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DarrylTheHitman
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Since: 21.9.02
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#21 Posted on
When a wrestler is a face he's generally Superman and can barely be taken down by a Kryptonite bullet covered in garlic. When the same wrestler is a heel, suddenly he's more cowardly than Katie Vick when she sees the red light go on. I'm thinking specifically of Austin just after he went heel at Mania 17 but there are other examples, I'm sure. Does someone lose their ability to withstand punishment just because they turn heel? Or are faces booked to be much too strong?



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
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    Originally posted by ManiacalClown
    If you throw something unexpectedly at someone's face, the natural reflex is to catch it. The rationale behind the move in this case is that the catcher doesn't have time to figure out what happened before the getting hit with whatever move.

    My pet peeve is the whip...bend over...get kicked in the face maneuver.



That does make sense. The trouble is the thrower of the chair often throws it to his opponent like they were in the midst of an egg tossing contest. More often than not, there's plenty of time for the intended target to react in a way that doesn't result in eating a faceful of steel.





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#23 Posted on
I'm usually pretty good in not nit picking a match. But there is one thing that really annoys me.

Shem really touched upon it. The tag team breaking up the pin. I don't have a problem with it, or even the number of times it's used (I chalk it up to better be safe then sorry by your tag partner)... What bothers me is when you have someone pinned and his partner comes in and gives a weak love tap on your back with his toes, and the pinner doesn't even sell it and is still pinning the opponent and the Ref stops at 2 1/2. I always think "hey he's still in the pinning position you can finish your count"



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miknight
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Since: 22.10.02
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#24 Posted on
wrestlers who half-ass it in terms of throwing their transition punches.
i'm specifically talking about RVD's forearms to the head which don't look like they'd knock over a toy soldier

why can't he put in the effort that eddie puts in. his forearms are brutal looking.

also on Darryls Austin observation, what about at WM17 when Austin wouldn't tap out to the sharpshooter or any submission move prior to that and the next night in a cage after being in the hold momentarily he screamed like a biatch and tapped like it was his foot to a catchy tune

(edited by miknight on 11.11.02 2036)

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#25 Posted on
Mine is a little similar to Daryl's. It's thankfully very seldom seen in WWE anymore, thanks to the Hardcore belt being merged into the RAW Heavyweight title, but it still annoyed me to no end: in a hardcore match, a guy can take anything up to and including having his head split in two by an axe and still kick out of pinfall attempts, yet in a standard match, he can't get up from anything more damaging than, say, a sidewalk slam. The worst example of this was the way Road Dogg was booked while he was Hardcore champ, where he was nigh invulnerable when defending the title, but would put guys like the Big Bossman over after the Bossman Slam in standard matches.
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Since: 7.8.02
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#26 Posted on
Shawn Michaels chewing gum during his matches always bugged the shit out of me for some reason.



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DarrylTheHitman
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Since: 21.9.02
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#27 Posted on
When both guys are down on the mat and the ref counts to 10 because if he reaches 10 on both, it's a double-countout. When, outside of the Rock-Mankind Last Man Standing match at St. Valentine's Day Massacre 1999, in a normal match has anyone ever seen both guys being counted out?



oldschoolhero
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#28 Posted on
Ref inconsistencies are the worst. For instance, Earl hebner's perfectly willing to accept the heels' word that they tagged behind his back, but faces are NEVER allowed to get away with it. And when a ref runs out to dispute the decision and get the match restarted. So retarded-if they did that every time something untoward happened, we'd never finish a freakin' match.




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#29 Posted on
Honestly... the worst is the lack of real HEEL announcers lately. That was the one and only thing I really liked about Heyman with JR (JR ruined that team, in my opinion). Tazz needs to be more heel and the King, well, he just needs to be neutered. There is NOTHING like a good heel color-man...




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#30 Posted on
I think you're forgetting something...

WHAT ABOUT RAVEN?!




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#31 Posted on
They NEVER let Raven announce for longer than a couple of weeks at a time though...




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#32 Posted on
I'll throw in another little thing that kind of irks me....the "throw off the stage" spots, like Undertaker a few weeks back on Smackdown....When someone gets thrown to the "equipment" below, you can clearly see how soft and cushy the padding is that they're falling on. Other weak spots include the F-5 on popcorn bags, which my grandmother could take, and Triple H at WM17 in the crowd against Undertaker. I forgot what move it was, but they showed the replay and Trips almost bounced off of the cushion it was so fluffy. Remember any other soft landings?

Edit: Also, I hope people don't get the wrong idea from this thread. I love the WWE, unlike most, and this thread is just meant to point out tiny things, little inconsistencies and such that are fun to point out. I'm not searching for reasons to dis the WWE.

(edited by FurryHippie on 11.11.02 1222)
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#33 Posted on

    Originally posted by miknight
    wrestlers who half-ass it in terms of throwing their transition punches.
    i'm specifically talking about RVD's forearms to the head which don't look like they'd knock over a toy soldier

    why can't he put in the effort that eddie puts in. his forearms are brutal looking.

