of another big time injury before the expiration....it's the nature of the business. It could happen at any time to any wrestler.

(edited by The Amazing Salami on 5.5.04 1049)


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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.47
It's common knowledge at this point that Vince loves pushing massively-muscled guys like Steiner/Hogan/Lesnar. When Steiner signed with WWE, he was "the last big name free agent (not named Goldberg)," and I recall him being paid in the high six figures.

True, his wrestling skills have diminished greatly, but his Steiner Recliner got over in a very big way in WCW during his run at the top. He needn't do a lot to get over. I believe the Recliner and some of his moveset could be well-received once again, in the right context. When you're placing him in the low card matches against guys like Hurricane, who's going to care about him? You can't stick a main eventer in the low card. On Smackdown, there is room for him near the top. Nobody cared about Big Show until he was at the top again, because that's where we believe he belongs. Steiner falls into the same treatment, if ya know what I'm sayin. I can't stand Steiner... but only when he's in low card matches. If guys like him or Big Show are losing to Hurricane or Jeff Hardy, nobody will give a crap.

What we see right now is:
Raw is the big time.
Smackdown is Thunder.

Is self-sabotage the only dish on WWE's menu right now?

(edited by chill on 5.5.04 1259)
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.58
Do we really want Steiner in the main events of Smackdown? After the horrid main events of ppv's that he had with HHH. He sucked in the main event, and the crowd let him know it every time. Just because Smackdown needs top level guys doesn't mean they should use Steiner, when he has already failed in that position.

He was a big name when he came in and the totally failed. That is why he was wrestling Hurricane and having debates with Frenchmen. His run is pretty much over.



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His career should be over... as a face. Nobody wanted to cheer for him after his first couple appearances. As a heel, he hasn't been used high in the card at all. He's been saddled with Test, who is the definition of not getting a crowd reaction.

A new face in the Smackdown roster wouldn't hurt. He doesn't need to wrestle a lot. Even Bradshaw doesn't wrestle much nowadays, the weeks when he has a match. Protect the wrestlers' weaknesses, and the product ends up looking okay. Steiner is a good visual on the screen.

WCW booked Steiner better.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89

Does anyone know the duration of his contract? ... I see him jumping to TNA when it's up.

And where the hell is Test? He could benefit with a move to Smackdown ... Call him Andrew Martin (the "Test" thing is played out) and throw him in a team with Jindrak ... and then he can be used to get Jindrak over.




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Seems to me if creative can't find something for the worker to do, then it's creative who should look for a new job, and not the worker.
I mean, what are they paying creative to do exactly?

That said, I never need to see Steiner and his awful ring work and his mushmouth interviews and his predisposition to injuries and his primadonna nature and his deteriorating body and his stupid chain mail headdress ever again. Let's admit that he can't keep up anymore, cut the losses and find a way to use the useful people on the payroll.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.52
Wait, are you suggesting Test is going to help get someone over? Hahahaha! Hahahaha!

Seriously, Test is a dead weight. He's a heat vacuum. He was entertaining in spurts. I've given him enough chances but ultimately have been left out in the cold by him. I didn't even realize that he hadn't been on my TV until I read this thread.






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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
    Originally posted by DJ Ran
    Seems to me if creative can't find something for the worker to do, then it's creative who should look for a new job, and not the worker.
    I mean, what are they paying creative to do exactly?


No shit. And even if Steiner's only got another 6-12 months left in him, Smackdown could've used another big heel. I'm not a Steiner fan, but he always draws good reactions.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
I believe his contract runs through October of this year.



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Eh, I haven't missed him. Sure he got good reactions....while he was walking to the ring. In the ring, he's so incredibly un-talented that the crowd can't get into anything. And I really don't know how much rub he has left to give. I mean, he WAS teaming with Test when we last saw him.

He'll pop up again when some money-mark tries to get a promotion going, hiring the Bagwells and the Lugers. After seeing his early 90's ringwork, it's a shame to see how he's deteriorated.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.90
Can't say I'll miss him at all. Since Steiner arrived in WWE, he's been my bathroom break. Can't remember even one instant when he had me glued to the set.

When he first came back, there seemed to have been an awful lot of excitement built up around it. Sadly, I don't think his work ever measured up to that excitement.

I'm sure he'll find work if he wants it, or otherwise, I'm pretty sure he's more than ready for a cushy retirement, too. He was great once, but that was a long time ago.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.96
    Originally posted by DJ Ran
    Seems to me if creative can't find something for the worker to do, then it's creative who should look for a new job, and not the worker.



      Completely agree. I'm no fan of Steiner, but there's a lot of guys that I may not personally care for in WWE that can at least be entertaining for a few minutes each week if there were creative people working on the shows that cared beyond "three small storylines and the main event story for the PPV coming up" thinking that prevails most of the time now at WWE.

      Someone should be able to find something for Steiner to do, even if it was just bothering Eric about old WCW days.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.64
I never thought Steiner was a main-eventer(even in WCW), but he's better than Bradshaw.

Also, his political debate with the french guy pretty much ended his career.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.78
The writing staff should be stripped naked andlocked in a room with Bradshaw on Ecstasy.

Big Poppa Pump is not Scott Steiner anymore, but he would be INVALUABLE to Smackdown in some capacity.

POLITICS. How or why, I dunno. But this smells exactly like what it is... bullshit.

I swear the WWE is full of freaking rats and weasels.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.55
    Originally posted by Juggalo101
    I never thought Steiner was a main-eventer(even in WCW), but he's better than Bradshaw.

    Also, his political debate with the french guy pretty much ended his career.


Couldn't disagree more. Bradshaw is a mediocre wrestler at best, but he's charismatic and has gotten more over every week with his current gimmick. He should, by no means, be main eventing PPVs anytime soon - or probably ever - but he brings so much more to the table than Scott Steiner who's own overness has been plummetting since the new wore off. He was responsible for the worst PPV main events of 2003, his promos are rambling and incoherent and he is, by all accounts, an enormous asshole.


(And, for the record, Steiner's "debate" was with Chris Nowinski.)



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.78
Having a political debate on a wrestling show is ridiculous in and of itself. Then you put Steiner with... Nowinski? Then you let Steiner ramble on about FRANCE? They BURIED the guy on their own, regardless of his ability in the ring or whatnot, they buried this guy. Vince is a sick fuck.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I guess he is off to NWA-TNA.
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