Freeway, thanks for the history recap. I read Amazing Spider-man during the Green Goblin/Gwen Stacy deaths (didn't she get dropped off a bridge?) I think Harry Osborn was just coming down from tripping the light fantastic.
After Ned Leeds was revealed to be Hobgoblin, didn't he or someone else basically get possessed by a demon, turning the Hobgoblin into an ultra-creepy baddie?
(Other notable Hobgoblin moments include that time he was searching for Spiderman, and he's flying through the city. All of a sudden, Hobby gets nailed by bullets and flies off. The shooter was the Punisher. Oh yeah, first time I was introduced to him.)
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Macendale was the Hobgoblin who was part demon. He made a deal with the demon lord N'astirh in order to gain power, but in an ironic twist, the power was granted in the form of the demon that possessed him.
Depends on who you ask about Gwen getting dropped. Goblin threw her off the Brookyln Bridge, but Spidey webbed her before she hit the ground. Unfortuantly, she died of shock from the fall. However, according Alex Ross' Marvel book, excellent book by the way, Spidey's webbing catches her by the neck and then when he pulls her up from the quick fall, it kills her. I believe in the first happening since Stan has said it numerous times thats what happened, because they looked it up in medical journals to make sure someone could die due to shock. Ross is a great artist, but sometimes his revisionism gets in the way of his writing.
Originally posted by Tenken347Macendale was the Hobgoblin who was part demon. He made a deal with the demon lord N'strith(sp?) in order to gain power, but in an ironic twist, the power was granted in the form of the demon that possessed him.
There was also the Demogoblin, which was created during one of those expensive (for the consumers) Marvel crossovers that created a whole new crop of villains. I believe that it was the result of the splitting of the human Hobgoblin and the demonic presence or something like that (it's been awhile if you can't tell).
Personally, I thought the movie was not that great. Now, I never saw Spiderman 1 or read the comic book, so maybe I didn't "get" certain parts. First of all, I thought the acting (especially by Maguire, and Dunst in some parts) were not good. Tobey looked like he was trying out for a part in "Dude, Where's My Car 2"- he just had this blank, stoner look on his face.
Secondly, I thought some of the dialogue was cheesy, corny, whatever you call it. Thirdly, the plot (in some parts) was pretty predictable. In some other parts, it surprised though.
As for what was good....I liked the special effects. And the newspaper guy (Parker's boss) was my favorite character.
There was one line that was particularly hokey and should have at least been worded differently (even though it was a throwaway line), and that was during the scene where Harry and Peter/Spidey are having the face-off in the penthouse right after Spidey has been unmasked and somewhere in there James Franco takes a dramatic pause and goes "You killed my father" and then takes another pause.
I'll give you three guesses what line popped into my head at that instant and that I could also hear people in my row saying out loud 0.1 seconds later and the first two guesses don't count.
I thought Tody did a great job as Peter, because Peter during this period of his lifem he is blank. He knows everything is spinning out of control and that his only release being Spiderman is causing it. He is basically in chaos and doesn't know how to deal with it.
Originally posted by A FanI thought Tody did a great job as Peter, because Peter during this period of his lifem he is blank. He knows everything is spinning out of control and that his only release being Spiderman is causing it. He is basically in chaos and doesn't know how to deal with it.
I haven't seen the second yet, but this is the feeling I got from the first one. He's adjusting to his newfound powers and responsibilities.
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At least Michael Buble's new version of the Spider-man theme played during the credits was awesome. Much more awesome than the shit Aerosmith recorded for the 1st and 2nd movie respectively. Anyone care to tell me why Buble's Spider-man song is not on the soundtrack album?
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