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rlbehan
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Since: 6.7.02
From: Albany

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#21 Posted on
I am happy that the idea of having MORE ppv's has gone by the wayside. I was wondering when they would come to their senses, and figured it would take a few failed ones to get it through their heads that there is a limit to what we will buy. As for this idea, I kind of like it. It continues to sell the split between the two shows, and it gives new talent a showcase to shine. Lets face it, it is somewhat of a risk, because even with a full card from both shows to work with, there have been PPV's which were only slightly different than RAW or Smackdown. Thats the problem when you try to do it month after month. Now, they have the chance to really make the big four special, and if they do it right, can perhaps send the buyrates far higher for those shows. The 4 "individual shows" for each? Hard to say, but sometimes less is more.
sentonBOMB
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Since: 25.11.02
From: Jersey

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#22 Posted on

    Originally posted by dMr
    Personally I've always thought the feud building problem has been down to the time between shows rather than the reduced number of shows between ppv's.

    A storyline would have to be pretty gripping to have most casual fans still be interested enough to tune in a whole week later.



every other tv show, network or cable, is up against the same thing, and they seem to be able to handle it okay.
Simba
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Since: 7.8.02
From: Boston, MA

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.20
I think the flipside to the "giving other guys a chance to shine" argument is that some of the top guys on either show could use every advantage to keep their spot. I realize this won't apply in every case, but it certainly seems like there would be an increase with less PPV money to go around.
Backstage politics aside, this could keep the main event scene on both shows more stagnant than ever.



I wish they made Advent calendars for WrestleMania, although I'd skip the Mark Henry day.
sergeial
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Since: 27.2.02
From: Minneapolis

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#24 Posted on
I decided to give some thought to how the schedule might look based on what we know, and I thought I'd share that with you. We'll see if I can get a table to work this time...

--------------Joint-----------------Raw------------------SD!
June-------------------------Renamed PPV
July-----------------------------------------------Vengeance
Aug-------SummerSlam
Sep---------------------------Unforgiven
Oct------------------------------------------------No Mercy
Nov------Survivor Series
Dec---------------------------Armageddon
Jan------Royal Rumble
Feb-----------------------------------------------No Way Out
Mar------Wrestlemania
Apr----------------------------Backlash!
May----------------------------------------------Judgment Day

When I first heard the announcement that they would scrap KOR and that Rumble would be interpromotional, I wished it was the other way around. KOR seems to lend itself to interpromotional fueds. I figured Rumble could choose SD!s number one contender, and Raw could have their own gimmick match at the Feb PPV for their #1 contender. Then it occured to me that they need the depth of an interpromotional roster to fill all the spots in the Rumble and also put together the rest of the card. Oh, well.

Maybe they could make one of the joint PPVs a champion vs champion deal. Summerslam would be good for this, I think.

I also think it would be cool for each brand to promote one of their PPVs as their brand's premiere showcase for the year. Revive Starrcade perhaps?

sergei



"A true champion knows how to handle adversity."-- Kurt Angle
Pool-Boy
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Since: 1.8.02
From: Huntington Beach, CA

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#25 Posted on
If anything, I expect that splitting the PPVS will lead to fewer injuries in the long run. You have that many fewer shows where you are expecting your workers to "give it all" (meaning wicked bumps, multi-germans, etc), and that could go a long way. In addition, since there is not such a rush to build up a feud to PPV levels, they can take more time to build feuds properly.

And, I am sorry, splitting the PPVs is also going to give more PPV time to guys like the Hurricane, Matt Hardy and the Cruiserweights, so I am not going to complain one bit. I, for one, get sick of seeing only the TOP TOP guys at the PPV, when there are other, equally as entertaining guys on the roster. It will also be a real boost to the women's division- now that they have the WORKERS to pull off more than one feud at once (why can't we have a Molly/Jazz and a Trish/Victoria feud at once?), we might see even more advancement in that division... which at this point is a very good thing...




Jakegnosis
Morcilla








Since: 26.7.02
From: Maine

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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91
I think splitting the PPVs is a great idea, and, if they're going to run with the split rosters for the forseeable future, the only way to go. They wouldn't have to stuff so much shit into each PPV, and I think seeing guys that aren't big draws on PPV would be fine, as it would give them the chance to shine and become bigger draws.

