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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.14
Obviously, even the WWE wants you to watch the Friends finale this Thursday.




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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10
    Originally posted by Evil Antler God
    The Booker T thing sounds oddly like Guybrush fetching objects for the voodoo lady. But yes, the rest of the show sounds quite dull.....I'll still mark out for Undertaker though.....


So the T in Booker T stands for Threepwood? Was that LeChuck's hand rising from the grave?




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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by dMr
    I'm not saying it couldn't have been done better, but I'd say that we should at least see where they're going with it before declaring it the worst thing EVER. Its not so long since folks was bitching because Steph would be back on TV a month after she quit, HHH got HBK involved at WM so he wouldn't have to tap, Eugene would never get over, they blew the Christian/Jericho angle too quickly, and so on and so on.

    The writing on SD has been pretty lame of late, but there's certainly been enough good stuff on both brands over the last 6 months that I'd say we can at least cut them come slack. The very ridiculousness of Jackie as champ may be exactly why they're using her for the role. Maybe they'll stick an increasingly frustrated Chavo on a losing streak before he finally snaps and beats the living snot out of all and sundry.

    Maybe they'll use her to give one of the other cruisers you mention a more sadistic side by having them be merciless in beating her for the title. We don't know. But bitching about something which not only hasn't been played out but hasn't even freaking aired yet is a bit much.

Stop rationalizing this. Any amount of "waiting to see how it plays out" doesn't change the fact that Chavo, one of the most over heels on SD, jobbed to a 5 foot tall woman who can hardly stand up due to her obscenely large fake tits. There aren't any other heel cruisers right now built up like Chavo, so I can't see anyone else taking the title from her, and even if they did, it'd set up a heel vs. heel (Chavo) match.

Most likely, we'll get a Jackie/Chavo "match" at Judgment Day - woo-hoo, I can hardly contain my excitement. A better idea would have been to stick London back under the mask as "El Gran Luchador". He can win the title in an upset, they can still play the "overconfident/cocky heel underestimates his opponent", and can do the "Chavo on the warpath" storyline, while avoiding the brain-dead decision to job Chavo to a woman.

CHAVO. JOBBED. TO. JACQUELINE. There is no justification that can make this a good idea. "Cut them some slack"? No.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
Here's the test for how much of a bad idea this is:

Would you do this with Eddy Guerrero and the WWE Title?

Would you do this with Chris Benoit and the World Heavyweight Title?

Would you do this with John Cena and the United States Title?

Would you do this with Randy Orton and the Intercontinental Title?

If your answer is "Fuck no", then you understand how much this belittles Chavo, the Cruiserweight Title and the entire division.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
And how does the lockerroom feel about Chavo/Jacqueline?


    Many backstage are upset over Jackie beating Chavo Guerrero at the Smackdown taping on Tuesday. Most feel it was a horrible move.

    Credit: PWInsider.com




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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.53
Hmmm...a gloved hand rising from the grave.

Bear in mind it was FRESH grave. So was it someone Undertaker recently buried? I have no idea.

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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.45
    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    Here's the test for how much of a bad idea this is:

    Would you do this with Eddy Guerrero and the WWE Title?

    Would you do this with Chris Benoit and the World Heavyweight Title?

    Would you do this with John Cena and the United States Title?

    Would you do this with Randy Orton and the Intercontinental Title?

    If your answer is "Fuck no", then you understand how much this belittles Chavo, the Cruiserweight Title and the entire division.


Would I do this with Victoria and the Women's Title?

Fuck No.

That's how bad an idea it is.

It's not just a green, unestablished wrestler. It's not just a hotshot title change. It's not just a woman. It's all of it. It's a farce and it belittles the entire Smackdown brand.



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#28 Posted on
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      Originally posted by dMr
      I'm not saying it couldn't have been done better, but I'd say that we should at least see where they're going with it before declaring it the worst thing EVER. Its not so long since folks was bitching because Steph would be back on TV a month after she quit, HHH got HBK involved at WM so he wouldn't have to tap, Eugene would never get over, they blew the Christian/Jericho angle too quickly, and so on and so on.

      The writing on SD has been pretty lame of late, but there's certainly been enough good stuff on both brands over the last 6 months that I'd say we can at least cut them come slack. The very ridiculousness of Jackie as champ may be exactly why they're using her for the role. Maybe they'll stick an increasingly frustrated Chavo on a losing streak before he finally snaps and beats the living snot out of all and sundry.

