What? My Superman knowledge happens to be extensive. But let's kind of address it in a different way:
What 'counts' for you? For instance, do you as a comics fan and a fan of the character consider whatever DC does in current continuity what Superman 'is'? Because I don't. That goes especially for New 52 Superman, which I think is one of the weakest and most annoying aspects of the reboot.
Personally, I pick and choose what 'counts' for me. I've read a lot of Superman over the years and quite frankly, I think most of it is varying levels of pretty shitty. I can count on one hand how many Superman stories I think are good/great. Kingdom Come, Absolute Superman... uh, Morrison's Action Comics #1 (not the rest of it)... uh, nothing else comes immediately to mind.
Superman The Movie was my introduction to Superman, so Richard Donner and Christopher Reeve's Superman is Superman to me. And for a lot of people, I guess.
Then there's Smallville, which has also been Superman for me for the last ten plus years, for better or worse. Smallville inherited the concepts, actors, and iconography of Superman The Movie and Superman II. Oh, Smallville has been and can be shitty, but at this point it's Superman for me.
We'll see what happens when Man of Steel comes out.
Now, to be totally self serving, did anyone like the recap? Should I keep going?
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I liked the recap. To me for comics, the John Byrne run is what I consider cannon til the new 52 along with Kirby's New Gods storyline. I ignore Birthright, but I like Man For All Seasons as well as Kingdom Come universe being an alternate one which they did in JSA. New 52 does not count, because in a few years, I don't think its going to be around.
For the media aspect, I count Superman I, II and of course the 90s cartoon and JLU as cannon with Young Justice falling into that category. To be me that is all one big giant flow if you just accept that Batman's sidekicks were held back.
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If the digital comic played a snippet of 'Somebody Save Me' whenever you opened it, I'd buy a copy. Just to troll people at comic shops.
I think if Pere focused a little less on getting Welling's face picture perfect and more on his anatomy it'd help out a bit. In the panel where you wax rhapsodic on how much it looks like welling, his hand is completely detached from his body. In the "red blur" panels one of the Russians only has one elbow and despite it being bent it's still as long as his unbent arm.
Does the Smallville "DCnU" costume have a darker side panel? I had initially thought it was a weird reflection/shadow, but he's got a random darker stripe going down his side. Odd.
How many pages is this for 0.99$?
Could I read it multiple times while listening to Remy Zero? (Having just watched the video, is Lex Luthor the lead singer of Remy Zero? Was he trying to sabotage Superman's show from the very beginning?)
You forgot to mention "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" as good/great.
I liked the recap, but I would appreciate it more if you did it for something a little better.
As far as continuity, I consider each story to be a different universe unto itself. Problem solved!
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Originally posted by Mike ZeidlerHow many pages is this for 0.99$?
On my Kindle Fire Comixology app, it says the entire issue is 22 pages, but that is fudged. Each "page" consists of only enough panels to constitute half of a page of a comic book if and when it's printed out on paper. The Comixology app lets you move panel to panel. Plus page 16 is a full sized page illustration of Superman repeated from an abbreviated panel on page 15, as is page 22 of page 21. So for original content, it's really about 10 pages. But less than that if it were printed as a comic book, about 7-8 pages. A third of a comic book for a third of the price.
In terms of actual story content, again, it feels like the teaser to an episode. I believe the plan is to have something like 4-5 issues constitute the length of a TV episode, if Smallville Season 11 is indeed being structured to mimic the television show format. The plan is also to have each episode collected and sold monthly as a print comic. But they haven't announced pricing for the print monthly comic collection. I wonder if it will be cheaper to buy the printed comic rather than pay 99 cents a week for digital?
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I'm not completely sold yet. The art is good, the story has yet to grip me. But I concur that this is just the intro. So I'll give it a few tries.
I think I'd rather get the entire comic in one go then 10 pages every week, that is mostly the reason why I'm not sold. I do miss Erica Durance though. Even when Smallville was bad, she was enough reason to tune in
My problem with Smallville is not so much that I'm attached to any particular version of Superman. I like Byrne's run, Red Son, All Star, LOVED For All Seasons and the animated series and the first movie.
The problem is what a HUGE blown opportunity the show was. I was a huge fan for the first three seasons but things just kept getting more detached from any sort of Superman that had come before. It was essentially taking all the characters from Superman, but doing whatever the hell they wanted.
The endgame should have been bringing Superman to the status quo we all know. Truth Justice and the American Way. Lex is his arch enemy, Lois Lane is his gal, Jimmy Olson his pal. We didn't need every member of the DC Universe to pop up. Just give us the story of how a kid with unlimited power becomes a Superman.
Originally posted by ScottyflamingoThe endgame should have been bringing Superman to the status quo we all know. Truth Justice and the American Way. Lex is his arch enemy, Lois Lane is his gal, Jimmy Olson his pal. We didn't need every member of the DC Universe to pop up. Just give us the story of how a kid with unlimited power becomes a Superman.
But that's exactly what they did. How they did it, sure, complain all you want. Up until the last 10 minutes of the finale, they held onto the rule of "No tights, no flights." But Smallville ended exactly as you specified: Clark Kent is Superman, Lois Lane is his fiance, Jimmy Olsen is there, Lex Luthor is alive and his arch enemy.
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The purpose of the ongoing Zero Year storyline by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo in Batman (currently in issue 3 of 11) is to provide a definitive origin for the New 52 Batman. Basically, Year One is no longer the origin of Batman in the New 52.