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|  #1 Posted on 25.5.05 0936.10 | Instant Rating: 2.48 | Courtesy of Wrestling Observer...
Dark match
Scotty 2 Hotty b C.M. Punk
Billy Kidman b Nunzio
Velocity
Bashams b Funaki & Nunzio
Booker T b ? (possibly Brent Albright)
Orlando Jordan b Mark Jindrak
Smackdown
Carlito's Cabana opened the show and the guest was Carlito. Matt Morgan started to stutter. Carlito showed Morgan giving show the F-5. A lot of cheers for Morgan. Teddy Long came out announces a winner gets his choice of match Battle Royal. Long also announces Carlito vs. Big Show
Bob Holly & Charlie Haas b MNM-DQ for a chair shot on Bob
Paul London b Chavo Guerrero to keep cruiserweight title
John Cena did a promo. Guess who cut him off. JBL. Yes the feud must continue. Cena said he wouldn't play a video tribute he made to JBL because JBL insulted him. JBL apologized because he wanted to see the video, but the video was just JBL quitting.
Big Show b Carlito with a choke slam after they booted Morgan from ringside. Morgan came back and gave Show an F-5 through a table
Kurt Angle did a long anti-ECW promo saying it was garbage and talks about walking out when Raven put Sandman on the cross. They teased Tazz defending ECW. Angle is also going to lead a team of invaders to fight ECW.
Angle b ? with an ankle lock
Angle then won the Battle Royal. Last two were Angle and Mysterio and they went several minutes before Angle dumped him. Didn't we see that a few years ago?
Angle's dream match next week is a singles match against Sharmell.
Neither Cena nor JBL worked tonight, even though advertised for a dark match, probably because they were banged up from Sunday.
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|  #2 Posted on 25.5.05 1038.41 | Instant Rating: 2.27 | Wow... talk about killing time before the draft.
And why all the PPV rematches? The last thing that we needed was Show going over Carlito.
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|  #3 Posted on 25.5.05 1039.11 | Instant Rating: 2.86 | Nothing of note reported in regards to Eddy for this show? That's surprising, even if they apparently are readying Angle for the next main event feud with Cena.
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| #4 Posted on 25.5.05 1057.14 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | From Rajah:
We come back from the break, and Steve Romero is in the back with Rey Mysterio. Rey says that tonight, during the battle royal, he will get his revenge on Eddie Guerrero.
And:
Everyone comes down, and the last music to play is Rey Mysterio's, but he is attacked from behind by Eddie Guerrero and a steel chair. Eddie lays a beating on Rey, seemingly ending Rey's chance of winning the Battle Royal. The Match starts, and Eddie goes underneath the bottom rope and hides while wrestlers begin to eliminate each other. Halfway through the math, Eddie gets back into the ring. The final 6 are Angle, Eddie, Booker T, Doug Basham, Danny Basham, and Orlando Jordan. Rey comes running down the ramp and eliminates Eddie, and Rey gets to stick around for the remainder of the Battle Royal, as he was never eliminated.
Show looks pretty decent. Angle choosing Sharmell is pretty lame, though, and really just makes the battle royal look worthless.
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| #5 Posted on 25.5.05 1311.28 | Instant Rating: 3.99 | Angle can have any match he wants with anyone. He could have a shot at Cena for the title. And he chooses to fight a valet.
Are they actually TRYING to bury him? Is this a punishment for something?
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| #6 Posted on 25.5.05 1732.33 | Instant Rating: 3.17 | Originally posted by Phantom
Angle can have any match he wants with anyone. He could have a shot at Cena for the title. And he chooses to fight a valet.
Are they actually TRYING to bury him? Is this a punishment for something?
Angle's been on such a roll that a title shot SHOULD have been in the cards. Eddie's been on such a hot streak and drawing so much heat that you would think he'd be next in line for a title shot?
Instead, it looks like Cena/JBL part 3. Good lord...
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| #7 Posted on 25.5.05 1842.45 | Instant Rating: 2.48 | Originally posted by It's False
Angle's been on such a roll that a title shot SHOULD have been in the cards. Eddie's been on such a hot streak and drawing so much heat that you would think he'd be next in line for a title shot?
Instead, it looks like Cena/JBL part 3. Good lord...
A trilogy? Perhaps that'll be the end of that. Kinda like Hunter/Batista Three at the next Raw PPV.
I'm not sure if I'll catch SD! tomorrow, or instead tape it. It all depends on how good the CSI episodes on SPike are.
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| #8 Posted on 25.5.05 2212.04 | Instant Rating: 3.13 | Doing a third Cena/JBL match is a shame, because they managed to pull out a great match with that gimmick and I can't see them doing it again.
