The W
Views: 97777355
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Calendar | Color chart | Log in for more!
29.7.14 0803
The W - Current Events & Politics - Someone who _nearly didn't_ know when to stop
This thread has 3 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Pages: 1(2193 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (8 total)
vsp
Andouille








Since: 3.1.02
From: Philly

Since last post: 2947 days
Last activity: 161 days
#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Truck driver arrested for aiming rig at war protestors

(And, no, he wasn't acting out the suddenly-popular fantasy of driving over protestors who were blocking a road; these demonstrators were off to the side, and he deliberately drove onto the sidewalk and charged them.)

He's pretty lucky that he didn't get charged with attempted homicide, frankly. What jail time (if any) he ends up with should be interesting.




"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt
Promote this thread!
redsoxnation
Scrapple








Since: 24.7.02

Since last post: 393 days
Last activity: 393 days
#2 Posted on
He should get jail time for this. If they are not blocking traffic, you can't go after them with a car/truck. If they are blocking traffic, well, your rolling the dice by getting in front of a vehicle.



If it wasn't for war, you wouldn't know what peace was.
Grimis
Scrapple








Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

Since last post: 1183 days
Last activity: 980 days
#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
Yeah....he deserves what he gets.



There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism.
- Theodore Roosevelt, Ocotber 12, 1915
StaggerLee
Scrapple








Since: 3.10.02
From: Right side of the tracks

Since last post: 17 hours
Last activity: 3 hours
AIM:  
Y!:
#4 Posted on
So, if he didnt hurt anybody, but he SCARED them, he gets arrested? But those clowns in San Francisco beat on the police horses and walk free?
vsp
Andouille








Since: 3.1.02
From: Philly

Since last post: 2947 days
Last activity: 161 days
#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00

    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    So, if he didnt hurt anybody, but he SCARED them, he gets arrested?


Um, yes. This is why we have crimes like "ATTEMPTED murder." If you point and fire a deadly weapon at someone, you don't get a free pass just because you miss. I trust that you won't disagree that a truck deliberately aimed at a bystander can be considered to be a deadly weapon.

If you don't agree, try driving your car directly at the next walking policeman you see. When he has you in a hammerlock on the ground and is reading you your rights, explain to him that there's no harm done, because all you did was scare him.



"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt
CRZ
Big Brother
Administrator








Since: 9.12.01
From: ミネアポリス

Since last post: 14 hours
Last activity: 5 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
Y!:
#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    So, if he didnt hurt anybody, but he SCARED them, he gets arrested? But those clowns in San Francisco beat on the police horses and walk free?
It's still illegal to drive on the sidewalk.

Plus, he's really ugly. Did you see that picture? HOOOOOOOEEEEEEEE



©CRZ™
Bizzle Izzle
Bockwurst








Since: 26.6.02
From: New Jersey, USA

Since last post: 160 days
Last activity: 160 days
#7 Posted on

    Originally posted by vsp
    If you point and fire a deadly weapon at someone, you don't get a free pass just because you miss. I trust that you won't disagree that a truck deliberately aimed at a bystander can be considered to be a deadly weapon.



that's the second time you said he deliberately drove his truck at those people. i've gone back and read that article several times and I don't see where they said he 'delibrately' drove at anyone. Are you reading a different news article or do I need new contacts? An officer observed him driving on the sidewalk but he didn't observe what was in the guys head. The driver, to quote one of the rallying peaceniks, was "leaning on the horn". Now, everytime I try to kill someone with my car, I lean on the horn to warn them so they might get out of the way. How come you leftists always jump to conclusions when anyone MIGHT be threatening a protestor? Hey, I've got a crazy idea: maybe the guy had mechanical trouble with his vehicle and was leaning on the horn to get people to move.



'But if one is struck by me only a little, that is far different, the stroke is a sharp thing and suddenly lays him lifeless, and that man's wife goes with cheeks torn in lamentation, and his children are fatherless, while he, staining the soil with his red blood, rots away, and there are more birds than women swarming about him.' Diomedes, The Iliad of Homer

Maiden RULES!!!
vsp
Andouille








Since: 3.1.02
From: Philly

Since last post: 2947 days
Last activity: 161 days
#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by Bizzle Izzle
    that's the second time you said he deliberately drove his truck at those people. i've gone back and read that article several times and I don't see where they said he 'delibrately' drove at anyone. Are you reading a different news article or do I need new contacts?


You need new contacts, among many other things.




    An officer observed him driving on the sidewalk but he didn't observe what was in the guys head. The driver, to quote one of the rallying peaceniks, was "leaning on the horn". Now, everytime I try to kill someone with my car, I lean on the horn to warn them so they might get out of the way. How come you leftists always jump to conclusions when anyone MIGHT be threatening a protestor? Hey, I've got a crazy idea: maybe the guy had mechanical trouble with his vehicle and was leaning on the horn to get people to move.



Hey, I've got a crazier idea: if he had been having mechanical trouble with his vehicle, he (a) wouldn't have pulled onto the sidewalk right in the middle of a gathering of people (preferring, like any sane person, to look for a clear area instead), (b) probably wouldn't have been flashing an obscene gesture at the protesters, and (c) would've gotten out of his truck and explained the situation to the gathering and the cops, apologizing profusely. If any of that had been true, you'd think that it just might've made the article.

I didn't say he was deliberately trying to KILL the protestors. He did stop, after all; if he'd really wanted to flatten someone, he could've. What he did do was drive his truck in a highly reckless and unsafe manner with the intent of scattering and intimidating them, endangering their lives in the process. What if one of them had slipped while trying to run and ended up under the cab, or if he'd misjudged his brake distance?

I'm having visions in my head of Jake Blues flooring the gas pedal and making the Illinois Nazis dive off the bridge. Unfortunately, this isn't a movie, and demonstrators aren't stuntmen, and there's no humor to the situation.

EDIT: Here's a followup article, where he comes right out and says that he DID drive near them deliberately, and that my Jake Blues analogy was more accurate than I originally thought.

"I did not intend to hurt anyone," Watters said shortly after his release from the Hamilton County Justice Center. "My intent was to get people off the bridge. I was doing it for the boys overseas."

So he's being charged with what he should be, given the facts -- aggravated menacing, inducing panic and reckless operation, not attempted murder (though people could have ended up dead from what he did). Though he's pleading "not guilty," he says "What I did was wrong." That's a good start.


(edited by vsp on 26.3.03 1047)

(edited by vsp on 26.3.03 1048)

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt
Pages: 1Thread ahead: " I was a naive fool to be a human shield for Saddam"
Next thread: Wake Up and Face the Sleepers
Previous thread: Connie Chung's Carrer Casualty of Conflict
(2193 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
Barney Frank is a joke, but that has been the case for years. Bernanke and Paulson are more to blame going back to the summer of '07, when the Fed started to cut rates in an attempt to keep the market artificially high.
- redsoxnation, Is Barney Frank to blame? (2008)
The W - Current Events & Politics - Someone who _nearly didn't_ know when to stopRegister and log in to post!

The W™ message board

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim

This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.178 seconds.