**I apologize if this is a dumb thread, but I was really interested. Delete if necessary**
So, I've never been like a mega uber-fan of Star Wars, but I have to say that I am getting really psyched up to see Ep III, as I am sure many of you are, too.
I was wondering though, for those of you old enough...(lo, I am still a relative youth) and saw all or parts of the original trilogy when it first came out I have a question...
**SPOILERS**(just in case there is anyone who has not seen the movies, sorry I don't know how to HTML it)...
What was the theater like when Darth Vader picked up the Emperor and threw him into the reactor shaft in ROTJ? Was there clapping?, shock?, awe even? I mean, I am sure we've all seen movies that have been really captivating and when something that monumental happens you go crazy.
So yea, thanks...and if anyone has any good memories...that'd be cool to share, too.
By the way, anyone pull a Homer Simpson and let slip that Vader was Luke's father after they walked out of TESB?
(edited by Whattaburger on 8.5.05 2301) Mmmmm...now that is a tasty burger!
We waited in line for 8 HOURS to see Empire Strikes Back and the people in the showing before us walked out and a guy walks by us and said "Darth Vader is Lukes dad" and my father punched the guy square in the face, and everyone in line behind us started cheering.
Originally posted by OzzysunWe waited in line for 8 HOURS to see Empire Strikes Back and the people in the showing before us walked out and a guy walks by us and said "Darth Vader is Lukes dad" and my father punched the guy square in the face, and everyone in line behind us started cheering.
That is awesome! I was really young for ROTJ, but I remember crying and hiding under the seat during the rancor scene.
The thing I remember most is being 7 years old when Empire came out and asking my Dad on the way out of the theater, "He can't REALLY be his father, can he?". And I was a feisty little bugger at the time. Someone would have absolutely gotten their kneecap rearranged had they ruined the swerve.
I also remember being about 4-5 years old and most of the alien life forms on Tattoine (i.e. Jawas, Sand People, and the whole f'n bar) creeping me out, yet Chewie I was OK with.
(edited by Blanket Jackson on 9.5.05 1542) "Meet the kite-eating tree you son of a bitch!"
From the original, I most remember listening to the record of the soundtrack - one of the all time greatest theme music ever.
Then, about a year before TESB, a friend had a tee shirt that said "Vader Lives" - I was soo jealous. We heard about Mark Hamil's car crash and new face, so anticipation of how they'd handle that was high. I mostly remember thinking Yoda was so cool.
For ROTJ, yes, the whole theater cheered when Vader returned to the good side. I mostly remembered thinking I want to be Jabba, and have a half-naked princess on a leash. If you have to die, that's a heck of a way to go... We also thought that ROTJ was brought way down by the Ewoks, and wondered why the heck they all kept speeding through the forest instead flying of over the trees.
None of us liked the brother-sister relationship, since it meant the whole first movie was incestuous and creepy. Especially the promo movie poster.
For me, Darth Lucas destroyed the series with JarJar, made it worse with fight scenes involving Yoda and a light sabre, so I am not that thrilled about the final installment. I will likely wait for the DVD come Christmastime.
For great wow swerve moments in a theatre, the ending to the original "Planet of the Apes" tops them all for me.
Originally posted by WhattaburgerWhat was the theater like when Darth Vader picked up the Emperor and threw him into the reactor shaft in ROTJ? Was there clapping?, shock?, awe even? I mean, I am sure we've all seen movies that have been really captivating and when something that monumental happens you go crazy.
I was 11 when Return was released, and I clearly remember people of all ages clapping. The thing about Vader chucking the Emperor is that it takes so long to happen; people were getting a little bored waiting for it. The women in the audience cheered mightily and louder when Leia killed Jabba. It was no contest.
I remember having no idea about Vader's connection to Luke when I saw Empire. But I do remember standing in the lobby, waiting to see it, and people walking out of the theatre before the previous screening ended. I could hear the sound effects, and I was anxiou at the thought of having something spoiled that way.
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I was four or five when I saw Star Wars at the drive in. I don't remember what it played with, but I remember staying up and watching the whole movie. The coolest thing I'd ever seen in my life was Han showing up to save Luke from Vader. "You're all clear kid, now let's blow this thing and go home!"
I was eight when I saw The Empire Strikes Back. My dad took me a few days after it opened. It's been one of my favorite movies ever since. I remember being shocked when Vader revealed the truth to Luke, but that didn't affect me as much as Han being captured and taken away. I didn't care about the Luke/Vader connection, I wanted to know when the hell they were gonna rescue Han. Haha, I still break out Luke's greatest line when somebody gives me any sort of bad news. It works in any situation:
"What, my credit card has been rejected? No. That's not true. That's impossible!"
