Originally posted by King Of CrapI'm guessing Cena beats Eddie for the belt (possibly with help from Show), and the two go into their seperate feuds.
Remember, the Vince/Steph match is for so-called "marks" who react simply on character.
WWE does not, and will never book for the net!
Vince and Stephanie's recent forays into house shows and PPV matches have not done well AT ALL. People are conditioned to think that when Vince is on TV, something major is going to happen so his QH's are usually high but it never translates into them wanting to pay to see him in a match.
I was there too. I think the reason for such a small turnout was because at the last SD show, I hadn't bought tickets ahead of time like I usually do, so when we got to the boxoffice, the only thing they had available were these $57 "club box" seats, which were no better than $27-35 seats, except you got a bar right there and a waitress bringing your drinks instead of having to flag down the beerman. In fact, the seats are at the top of the first level and are crappier than the $27 seats. There was almost a riot at the box office since we all knew that the top level cheap seat were all draped off, and people were PO'd at the "bait and switch" to get more money for Vince. If you have a kid with you, you don't want to disappoint them and say, "Screw you. I'm going home.", so they pretty much get what they want. Once bitten, twice shy. The last show here was a Raw in like May, I think, and they didn't try it there. The cheap seats were easy to get, but then I think Raw draws better here. It was one of their lousier shows, I thought. Thank gawd for Eddie, Benoit, and Tajiri.
I won't grizzle too much about Taker getting another title shot. At last weekend's SD house show in MSG, the main event was a Lesnar/Taker cage match, and it was pretty darn good. The combination of the Lesnar who pulled good matches out of the Big Show and the Taker who has his working, rather than squashing, boots on is a good one, and while it'd be silly to expect a repeat of last year's HIAC, I think they can get a nice little brawl out of it.
And Eddie/Show is at least something new. But Benoit/A-Train? They're getting perilously close to the Steiner/Test permafeud rut.
"I do have a degree in electrical engineering... from almost 20 years ago. Punchcard systems were just becoming obsolete, we had rotary phones in the dorms, and a modem was still a gizmo the size of a shoebox into which you squooshed the phone receiver itself. In short, we lived like animals.
The instant obsolesence is why I became a writer. The rate of punctuation in a sentence doesn't double every 18 friggin' months, and you never have some 22-year-old looming over your shoulder, shaking his head, saying "dude... you're still using adverbs...?"
Originally posted by oldschoolhero"This is the only way Vince can put his hands on and grope the only WWE Diva he hasn't yet, his own daughter."
You're an idiot.
You have to admit, the Vince/Steph incest angle would be the one last bad idea they could run that could trump all the other bad ideas that they have ever had. And thus you just know it's somewhere deep in the recesses of Vince's brain.
I'm not going to condemn Vince or assume he's got some psychological issues regarding an incest angle, because frankly that's not what hit me when I first found out about this.
The question I have is, who is this supposed to cater to? Who could possibly be interested in watching this? Is this supposed to entertain the fans? You essentially have two non-wrestlers who know approximately ZERO submission moves between them (unless you count Vince's bastardized version of the figure-four) wrestling in an "I Quit" match. Why was this match even signed in the first place?
This isn't a major psychological sickness on Vince's part. It's simply ego. I mean, I'm totally AWARE that Stephanie needs to be written out to go on her honeymoon, but was this really the BEST idea the creative team could come up with?
LS: Alright, we hardly gotten any airtime and we still aren't over. Anymore ideas? GD: Can you stare at your hand and spin on your head? Or better yet, we can have you shilling HUNGRY MAN DINNERS! LS: That...is very disturbing.
Originally posted by fuelinjectedHe already stared at her breasts in the wedding dress. This whole angle is based on Vince whoring her out. She's down two implied rape angles.
I don't think anything is out of bounds for them.
As I recall, President Bush did the same thing with his daughter at his inauguration.
Wait... Bush is evil, too. Crap... so much for that analogy.
But to those who say, “Vince vs. Steph? I quit!” with a straight face – so you’ve got a variety show that features stuff that could be great, like the coming Angle vs. Cena feud, an Eddie/Big Show feud which could very well be the last step to moving Eddie into the main event (knock Big Show’s workrate all you want, but it can probably be argued that Brock was cemented as legitimate the first time he hit that F-5 on Show), a Rey/Tajiri feud, and what could be a great feud between Taker and Lesnar (again, look at their Hell In A Cell match... and Taker’s showing more fire as a wrestler than he was at that point), and you want to quit because the card includes what’s almost guaranteed to be a brief Sports Entertainment match to get Steph off of TV for a little while? It’d be one thing if one could actually expect the match to go 20 minutes, but this one’ll probably be wrapped up in under 10, with Vince getting a quick screwjob win (probably rehashing the ending of the Rock/Mankind “I Quit” match, with a taped recording of Steph saying “I Quit” being played after she gets knocked out). Steph gets her storyline exit, Vince gets heel points, and the audience gets a bathroom break. Where’s the problem?
Originally posted by Mr TuesdayVince vs. Steph only means one thing to me.
This is the only way Vince can put his hands on and grope the only WWE Diva he hasn't yet, his own daughter.
Ugh. He did, now that you mention it, say something about deflowering her a spell back. I don't think this'll be sexual, or will be portrayed that way, but it is going to be hard to watch for more reasons than the obvious fact that it won't be a technical masterpiece. A wrestling match contains a lot of grabbing and holding and people sprawled out on top of each other, and it is seriously going to be stomach-turning to watch a father and daughter make physical contact like that. And an "I Quit" match is supposed to be violent...is anyone going to want to watch Vince throttle his daughter, or have someone do it for him? It's just nastiness. I can't imagine anyone finding that entertaining?
And it's too far outside the realm of believability to make for engaging entertainment. Vince's character has been over the top for a while now, but accepting that he wants to bludgeon his only daughter till she screams submission entails considering him well within the jurisdiction of drug-lord/terrorist super villany. And I'm not prepared to do that, since a month later he'll do something that we're supposed to take seriously, like presenting a plaque to Jack Brisco or something, and we'll all have to pretend we can accept the complete erasure of the line between fantasy and reality.
"Whatever I just posted above is what your mother said in bed last night."
We start out with Chavo Guerrero in Dario Cueto's office. Cueto asks why Chavo is there, since he quit. Chavo notes that Black Lotus plans to kill Cueto's brother and has received training from DragĂłn Azteca.