      Maybe they'll use her to give one of the other cruisers you mention a more sadistic side by having them be merciless in beating her for the title. We don't know. But bitching about something which not only hasn't been played out but hasn't even freaking aired yet is a bit much.

    Stop rationalizing this. Any amount of "waiting to see how it plays out" doesn't change the fact that Chavo, one of the most over heels on SD, jobbed to a 5 foot tall woman who can hardly stand up due to her obscenely large fake tits. There aren't any other heel cruisers right now built up like Chavo, so I can't see anyone else taking the title from her, and even if they did, it'd set up a heel vs. heel (Chavo) match.

    Most likely, we'll get a Jackie/Chavo "match" at Judgment Day - woo-hoo, I can hardly contain my excitement. A better idea would have been to stick London back under the mask as "El Gran Luchador". He can win the title in an upset, they can still play the "overconfident/cocky heel underestimates his opponent", and can do the "Chavo on the warpath" storyline, while avoiding the brain-dead decision to job Chavo to a woman.

    CHAVO. JOBBED. TO. JACQUELINE. There is no justification that can make this a good idea. "Cut them some slack"? No.


Now wait just one minute, jobbing a title to Jackie worked wonders for Disco Inferno and for the title itself... oh.

Seriously, I'm as big a "wait and see" advocate as the next guy, but COME ON. If this was say, Lita back when she was really super over, MAYBE this wouldnt seem completely and utterly insane. But its JACQUELINE.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.80
Man, while RAW has 5 or so matches signed for a free tv show this Monday, SmackDown has a big PPV show in less than two weeks, and only has 3 matches signed.

Jacqueline wins the Cruiserweight Title? My god, the days of Madusa vs. Oklahoma are returning!

Eddie hit RVD with the chair. Unless Rob turns heel now (don't see that happening), then that makes no sense.

So, I guess Judgment Day looks like:

Eddie Guerrero v. Bradshaw (ugh)

Undertaker v. Booker (if it's a straight match, it could be okay, but I fear it'll be nothing more than a squash)

John Cena v. Rene Dupre (I like both, but they're too green to have a long PPV match with each other)

Not sure of any other matches, but I'm thinking they'll do RVD & Rey v. Dudleyz which could be good, Chavo v. Jackie which could be really not good, and, um... Are there any other feuds going on right now? Maybe throw Rico & Haas vs. someone (Bashams), but what else? They're gonna' have a hell of a time slapping this card together next week.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.63
    Originally posted by Parts Unknown
    Hmmm...a gloved hand rising from the grave.

    Bear in mind it was FRESH grave. So was it someone Undertaker recently buried? I have no idea.

    NO WAIT

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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.86
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    CHAVO. JOBBED. TO. JACQUELINE. There is no justification that can make this a good idea. "Cut them some slack"? No.


Agreed. And as far as I'm aware, its not April 1st. So this isn't a joke. Therefore, THE SMACKDOWN BOOKERS ARE ON CRACK. Jacqueline?? When the hell did she join the Smackdown roster? When the hell did anyone care that she was even breathing? Why is she still employed? Who the hell did Chavo piss off to deserve this? What the hell did the CRUISERWEIGHT TITLE do to deserve this? What did Paul London, Akio, Noble etc do to not deserve this opportunity over no-talent, haggardly, inflatable Jacqueline?? I know its considered too "smark" to display any empathy for the "midgets", but come on this IS the cruiserweight title is it really too much to ask for some common sense??

You can't give something like that "a chance". Watching isn't going to make it suck any less. A talented guy jobs his title to a plastic bitch...while a no-talent (Bradshaw) gets a world title shot. I'm not asking for cruisers to main-event but I am saying that there are some situations that are not too out of line to bitch about.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.67
Wow, after seeing all the crap that's been on Smackdown the last few weeks i'm actually glad i have school on Thursday nights and miss Smackdown, and it's a boring as hell class. But hey, atleast there's no glowing hands. (Well actually since it's a 3D animation class there might very well be some kind of glowing hands, but anyway...)

It's amazing how quickly a show can change. For a long time I liked Smackdown better hands down, but ever since the Benoit move to Raw it seems Raw has just gotten better and better while Smackdown has just gone down the drain.

Maybe they are making Smackdown really bad on purpose to make Raw look that much better.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.83
Okay, folks, let's put on our mystery-solving hats and work this out.