    (edited by miknight on 11.11.02 2036)

Yes, yes, yes!! This is the worst thing that can toss me right out of willing suspension of disbelief. And you have nailed the biggest culprit. And I'll see him do it with little close-range transition kicks too. Yes, it requires some energy & effort to do well, but of all people, Mr Quasi-Karate Educated-Feet ought to have that skill down!

The other one that I always have to laugh at is when we set somebody up for a crotch shot in the corner, sitting on the middle rope turnbuckle with both legs spread & over the ropes on each side. And they pretty much have to hold on to the top ropes to keep from falling over forward, while they're waiting for the crotch shot. Very silly.
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#34 Posted on
Two replies for the price of one! Collect the whole set!


    Originally posted by DarrylTheHitman
    When both guys are down on the mat and the ref counts to 10 because if he reaches 10 on both, it's a double-countout. When, outside of the Rock-Mankind Last Man Standing match at St. Valentine's Day Massacre 1999, in a normal match has anyone ever seen both guys being counted out?


I actually believe that the rule is that the ref's supposed to count even if only ONE guy is down on the mat and not moving. I specifically recall the first Randy Savage v. Jake Roberts feud match back at This Tuesday In Texas. Jake had knocked Savage loopy in the ring and was leaning back in the corner, while Hebner was actually counting Savage down. He got up to about seven before Jake pulled himself up and stopped the count himself. Theoretically, had Hebner reached 10, Jake would've won on either a knockout or a countout.


    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Ref inconsistencies are the worst. For instance, Earl hebner's perfectly willing to accept the heels' word that they tagged behind his back, but faces are NEVER allowed to get away with it. And when a ref runs out to dispute the decision and get the match restarted. So retarded-if they did that every time something untoward happened, we'd never finish a freakin' match.


The ref can't call what he can't see, but supposedly they can call what they can HEAR - that's why most heels, when doing false tags, slap their own hands together to simulate the sound of the tag. Since the referee can't see EVERYTHING, he hears the sound of the tag - and sees the wrestlers in the corner already - and assumes the tag happened.

The last he sees of the faces, however, is the face fighting in the middle of the ring to get the tag while the heel's blocking him. With all the noise and everything, he doesn't hear the actual tag (this is why the heels do the hand-slap mentioned LOUDLY, so they make SURE the referee hears it) and definitely doesn't see it, so he doesn't allow it (last he saw the face, he was nowhere close to making a tag).

This is more than likely overanalyzing it, but there ya go.

Mike



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#35 Posted on

    Originally posted by FurryHippie
    you get to pick up things, like the injured signal, the talking, the blading....


What's the injured signal?
DarrylTheHitman
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Since: 21.9.02
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#36 Posted on
As far as I know, the injured signal is when the ref makes a X with his arms while facing the entrance/backstage. This is meant as a signal that someone is really hurt in the ring/at ringside/whatever. I believe it was used by the ref (Hebner?) the night Kevin Nash tore his quad in the 10-man tag. From the reports I read of Rebellion, it was also used during the Angle/Benoit vs. The Guerreros tag title match when Eddie had the wind knocked out of him.



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Since: 23.10.02
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#37 Posted on

    Originally posted by DarrylTheHitman
    When both guys are down on the mat and the ref counts to 10 because if he reaches 10 on both, it's a double-countout. When, outside of the Rock-Mankind Last Man Standing match at St. Valentine's Day Massacre 1999, in a normal match has anyone ever seen both guys being counted out?


Magnum TA and Tully Blanchard had a long match that ended in a draw when both men failed to answer the 10 count. That was one of the matches that led to their great "I Quit" cage match at Starrcade '85.
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#38 Posted on
With all this mention of Earl Hebner, another one came to mind. If it's a big match, and he's doing the slow, dramatic count, you just know that hand will touch the canvas for a third time.







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Since: 4.1.02
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#39 Posted on

    When both guys are down on the mat and the ref counts to 10 because if he reaches 10 on both, it's a double-countout. When, outside of the Rock-Mankind Last Man Standing match at St. Valentine's Day Massacre 1999, in a normal match has anyone ever seen both guys being counted out?


Dean Malenko and Eddie Guerrero, on Nitro a few years back. They did a superplex off the top spot, I think, and one of them was legit knocked out. They did the double-knockout finish because the guy who was knocked out was booked ot win.


    The ref can't call what he can't see, but supposedly they can call what they can HEAR - that's why most heels, when doing false tags, slap their own hands together to simulate the sound of the tag. Since the referee can't see EVERYTHING, he hears the sound of the tag - and sees the wrestlers in the corner already - and assumes the tag happened.


Then why can't the ref HEAR the sound of a steel chair being slammed into someone's face?









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Since: 2.10.02
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#40 Posted on
One pet peeve I have are ref bumps. I'm supposed to believe while two wrestlers are beating the hell out each other, and a ref accidentally gets touched, he has to fall into a coma.
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