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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.47
For the first episode of the season, much better than previous years.
Thought perhaps they could have done a segment or 2 with Carmine before he had the stroke instead of hot-shotting it, but still an interesting development.
I'm sure many estranged women would feel safe with their separated husband outside with a high powered rifle at night. Also, were they foreshadowing with the hand-grenade?
I guess since they are teasing it so much the Czech will come back to haunt them soon.
Waiter deserved to be whacked. Following people into a parking lot never leads to good.




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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.07
The waiter thing was cute, but it seems like it would draw a lot of heat on the big ticket mafia table he was just waiting on. I guess it served it's purpose of getting Pauley and Chris on the same page again.


It'll be interesting to see how or if Tony can keep everything from falling apart this year.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.59
The Maniac Says:    I think Tony is a little sappy with the Doc. He really does need to see her professionally. Pauly needs to be whacked and Chris needs to be the trigger man. Carmela needs to get laid and give Tong his divorce papers. Lets hope these ex prison wise guys can breath some new life into the show, because last years the story was a bit lame.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.23
Subtle things that I really enjoyed:

The opening scene--poll unkempt, paper, but no Tony in boxers, Meadow running it over, AJ's simmering anger with Carmella

They had Tony enter the scene in the background of foreground conversations/actions, usually silhouetted.

He never drinks Carmella's coffee anymore (since its what she did with Furio) and neither does the little troll he sends over.

Paulie and Christopher actually making up after their run-in with the waiter.

And, of course, there is the first animal to visit and like the house since the pilot and first season. Tony doesn't want to kill the bear as much as see what its doing on his property.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.28
It was funny to see AJ act so defient towards Carmella and then screaming "Mommy! MOMMY!" when the bear was around two seconds later.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.13
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    For the first episode of the season, much better than previous years
    Also, were they foreshadowing with the hand-grenade?
    I guess since they are teasing it so much the Czech will come back to haunt them soon.
    Waiter deserved to be whacked. Following people into a parking lot never leads to good.



I couldn't agree with you more, rsn. This year is already off to a much more exciting start than the last entire season (ok, 'cept maybe when Ralphie got whacked, THAT was pretty exciting!). I was wondering the same thing about the hand-grenade...what was that all about?? We'll have to wait and see, I guess :-)

I think the waiter getting wacked (hopefully) just shows you that the storyline is going back to its rough mafia roots rather than the "Soprano immediate family focus" it had last year, yet it is still further developing the interpersonal relationships with all the characters. I'm anxious to see where they take Anthony Jr's character, as I think I heard he plays a bigger role this year.

All in all, good start to the season...it's about time!







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    Originally posted by DrOp
    Subtle things that I really enjoyed:

    The opening scene--poll unkempt, paper, but no Tony in boxers, Meadow running it over, AJ's simmering anger with Carmella

    They had Tony enter the scene in the background of foreground conversations/actions, usually silhouetted.

    He never drinks Carmella's coffee anymore (since its what she did with Furio) and neither does the little troll he sends over.

    Paulie and Christopher actually making up after their run-in with the waiter.

    And, of course, there is the first animal to visit and like the house since the pilot and first season. Tony doesn't want to kill the bear as much as see what its doing on his property.


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    Originally posted by DrOp

    He never drinks Carmella's coffee anymore (since its what she did with Furio) and neither does the little troll he sends over.


That's a nice touch to be sure, but I'll hear no talk of Vinnie from "Doogie Howser MD" referred to as a troll.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by DJ Ran
      Originally posted by DrOp

      He never drinks Carmella's coffee anymore (since its what she did with Furio) and neither does the little troll he sends over.


    That's a nice touch to be sure, but I'll hear no talk of Vinnie from "Doogie Howser MD" referred to as a troll.


I KNEW I recognized that dude from something.

As far as the show goes, it was pretty damn entertaining. The whole Class of 2004 angle can open up a lot of possibilities.

I think Buscemi is a great actor, but he just doesn't seem like a gangster to me. Hopefully he can prove me wrong.

Also, I hope they tie up some loose ends. The mention of the Russian in the woods is a good sign. Whatever happened to Raymond Curto talking to the feds?
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The Maniac Says:    blockquote>br>I think Buscemi is a great actor, but he just doesn't seem like a gangster to me. Hopefully he can prove me wrong.