Also, bringing a secondary belt onto each show would be great. I really miss the little straps, as the midcard has nothing to fight over these days. I have created a hypothetical card for Backlash as a RAW PPV and Judgment Day as a Smackdown! PPV, and they don't look too bad. I've taken liberties with who will hold the championships and added the IC belt to RAW and the TV title to Smackdown! I also switched Stone Cold to Smackdown and had Kevin Nash go to Smackdown! to even out the big-name power a little. I also put a reformed APA in the Smackdown! tag division, as that part of the show would be weak with Benoit and Eddie Guerrero in singles competition.

WWE RAW Backlash PPV

Booker T(C) vs. Triple H (World Heavyweight Title)

Chris Jericho (C) vs. Rob Van Dam (Intercontinental Title)

The Rock vs. Kane vs. HBK (#1 Contender's Match)

The Dudley Boyz vs. Regal & Storm (Tag Team Titles)

Trish (C) vs. Victoria (Women's Title)

Goldust vs. Ric Flair

Scott Steiner vs. Chief Morley

The Hurricane vs. Jeff Hardy (Curtain Jerker)

WWE Smackdown! Judgment Day PPV

Brock Lesnar(C) vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin (WWE Title)

Chris Benoit vs. Eddie Guerrero (#1 Contender's Match)

Rhyno(C) vs. Nathan Jones(TV Title)

Kevin Nash vs. Undertaker

Matt Hardy(C) vs. Rey Mysterio (Cruiserweight Title)

Holk Hogan vs. Big Show

Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin(C) vs. APA (Tag Team Titles)

John Cena vs. Chavo Guerrero (Curtain jerker)


Those cards look PPV-able to me. I don't get Smackdown on my TV, so my card for their PPV might be kind of fucked up. I don't know.

Anyway, I think the split PPV idea could pay off, and I would love to see angles that aren't hot-shotted and then dropped after three weeks.



Moo hoo ha ha.

Rangers lead the way
sergeial
Boerewors








Since: 27.2.02
From: Minneapolis

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#27 Posted on
Hey, I hate it when I put a lot of thought and work into a post and it gets ignored, so I just thought I'd say -- great post man, I agree completely. From what I've heard, I don't think this will actually happen till summer, though.

It should be interesting to see lower-card fueds actually getting a PPV blow-off from time to time again. It's been a while.

I think they should lower the price of the brand specific PPVs and raise the price of the mixed PPVs. It would put over how big of a deal the big four are, and help overcome any sticker-shock for a PPV that seems less packed with talent than before.

sergei



"A true champion knows how to handle adversity."-- Kurt Angle
Jakegnosis
Morcilla








Since: 26.7.02
From: Maine

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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91
Hey, thanks, man.

I can't believe they're talking about dropping KotR, personally. It was always my favorite PPV next to 'Mania. I always thought Survivor Series was the weak sister of the "Big 5." I figured if they'd drop anything, it would be that. Survivor Series is totally redundant to me.



Moo hoo ha ha.

Rangers lead the way
sergeial
Boerewors








Since: 27.2.02
From: Minneapolis

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#29 Posted on
Maybe they plan to really revive the gimmick, make a Raw/SD! ten-man elimination match the main event. The elimination chamber belongs on a Raw-specific PPV anyway.

Actually, that gives me an idea. I hate the idea of having a mixed Rumble match, and whichever brand doesn't win has to throw together an impromptu #1 contenders match like this year.

Instead, the Raw brand could have the elimination chamber as their match for #1 contender at WM, and make it the main event of Armageddon. Then on the Raw before the Rumble PPV, they have an over-the-top-rope challenge, and the winner gets a spot in the Rumble match, which is for a shot at the SD! title at WM, so the one wrestler from Raw also has free-agency on the line. The SD! side provides the other 29 competitors, and Raw provides most of the rest of the card for the Rumble PPV, to allow SD! the leeway to put that many wrestlers into the Rumble without scraping the bottom of the barrel.

sergei



"A true champion knows how to deal with adversity."-- Kurt Angle
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