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Since: 4.1.02 From: Dorchester, Ontario
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| #1 Posted on 21.8.03 1530.39 | Instant Rating: 5.54 | Click Here (story.news.yahoo.com)
My favourite part is how his parents are suing the kid that put the tape on-line. High-larious.
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| #2 Posted on 22.8.03 0841.15 | That's pretty damn funny. The first 40 seconds or so I thought, "Dang, he's pretty good with that thing," but then he starts adding in kicks and looks like Jack Black just going SPASTIC. It's like he was doing shots during the pauses.
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| #3 Posted on 22.8.03 0918.44 | I just had to reply to this because of my user icon.
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| #4 Posted on 22.8.03 0938.08 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | Rule one of maintaining privacy: if you want something to remain private, DON'T VIDEOTAPE IT, even if it's just for personal viewing. If Ghyslain thinks that his newfound fame is awful, he should call up Libby Hoeler and see how she's doing these days. (If you don't know who Libby is, try Google, and ask yer mum if you're under 18 before you watch her videos.)
I don't know much about Canadian law, as to how concepts like "defamation of character" are handled there. That said, there's a very simple question to be answered... The pranksters didn't mug Ghyslain or break into his locker or house to obtain the tape; they found it in a school cabinet. Was the tape still (legally) Ghyslain's private property at that point, when it had been left unattended?
If it was, it's a slam-dunk for the plaintiff. If not, things get a lot more complicated.
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Since: 7.1.02 From: Birmingham, AL
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| #5 Posted on 22.8.03 1244.58 | I just wished the kid could take it the right way. Many people would kill for the type of fame this guy has achieved. The film is funny, and he should play it as "Everybody laughs because I am a comedic genius!" instead of "Everybody laughs at me because I am a big worthless dork.". I mean, I could easily see Jack Black, or back in the day Chris Farley, pulling off a similar skit or joke. And it's clear that many people don't have any ill-will toward him, they bought him a replacement for his stolen whatchyoucallit, and for goodness sake, some people are even trying to get him into the next Star Wars movie (not that it's likely, but stranger things have happened).
He should embrace his popularity, or at least he shouldn't be ashamed of it. It would make it a lot easier on himself.
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| #6 Posted on 22.8.03 1251.47 |
Originally posted by vsp Rule one of maintaining privacy: if you want something to remain private, DON'T VIDEOTAPE IT, even if it's just for personal viewing. If Ghyslain thinks that his newfound fame is awful, he should call up Libby Hoeler and see how she's doing these days. (If you don't know who Libby is, try Google, and ask yer mum if you're under 18 before you watch her videos
Just to play Devil's Advocate here, he had to videotape it. In order to get the desired effect of glowing blades, he has to swing around a broomstick or a bo of some sort and then add the effects in post-production.
It's not like I've done it before or anything. | vsp
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Since: 3.1.02 From: Philly
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| #7 Posted on 22.8.03 1259.58 | Instant Rating: 0.00 |
Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID Just to play Devil's Advocate here, he had to videotape it. In order to get the desired effect of glowing blades, he has to swing around a broomstick or a bo of some sort and then add the effects in post-production.
It's not like I've done it before or anything.
All right -- DON'T VIDEOTAPE IT AND FAIL TO ERASE THE TAPE WHEN YOU'RE DONE.
(what, doesn't EVERYONE have glowing broomsticks around the house?)
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Since: 23.1.02 From: Phoenix, AZ
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| #8 Posted on 22.8.03 1347.44 | He didn't do the star wars stuff. Other people took the video, cut it down, and added that in.
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Since: 22.8.02 From: Between thought and Reality, TZ
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| #9 Posted on 22.8.03 1554.34 | Boy, is that kid a turd burglar.
(sorry, sorry. I had to.)
Fallin back on dat ass with a hellified gangsta lean, gettin funky on the mike like an old batch of collard greens, its the CapitalSohyesNpressiondoubleOP, DOdoubleGY DOdoubleG you see.
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Since: 2.7.02 From: Jaaaaamacia Mon, No Problem.
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| #10 Posted on 23.8.03 1357.29 |
Originally posted by ges7184 I just wished the kid could take it the right way. Many people would kill for the type of fame this guy has achieved. The film is funny, and he should play it as "Everybody laughs because I am a comedic genius!" instead of "Everybody laughs at me because I am a big worthless dork.". I mean, I could easily see Jack Black, or back in the day Chris Farley, pulling off a similar skit or joke. And it's clear that many people don't have any ill-will toward him, they bought him a replacement for his stolen whatchyoucallit, and for goodness sake, some people are even trying to get him into the next Star Wars movie (not that it's likely, but stranger things have happened).
