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Since: 25.4.03
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.70

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/539/539783p1.html

I know that there is a certain cut-off point to add wrestlers, but no Kidman, London or Spike in this one. But we have Hardcore Holly & Garrison Cade?

On the bright side, at least Bret Hart is a confirmed legend.





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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.88
You can file this under "Just Sayin Is All", but on the screenshots I've seen, Randy Orton's face almost looks like the face of a clean-shaven Giant Gonzalez.

Of course, most likely I'll drop $45 on this in a few months when it comes out, especially since I liked last year's version. Supposedly they've tweaked/improved the engine so that submissions aren't so much impossible but still as logical as the system they introduced with HCTP (e.g. only if you soften up a body part does a submission become a real possibility) as well as a high impact-risk/low impact/risk option in the moveset which of course means the AI has an even HIGHER chance of countering moves that human players can't inversely.

www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/wwesmackdownvsraw/preview_6104236.html




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.62
So, there's Palumbo, Rico, Haas and Jindrak, but no Regal or Eugene. I mean, seriously, what's the thought process when putting a roster together? Does WWE tie hands that tightly? THQ will probably make an assload of money on this game just because of Bret Hart, and that's a shame, and that's not a knock against Bret.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.46
The cutoff for characters for these kinda games is always a few months before the actual release.
If at that time WWE figured they would not be doing anything with Spike, London, Regal, Eugene and who not, then they wont be in there..
Just think back like 4-5 months ago and who was on tv then getting a push. Cade, Rico, Haas, Holly were used.
Eugene was just appearing and I don't think they expected him to get that big at that point.

More important is the CAW options..usually they put the guys that arent part of the official roster in there somehow.
If there is a hairdo called 'special' you know Eugene's face will be in there somewhere.




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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.97
Eugene would be a better CAW creation because you could give him the moves of as many WWE legends as you like: Superfly Splash, Fameasser, Stunner, Rock Bottom, Sweet Chin Music, Mandible Claw, Legdrop, etc.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.67
Seriously I hope this isn't the final list. More legends are going to in I heard but not annoucned till you find them in game. But Where is Lita?

I just added a thread for the WWE Day of Reckoning (GameCube)roster.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.91
Apparently IGN is going to reveal the other six legends over the course of this week. I'm assuming The Rock will be one of them, maybe Austin, otherwise, that is the final roster. Unless someone gets fired and Vince demands them out of the game, I think this is the roster we're stuck with.

No Hurricane? No Jamie Noble? No Paul London? >=\



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.31
Well...who ever is missing ont he rosters, can't you guys just make them with the CAW feature?

Interesting looking game, anyone know the current release date?




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.20
    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Interesting looking game, anyone know the current release date?


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.69
Geez, must we have peeps moan about who's not there EVERY year? I mean with the best will in the world they're not going to be able to get the rosters 100% up to date on realease. Haas, Rico and Holly were getting pushed a few months back, Kidman et al weren't.

And honestly, how many people do you think will keep their money in their wallet because Paul London's not on the roster? Hurricane's absence is admittedly a puzzler for I thought he'd be pretty popular with the ankle biter demographic, but he'll surely be available as a CAW.

Can't we just rejoice in the snaziness of the new things they have? Heck everyone invariably ends up finding the game to be great anyways. The heel/face thing sounds fun, and hopefully it means the story mode will be more reflective of your alignment as a result. Stare downs should be pretty cool too. From what I hear they don't ALWAYS happen either so the shouldn't get too tiresome. And hopefully the submissions aren't so utterly impossible again.

Create a belt does nothing for me but I'm still eager with anticipation for its arrival on these here shores.

EDIT: I'll grant you I have no idea why Palumbo's there. Maybe Spiff's got stroke at THQ ;)

(edited by dMr on 19.8.04 1557)


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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.97
    Originally posted by dMr
    I'll grant you I have no idea why Palumbo's there. Maybe Spiff's got stroke at THQ


He's there because he's a former WCW champion. Granted, it was for eight seconds, but still ...



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.37
Also, there is commentary from both Ross & Lawler and Cole & Tazz as well as voiceovers from every wrestler used in season mode, so adding someone at the last minute would be a chore.

Also, IGN announced three more legends last night:
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.31
Hm, what about Rock and Mic Foley? I got to believe they will be put on there as well.




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by dMr
    EDIT: I'll grant you I have no idea why Palumbo's there. Maybe Spiff's got stroke at THQ ;)

If I had any stroke, Knoble would be in there, and darn near unbeatable.

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 19.8.04 1305)


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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.41
    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Hm, what about Rock and Mic Foley? I got to believe they will be put on there as well.


I could see them as Legends. Foley's retired, after all, and Rock isn't an active competitor. IGN claimed they had about six legends to show off, and it's a good bet they're two of them.

I'm a little disappointed in the lack of Eugene; the claim was that the roster would include everybody in active competition for the month of August, and Eugene was ALL OVER August. I guess he can be CAW'd but the animations for his awkward little stance / walk / run might not be there.

I'm kind of glad Hurricane and Spike aren't in there -- so I can CAW them with GOOD stats. In my Bizarro WWE I demand these be treated as something other than jobbers, dangit!

I was also highly amused by IGN's preview pics including Bret putting the sharpshooter on HBK. Muwahaha.

I think the best new addition though, beyond the roster, is Create-a-Belt which can then be defended on Create-a-PPVs. If you're tired of all your CAWs getting the short stick because they enter story mode with jobber popularity, now you can run a fed-within-a-fed. Huzzah.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.67
I might be to forgive the lack of some big name superstars (I'm looking at you Jamie 'by God' Noble and the General Lee tights) as long as the "rumored" online mode is included. We do got the CAW , but hopefully in the future (PS3 I assume and Wrestlemania 21 X-Box) why not have "roster" upgrades like sports games do.

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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.31
Do you guys think there is any chance of the AKI engine ever being used again on a WWE videogame? I really miss the gameplay of Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy.

After watching the videos, I got to be honest, the PBP commentary feature on this game is kind of cool b/c you are hearing Cole and Tazz, but its also pretty lame too because they just repeat the same stuff over and over. I think the game would just be better off without commentators.

As for the legend characters, anyone think Stone Cold Steve Austin will make it on there? I guess its doubtful considering with everything that's happened this year.




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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
As long as Aki is working for EA, I don't think we'll see them do a WWE game.

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.70
    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Hm, what about Rock and Mic Foley? I got to believe they will be put on there as well.


Looks like they've added them ... it's the old looking Rock pre-massive left arm tattoo ... plus the LOD ...

http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/670/670847/imgs_1.html



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.09
    Originally posted by dMr
    Can't we just rejoice in the snaziness of the new things they have?



I'll be happy when we get a next-gen FirePro since I can't stand the Smackdown games (or Raw, or Wrestlemania, or any of the other current garbage). End result: I will never be happy.

As someone hinted at above, an AKI-style game would be ok too, but that's obviously not going to happen anytime soon.



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