"We're out of Heineken? No. That's not true. That's impossible!"
As far as Jedi goes, it was disappointing because after all the great battles in the series, the end comes down to a bunch of muppets and gay aliens. When I throw in ROTJ, I watch up until Luke kills the rancor and then I'll fast forward to the scene where he catches up and they plan the assault on the new Death Star. I can't stand the scenes with Yoda, though I can enjoy the fact that we see Boba Fett get killed by a blind Han Solo. More proof that the guy is worthless, just like his dad who provided the genetic material to put together the most incompetent army ever seen.
These days I can't watch ROTJ without thinking, "but Lando got to fly the Millenium Falcon..." It's not a horrible movie, it's just a bad Star Wars movie. It was cool seeing Luke redeem Vader, even if the unmasked Anakin looks like Humpty Dumpty. Hopefully ROTS is good and then the series will be 3-3...
I'm secure enough in my masculinity to admit the following: my buddies and I thought the Ewoks kicked ass, initially. If you had the Ewok Village playset, you instantly had 100 cool points. Until fifth grade (fall 1984) when that AWFUL Ewok TV movie premiered. After that, we all hated the fucking Ewoks.
I don't remember the audience cheering when Vader flung the Emperor... but I remember sitting down front and not hearing ANYcrowd reaction, due to the movie sound. For the most part, the significance of the Emperor wasn't well known. Most people (i.e: non-hardcore fans) had no idea who he was. Everyone thought Vader was the big baddie. So why should we care when he tosses some old craggly slow-talking dweeb in a bathrobe down a pit?
Conversely, I took my folks out to see "Phantom Menace" when it opened. It was sort of a payback for when they took me out to see Star Wars as a rugrat. As soon as the lights went down, people started screaming. When the previews ended and the actual movie started, they went nuts--banging chairs and hollering. One of the worst movie-going experiences I had ever witnessed.
Originally posted by too-old-nowbr>We also thought that ROTJ was brought way down by the Ewoks, and wondered why the heck they all kept speeding through the forest instead flying of over the trees.
I was reading databank profile on the Star Wars website and I think the original idea was it to be an army of Wookies...but Lucas didn't really like the idea too much so he played around with the Wookie idea and shrunk the characters down...
Ewok, I imagine, is simply a derivative of Wookie.
Originally posted by LeroyThe rumor I heard was Lucas wanted some "primitive" race to be crucial in defeating the Empire, and his original idea was for that race to be Wookies.
Through the course of the movies, Chewbaca ended up being much more sophisticated than Lucas initially anticipated, so he opted to go with a whole other group - Ewoks (Wookie-lite).
Not sure how true that is, but it seems to make some sense.
Lucas says as much during the RotJ DVD commentary.
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Ah, yes, the days when I was...not so old.
* Receiving the X-Wing and Millennium Falcon toys in successive years...beyond awesome.
* R2-D2 action figure...game, set, match.
* Going on vacation in 1983: stopping at then-Mariott's Great America in Gurnee, IL; then on to Memphis, TN, where my late step-grandfather (an old-school Packer fan) took us to see Jedi's premiere...then coming home to Titletown and seeing on the 10p news that Jedi was opening soon in Green Bay, and chuckling that I'd beaten most of the city to the punch.
* Oh, yeah...bugging the parents every time Star Wars came on TV. I'd seen it 30-odd times on the small screen at some point in my young life.
Well, when I was a kid, we lived in Navy Housing in Mt Clemens Michigan. All base theaters are dual purpose and have a stage that they can use for presentations or briefings, etc. ANYHOW they oversold the theater for the showing of Star Wars, so the manager came around and took the thirty shortest kids (me included) and let us sit on the stage to watch the movie. So, my initial screening of Star Wars was with the screen about 7 feet in front of me. It was like IMAX before they had IMAX. At the final scene where the Death Star gets blown to pieces, I get so excited, I have an asthma attack. So, Star Wars always reminds me of having to go to the doctor at 11pm, getting a breathing treatment from the doctor and being so excited I threw up popcorn and root beer all over the doc.
The New Yorker gave this a relatively positive review -- Anderson's now an established "darling." The film is ho-hum. Anderson needs to break out of his teenage sensibility and mature to real film-making.