He should embrace his popularity, or at least he shouldn't be ashamed of it. It would make it a lot easier on himself.
Exactly, this kid had a one way ticket out of dorksville and he blew it. He could make money by showing up at conventions, have his own booth and sign stuff. Hell, he could have his pick of trekkie(sic?) chicks or star wars groupies, alot of top models were ugly dorks in high school so I'd guess that some of the convention girls are lookers(even though their dorks), they gotta have hot Buffy fans there. If the kid and family had fun with it I wouldn't even have thought of him as a loser, like ges7184 said I saw a Jack Black or John Candy type just joking around.
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| #11 Posted on 23.8.03 1603.53 | Instant Rating: 2.10 | Star Wars Kid Wants His Life Back
How can you get something back that you never had? I want to sue the kid for having to hear about his fat ass everyday.
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| #12 Posted on 25.8.03 1341.27 |
Originally posted by vsp Rule one of maintaining privacy: if you want something to remain private, DON'T VIDEOTAPE IT, even if it's just for personal viewing. If Ghyslain thinks that his newfound fame is awful, he should call up Libby Hoeler and see how she's doing these days. (If you don't know who Libby is, try Google, and ask yer mum if you're under 18 before you watch her videos.)
I don't know much about Canadian law, as to how concepts like "defamation of character" are handled there. That said, there's a very simple question to be answered... The pranksters didn't mug Ghyslain or break into his locker or house to obtain the tape; they found it in a school cabinet. Was the tape still (legally) Ghyslain's private property at that point, when it had been left unattended?
If it was, it's a slam-dunk for the plaintiff. If not, things get a lot more complicated.
Who is Libby Hoeler? | vsp
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Since: 3.1.02 From: Philly
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| #13 Posted on 25.8.03 1418.41 | Instant Rating: 0.00 |
Originally posted by wordlife
Originally posted by vsp Rule one of maintaining privacy: if you want something to remain private, DON'T VIDEOTAPE IT, even if it's just for personal viewing. If Ghyslain thinks that his newfound fame is awful, he should call up Libby Hoeler and see how she's doing these days. (If you don't know who Libby is, try Google, and ask yer mum if you're under 18 before you watch her videos.)
Who is Libby Hoeler?
Okay, some people can't handle Google searches. Here's a brief summary:
* Libby and unnamed boyfriend (we'll call him Spud) are high-school sweethearts. * Libby goes to one college, Spud goes to another. * Libby misses Spud. * Libby gets a video camera, records herself performing very steamy acts set to music, and sends the resulting video files to Spud at intervals as "I miss you" presents. (Hey, it beats a Hallmark card.) * Libby subsequently hooks up with someone else, as separated high-school sweethearts are wont to do. * Spud finds out and gets angry. * Spud leaks the video files onto the Internet with Libby's name and dorm address on them. * Mass hysteria ensues.
Variations of the story: her name has been reported as Elizabeth (Libby) Hoeler, Hoeller and Heller. Spud may have put the files on peer-to-peer personally, may have mailed them to his friends (who put them on p2p), or may have accidentally left them in a Scour-accessible directory from which others retrieved them.
Regardless, the videos exist, and until someone at Snopes covers the sordid tale in detail, that's the generally-accepted version. The clips are clearly amateur in nature -- the camera is either a webcam or a handheld camera sitting on a desk, there are no porn-site references or contact information included, and there have been no follow-ups over the years (had it been a for-profit operation, Libby would definitely have cashed in on her Internet notoriety).
The moral of the story is twofold: * Don't videotape yourself if you don't care if the entire world ends up seeing it. * Where the hell were girls like Libby when _I_ was in high school? All I ever got from a faraway girlfriend was a series of letters. 
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Since: 3.1.02 From: GA in person, NJ in heart
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| #14 Posted on 26.8.03 0020.57 | For everyone saying that the kid should have parlayed this into his ticket out of dork-dom, if you were fifteen and swinging a *lightsaber* around in the AV room, would you have the wherewithal to spin the events positively? Odds are this kid's world isn't much bigger than his highschool, and as much as there might be the opportunity for him to capitalize off this *fame*, he probably can't make it to the nearest Trek convention. Besides, I'm sure the rest of the kids at school have decided on a daily basis how this event will shape his life.
Then again, the one time I was *stupid* enough to play pretend in public, I was in first grade and got caught only by a teacher. Fifteen puts him at what? Freshman or sophomore in high school? He should have known better. I'd ask if the kid has any mental conditions, but I'm sure there's stuff I've done at fifteen or older that would prompt others to question my sanity.
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