Show going over Carlito is a WASTE. One thing they need to do is build a few heels to feud with Cena to prolong his popularity, and Carlito could be one of those guys (even if it'd be a brief feud). This does nothing for either guy, as Show's dead in the water in terms of being over with the crowd.
Only two things I was glad to see on there:
1. Angle doing a promo on ECW. I was sort of expecting them to bring up the Sandman Crucifixion thing, and it builds a little more intrigue for the PPV. Much like the Heyman/Bischoff/McMahon segment did on Monday, so I take back what I said in another thread (HERE) about them not doing enough.
2. CM Punk was in yet another dark match. And if I'm not mistaken, I thought I read on Meltzer that he was in a dark match on RAW and actually won.
Other than that, I might casually flip back to Smackdown, but it doesn't look like appointment viewing (especially since half the matches I saw on Sunday, and the battle royal we saw a few months ago).
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| #9 Posted on 26.5.05 1058.39 | Instant Rating: 3.99 | Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
Show going over Carlito is a WASTE. One thing they need to do is build a few heels to feud with Cena to prolong his popularity, and Carlito could be one of those guys (even if it'd be a brief feud). This does nothing for either guy, as Show's dead in the water in terms of being over with the crowd.
I’ll disagree with that. The biggest mistake the WWE has made with the Big Show has been to make him too beatable. The lowest point of that was back when he was on Raw and jobbing clean to Jeff Hardy. The feud with Lesnar helped refresh him as a monster threat, but that doesn’t mean he can always be jobbed out clean.
As for Carlito, he’ll survive the loss. Right now his character is the classic big-mouthed chickenshit heel. That’s one of the reasons why he has Morgan backing him up. So he can lose a match or two, then cut an arrogant promo next week and be good as new. Plus, he’s only been on the show for less than a year. It’s a bit too early to think of him as a heavyweight title contender. The US Championship, sure, but not the WWE title.
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| #10 Posted on 26.5.05 1129.16 | Instant Rating: 5.13 | "The lowest point of that was back when he was on Raw and jobbing clean to Jeff Hardy."
Argh. Big Show NEVER jobbed clean to Jeff Hardy. Hardy got a fluke count-out win over him. The sooner this soundbite dies a quiet death the better.
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| #11 Posted on 26.5.05 1309.47 | Instant Rating: 3.99 | Originally posted by oldschoolhero
"The lowest point of that was back when he was on Raw and jobbing clean to Jeff Hardy."
Argh. Big Show NEVER jobbed clean to Jeff Hardy. Hardy got a fluke count-out win over him. The sooner this soundbite dies a quiet death the better.
I just went back through the recaps, and you’re right. Show had the loss to Hardy (though I’m not sure if the term fluke applies, either – Hardy dropkicked the chair into him, and Show stayed down until the 12 count, though he no-sold it once he was up). He lost a cage match against Booker T, won a rematch through a Jericho assist, and finally had squash win over Three Minute Warning in his last Raw match. Either way, my memory of the events was wrong.
Though I still stand by the point that Carlito can lose this match without losing any real momentum, and that it’s still way too early to consider hotshotting him into a main-event feud with the champ. Realistically, he just had his first PPV singles match on Sunday. There’s no need to rush things.
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| #12 Posted on 26.5.05 1519.31 | Instant Rating: 2.09 | Don't worry about the possibility of Cena-JBL III. Even though I think that they don't need to do another match between the two because the "I Quit" match was probably as good a match as they're going to have, you have to remember that the next Smackdown Pay Per View, Great American Bash, isn't until July. So for the next month or so they have to kill time before they start to build to the Bash (even though I think that they should start the build as soon as possible). JBL might get another rematch, but by June, Angle will be in the title picture. He already said in an interview that he would be the next guy to do a program with Cena, as he should be.
As far as Smackdown goes, I've never understood the logic of putting Pay Per View matches on TV the week after the show. There's already fewer and fewer reasons to buy the Pay Per Views meaning WWE doesn't need to give its paying customers even more reasons not to buy. I suppose no one bought the Pay Per View for the matches that they did on Smackdown this week, but I still don't understand the logic in that.
And I guess it doesn't need to be said, but what the hell are they doing with Sharmell vs Angle? It doesn't make for a good match, it isn't anything that anyone wants to see, and it makes no sense that Angle can demand a match with a non-wrestler. I wish I got paid to be a member of the "creative" team. | CTX
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| #13 Posted on 26.5.05 2120.29 | Instant Rating: 1.00 | Originally posted by BigSteve
As far as Smackdown goes, I've never understood the logic of putting Pay Per View matches on TV the week after the show. There's already fewer and fewer reasons to buy the Pay Per Views meaning WWE doesn't need to give its paying customers even more reasons not to buy. I suppose no one bought the Pay Per View for the matches that they did on Smackdown this week, but I still don't understand the logic in that
The only reason I can think of as to why they still do it thesedays is in the hopes the rematches are good enough to make the viewer think they may actually have missed something even better on the PPV, thus make it more likely for them not to want to miss the next one.
