Originally posted by PalpatineWThis is the first time the Sox have gone to the ALCS in back to back years since I believe the early 1900's.
Make that ever. Considering there was no ALCS before 1969, I think that's a safe bet :)
Heh... thanks. I think I was parroting that from the guys at Fox or something. A quick check at baseball-reference.com shows that the Sox were the Wild Card winners in '98-'99, went to the Series '15'-'16, won the '03 series and then won the AL in '04. So, back-to-back postseason appearances are pretty rare in these parts.
Guys, it was a fluke last night. The Yankees are in Pedro's head and won't leave. Even if they do win tonight, they still have to go back and try to win game 6 and 7 in the Bronx withouth Pedro and Schilling. Trust me, you don't want Schilling back, it will be another disaster for you.
Depends on who they pitch in game 7. Which brings me to my next question: who will the Sox pitch in game 7? Arroyo got lit up. Wakefield has been coming in from the pen. Pedro starts tonight, Schilling tomorrow. Do they really want to risk going with Lowe in the Bronx? The fact that they don't have an off day really hurts them.
If by some miracle Schilling can go more than 7 innings, they would be in good shape, bullpen-wise, for a possible game 7. But if Schilling goes down early again and the pen has to come to the rescue, whoever the game 7 starter is going to be will be left out to dry.
I'm getting ahead of myself here, but at least the series is interesting again.
Edited: The Yankees won't be in Pedro's head as long as he brings his dwarf with him. And they will have the services of Schilling in the Bronx for game 6, unless I forgot how to count. Let's see... Tonight's game 5 and Pedro's pitching. Tomorrow's game 6 and Schilling's pitching. 6 comes after 5 so yup, the Sox will have Schilling's services in the Bronx.
(edited by Kidbrooklyn on 18.10.04 0952) "What you don't understand, you can make mean anything." -Palahniuk
Historically, Pedro pitches far better against the Yankees at the Stadium than at Fenway. The big question is whether the anal retentive Mussina gets thrown off by pitching on an extra days rest. With both teams bullpens shot, this could be a case where both pitchers could be left out to die. Should a Game 6 occur, the forecast is rain tapering to drizzle on Tuesday night, with both managers probably praying for a postponement to get their pens back into shape. Right now, winning the series should not be the focus. The only focus now is that they don't clinch at Fenway. Accomplish that, and it's a 2 game season.
Abandon Ship. Abandon Ship. Forget the women and children, get me a lifeboat.
Originally posted by KidbrooklynThe Yankees won't be in Pedro's head as long as he brings his dwarf with him.
Sentences like this are why I love baseball.
“Back in 2000 a Republican friend warned me that if I voted for Al Gore and he won, the stock market would tank, we'd lose millions of jobs, and our military would be totally overstretched. You know what? I did vote for Gore, he did win, and I'll be damned if all those things didn't come true!" -- James Carville
Originally posted by GrimisAnybody else get the feeling the Red Sox will storm back to tie the series, then lose 14-0 in game 7?
Of course this will be the way it goes down. The Sox must lose in the most bitter way possible. Coming back from an insurmountable 3-0 series deficit only to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in Game 7 in the Bronx. It is how it must be written.
Originally posted by redsoxnationThe big question is whether the anal retentive Mussina gets thrown off by pitching on an extra days rest.
I supposed he somewhat disproved that in game one of this series, which was a full week after he pitched game one against Minnesota...and before that, he had pitched six days prior, on the 29th, in the first game of the regular season doubleheader against Minnesota.
"Toby...Toby...Toby... Toby Wong...Toby Wong...Toby Chung...fuckin Charlie Chan."
Schilling vs. Lieber for Game 6. But what about the bullpens?
Red Sox: Foulke for 1 Arroyo Leskanic Mendoza Lowe? Myers?
I can't imagine Embree or Timlin would be available, but Wakefield should be able to give us three if we need it. ;-)
Yankees: Rivera for 1 Vasquez Brown Heredia Hernandez? Quantrill? Sturtze?
Originally posted by DEAN~!- Booker T stands like a statue in the ring. Paul London runs around the ring, bouncing off the ropes, jumps up and sticks his knees around Booker T ears and Powerbombs himself. London gets up and takes Booker T's hand and balls it up into a fist. He then extends Booker T's arm before hitting the ropes and smashing nose first into Booker T's fist. Paul, bleeding profusely, climbs onto Booker T's shoulders and dives into the second row- landing shoulder first onto the fixed chairs, getting more hardway color from his quickly sweeling upper lip. London runs into the ring and opens up Booker T's fist and raises it up to his face, as if Booker T was staring into his own hand. London when dives over the turnbuckle face first into the Spanish Announcers table. After the countout, London comes back into the ring and lays Booker T down on the ground while bending Booker's arms and legs and then spins him around. We go to a commercial for those burning Trojan condoms.
Because I haven't said it recently: God Bless the remote control. Two great games going on simultaneously. If you don't love baseball after today, there is no hope for you. I guess signing Ortiz to that extension in May was a pretty good idea. With both teams bullpens being shot, would anyone be surprised if Francona and Torre joined together for a rain dance? If he is healthy enough to take the ball in Game 6, Schilling better realize that means he's healthy enough to get into the 8th. No excuses. Loved the Who's Your Dealer chant at Mr. Integrity Sheffield. If this series goes 7 and with the state of the bullpens, is it safe to presume Mussina and Martinez will be in the closers role? People can complain about the Red Sox and Yankees getting attention etc., but at least they generally give you excitement. And, considering he probably is the most decent guy to play for the Red Sox in years, at least Wakefield didn't get saddled with ending the season 2 straight years. Funny what a guy with speed can do on the bases. Is this something new in baseball, as I'm not familiar with runners being fast.
(edited by redsoxnation on 18.10.04 2338) Abandon Ship. Abandon Ship. Forget the women and children, get me a lifeboat.
Originally posted by redsoxnationBecause I haven't said it recently: God Bless the remote control. Two great games going on simultaneously. If you don't love baseball after today, there is no hope for you.
Remote control? He!!, I had three TVs going so I could watch both baseball games, plus MNF. Heaven!
Well I will admit that I don't understand all the issues, but I thought that the sides were so far apart that there really isn't nothing to talk about until one side moves or the other. Aren't the players dead-set against revenue-sharing and salary caps?...