Why is Jacqueline the new CW champ/still employed when she's outclassed in every possible way by pretty much everyone on both rosters?

Is she still coasting on residual goodwill from being willing to show off her grotequely overinflated tits in England years ago, or from being involved in the first Tough Enough?

Is she screwing someone high enough on the food chain to keep her job?

She's not considered a "diva" so that's out, she's not a wrestler any more thanks to those ridiculous funbags (the non-wrestling women are better than she is), she has zero charisma, no mic skills, nothing. There has to be SOMETHING keeping her employed in a company that just got done dumping dead weight.





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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.78
OK, I agree. I would give Jackie the CW title if she were french f'ing me with those gazongas, you bet.

No, really, I would.
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.19
Hey, remember when they made a big deal out of Rey Mysterio winning the belt in the Main Event of Smackdown one time? Got his family in the ring for a big celebration and everything? I bet those kids feel pretty stupid now.




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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
Previous WCW/WWE Cruiserweight Champions [From TheCubsFan.com]:
-Shinjiro Ohtani
-Dean Malenko
-Rey Mysterio (Jr.)
-Ultimo Dragon
-Sean (Syxx/X-Pac) Waltman
-Chris Jericho
-Alex Wright
-Eddie Guerrero
-Juventud Guerrera
-Billy Kidman
-Psychosis
-Lenny Lane
-Disco Inferno
-Evan Karagias
-Madusa
-Ed (Oklahoma) Ferrera
-Prince Iaukea
-Chris Candido
-Devon (Crowbar) Storm
-Daffney
-Chavo Guerrero (Jr.)
-Lance Storm
-Elix Skipper
-Mike Sanders
-Shane (The Hurricane) Helms
-Yoshihiro Tajiri
-Jamie Noble
-Matt Hardy
-Jacqueline

We have two women, a booker, Lenny Lane, and then a bunch of the best Cruiserweights in North America at the time...and under WCW or WWE contracts. Wow. Talk about a slap in the face.



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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44

    Originally posted by gobbi_di_merda
    Hey, remember when they made a big deal out of Rey Mysterio winning the belt in the Main Event of Smackdown one time? Got his family in the ring for a big celebration and everything? I bet those kids feel pretty stupid now.



I bet they'll get beaten up every day at achool.

OR, maybe coming from a wrestling family they're a little more clued in than the average wrestling fan seems to be.

As to why Jacqueline gets the title.....MAYBE ITS PART OF AN UPCOMING ANGLE! Holy Toledo, who'da thought it! Perhaps, now stay with me, they have some sort of plan that the internet hasn't gotten ahold of yet!

No, that wouldn't happen, since all the internet fans automatically know what's happening next, right?




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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.38
    Originally posted by Freeway420
    We have two women, a booker, Lenny Lane, and then a bunch of the best Cruiserweights in North America at the time...and under WCW or WWE contracts. Wow. Talk about a slap in the face.


Actually, according to the list, counting Jacqueline thats now three. Madusa, Daffney, and Jacqueline.

    Originally posted by Freeway420
    He says he's in New York not because he's afraid of Guerrero but because he's there on business. He's on a show on CNBC, the "most respected financial channel in the world", or something to that effect.


Wait, I thought he was a FOX News guy?



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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
    As to why Jacqueline gets the title.....MAYBE ITS PART OF AN UPCOMING ANGLE! Holy Toledo, who'da thought it! Perhaps, now stay with me, they have some sort of plan that the internet hasn't gotten ahold of yet!

    No, that wouldn't happen, since all the internet fans automatically know what's happening next, right?


It's Chavo doing a job to Jacqueline. Any angle that involves that situation is a bad idea. Hell, *any* angle that involves Jacqueline is a bad idea. There is no way to spin this into a good idea. There's absolutely no reason they couldn't have used another cruiser to accomplish the same goal.

PWInsider was reporting that the idea to use Jackie was Steph's, and that Jackie has been pushing to wrestle guys. So, yeah, I don't like where this angle is going.



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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.25

    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by Parts Unknown
      Hmmm...a gloved hand rising from the grave.

      Bear in mind it was FRESH grave. So was it someone Undertaker recently buried? I have no idea.

      NO WAIT

      KATIE VICK OMG


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And did you guys HAVE to bring up the mighty Disco Inferno jobbing to Jackie? *sob*

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