I think Mr. Pink of Reservoir Dogs is a good example of Buscemi's talent as a crime dude.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.77
    Originally posted by Dexley's Midnight Jogger
    It was funny to see AJ act so defient towards Carmella and then screaming "Mommy! MOMMY!" when the bear was around two seconds later.


I have two sons, and that cracked me up no end. There's the essence of a teenager in one scene--and of a mother. Frightening off bears with frying pans is all in a day's work.

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#12 Posted on
    Originally posted by Submit2theXFace




    just shows you that the storyline is going back to its rough mafia roots rather than the "Soprano immediate family focus" it had last year






Um, it was never about just rough mafia roots. The tagline for the show was "If one family doesn't kill him, the other one will." At some point people got these expectations of the show that it is the typical mob show/movie like a Goodfellas.

You've fallen in that same trap, Submit2theXFace, and I'm not sure there's any way out.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.14
    Originally posted by Ukrainian Justice
      Originally posted by Submit2theXFace




      just shows you that the storyline is going back to its rough mafia roots rather than the "Soprano immediate family focus" it had last year




    Um, it was never about just rough mafia roots. The tagline for the show was "If one family doesn't kill him, the other one will." At some point people got these expectations of the show that it is the typical mob show/movie like a Goodfellas.

    You've fallen in that same trap, Submit2theXFace, and I'm not sure there's any way out.


Actually, I was one of the few people I know that actually enjoyed the show last season, though I thought it was slower than the rest. I understand the tagline and premise behind the show. I just thought that the show overall was more off-balance last year, tilting it more towards the family side and that turned some people off.

As far as "falling in the trap", believe it or not I have never even seen Goodfellas, so I don't know that I know what a "typical" mob movie/show is ;-) [I did enjoy the Road to Perdition though--does that count? :-)] I enjoy the Sopranos for the overall show, both sides of the family. I am a big fan of mafia history, so maybe I enjoy watching the interworkings of the mafia more, but I'd miss his family (as in immediate) interactions if they weren't there. Didn't mean to sound so one sided--I just liked it better when the show was a better balance of both.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.45
    Originally posted by Submit2theXFace
      Originally posted by Ukrainian Justice
        Originally posted by Submit2theXFace




        just shows you that the storyline is going back to its rough mafia roots rather than the "Soprano immediate family focus" it had last year




      Um, it was never about just rough mafia roots. The tagline for the show was "If one family doesn't kill him, the other one will." At some point people got these expectations of the show that it is the typical mob show/movie like a Goodfellas.

      You've fallen in that same trap, Submit2theXFace, and I'm not sure there's any way out.


    Actually, I was one of the few people I know that actually enjoyed the show last season, though I thought it was slower than the rest. I understand the tagline and premise behind the show. I just thought that the show overall was more off-balance last year, tilting it more towards the family side and that turned some people off.

    As far as "falling in the trap", believe it or not I have never even seen Goodfellas, so I don't know that I know what a "typical" mob movie/show is ;-) [I did enjoy the Road to Perdition though--does that count? :-)] I enjoy the Sopranos for the overall show, both sides of the family. I am a big fan of mafia history, so maybe I enjoy watching the interworkings of the mafia more, but I'd miss his family (as in immediate) interactions if they weren't there. Didn't mean to sound so one sided--I just liked it better when the show was a better balance of both.





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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.04
Great episode...but a couple of goofs...

1) After whacking the waiter and running, Paulie grabs the money that was given to pay the tab and runs off with Chris. When Paulie calls to smooth things over the next day, he says "we'll split the tab"....but they never paid the tab..they ran off with the $$. So did Paulie mean that he was keeping half of Chris' money? If so, why did Chris end the call with an apology? I'd be pretty pissed if someone ran off with $1200 of mine and then offered to split it later on.

2) Very subtle, but noticeable if you look....at the end of the show, when Tony relieves Benny as "bear watcher", look closely at when Tony opens the door to go outside with the rifle. He momentarily "pulls" the door to open it, then realized he needs to "push" it to get out. He lived in this house for all these years and didn't automatically know he had to push the door to open it? Looks like the editors either didn't notice Gandolfini's gaffe or just left in in there, thinking nobody would notice.

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