Unfortunately the rematches are always the matches nobody really cared about anyway. Plus by the sounds of it (I haven't seen the show yet) they weren't any better than the PPV matches, rendering the whole thing pointless. | Tenken347
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| #14 Posted on 26.5.05 2133.33 | Instant Rating: 4.60 | | As far as matching Angle against Sharmell, I think the idea might be to put Angle in a program where he's not doing too much ring work. He just came off a couple of big matches, and I can see them thinking that he could maybe use a little down time in order to stay healthy. Don't forget, it was only a few months ago that people were talking about his retirement match. | Quezzy
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| #15 Posted on 27.5.05 1453.33 | Instant Rating: 3.84 | Let's face it, Smackdown has not had a good history of putting on very good ppvs, but I thought Judgement Day went very very well. Perhaps the WWE noticed this ppv was better than usual and figured the guys wrestling each other this ppv had good chemistry together and that maybe if they wrestled again they would put on another great match. Granted, it's probably Eddie/Rey or Angle/Booker that I would extend if any but the MNM/Holly and Haas and Show/Carlito matches were good too, and neither really got a chance to feud for that long before the ppv so I have no problem with either of them continuing a feud. I actually think feuds are too short these days. I hate the let's feud for one month settle it at the ppv then move on to some other guy formula. JBL and Cena I really have no desire to see again, but I'd watch a rematch of any of the other matches on the ppv. Well besides Heidenreich/Orlando.
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| #16 Posted on 27.5.05 2344.46 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | I HATE the WWE logic that if a NON-WRESTLER (JR for example) is challenged to a match that for some reason they're FORCED to accept.
It just boggles my mind.
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| #17 Posted on 28.5.05 0027.47 | Instant Rating: 3.10 | Originally posted by Zeruel
I HATE the WWE logic that if a NON-WRESTLER (JR for example) is challenged to a match that for some reason they're FORCED to accept.
It just boggles my mind.
Yeah but in this case, the winner of the battle royale could face ANYONE he wanted so Sharmell is forced to wrestle him. By winning the match, he could pick anyone for a match.
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| #18 Posted on 28.5.05 0034.42 | Instant Rating: 6.03 | Originally posted by Bob C
Originally posted by Zeruel
I HATE the WWE logic that if a NON-WRESTLER (JR for example) is challenged to a match that for some reason they're FORCED to accept.
It just boggles my mind.
Yeah but in this case, the winner of the battle royale could face ANYONE he wanted so Sharmell is forced to wrestle him. By winning the match, he could pick anyone for a match.
WWE LOGIC: Any WWE personnel that's involved in their shows (referees, ring announcers, commentators, valets & managers) and are at ringside must be under contract for insurance reasons, otherwise they'd be liable if they got hurt (like, the WWE ain't liable for Paul Bearer getting bured alive since it's in a contract). Therefore, WWE contracted people CAN be drafted and CAN be yoinked up by Kurt Angle in situations such as this.
It's stupid as all Hell, but it works if you think about it.
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| #19 Posted on 28.5.05 1349.15 | Instant Rating: 3.99 | Originally posted by Freeway420
Originally posted by Bob C
Originally posted by Zeruel
I HATE the WWE logic that if a NON-WRESTLER (JR for example) is challenged to a match that for some reason they're FORCED to accept.
It just boggles my mind.
Yeah but in this case, the winner of the battle royale could face ANYONE he wanted so Sharmell is forced to wrestle him. By winning the match, he could pick anyone for a match.
WWE LOGIC: Any WWE personnel that's involved in their shows (referees, ring announcers, commentators, valets & managers) and are at ringside must be under contract for insurance reasons, otherwise they'd be liable if they got hurt (like, the WWE ain't liable for Paul Bearer getting bured alive since it's in a contract). Therefore, WWE contracted people CAN be drafted and CAN be yoinked up by Kurt Angle in situations such as this.
It's stupid as all Hell, but it works if you think about it.
And yet they're not allowed to walk away from the match. That was one of the dumber things from Thursday's Big Show/Carlito match. After Morgan was booted, Carlito started to follow him into the back. The ref came out and told Carlito he wasn't allowed to leave... why? Was there a stipulation against count-outs for that match?
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