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TONIGHT! We continue WWE's latest international tour in England, which is always what you want to do after just wrapping up your latest internation tour in Mexico! The build for Survivor Series continues, including the continued build for Mark Henry/Big Show! SmackDown is NOW!

The Champ is NOT Here, as we start with a Veteran's Day video package.

Opening credits - Do You Know Your Enemy? Opening pyro! We are taped from Liverpool! We get the graphic for a traditional 5-on-5 Survivor Series match signed earlier this week: Team Orton (Randy Orton, Sheamus, Kofi Kingston, Mason Ryan, Sin Cara) faces Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Christian, Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger, Hunico). Yeah...they're not even going to TRY to explain Evan Bourne's 30-day vacation, are they?

So to start our buildup proper, let's bring out RANDY ORTON. Tony Chimel is NOT here tonight (maybe he's got visa problems, too...yuk yuk yuk), so EDEN STILES is your ring announcer. And alas, your hosts are still the three prats. We look at the blowoff street fight with Cody Rhodes from last week and the post-match shenanigans. Orton's got the mic and it's promo time!

Randy: When Teddy Long told me that I was to captain my own Survivor Series team, I told him that, uh, I don't exactly play well with others. Every team or group that I've been a part of here throughout my career in the WWE has imploded. Usually, with me doing something horrible...to what once were my friends. Now I'm not exactly a leader, but I sure as hell am no follower. So in the end, I have no problem being team captain at Survivor Series. I have no problem giving Cody Rhodes the beating of his life...again. And I have no problem shutting Christian's mouth, once and for all. Now I don't know Jack Swagger all too well and I don't know Hugh-nico whatsoever, but I have no problem doing with them what I must, simply because they got in my way. Now...I ESPECIALLY have no problem...

Interruption comes from WADE BARRETT, who's coming in to some blatantly piped-in boos. That tends to happen when you have the big British heel making his triumphant return to England. Barrett enters the ring and grabs his own mic.

Wade: You have no problem with what exactly, Orton? Let me assume you were about to say you have no problem with Wade Barrett? Well, rest assured, you'd have that completely wrong. You've got a huge problem with me. Now I know I've given you big problems in the past, but they are going to pale in comparison to the problems I give you at Survivor Series. Now we've both been in groups in the past. And I've never started as the leader of anyone. I've never started as the leader of any of those groups, Randy. But because of the man I am, because I'm a natural born leader...people have always gravitated towards me. You, on the other hand, you're just a natural born predator, the kind of man nobody is ever really going to trust. Now the Barrett Barrage that has been sweeping through SmackDown over the last few weeks is going to continue at Survivor Series, because I've achieved a lot in my short time here in the WWE, but the one thing I've yet to achieve is becoming the World Heavyweight Champion. And for that to happen, Randy, I need you out of the picture. I need to show the whole world that I am your in-ring superior! And that is exactly why MY team is going to be victorious at Survivor Series. Are you even listening to me?

Randy: Actually no, Wade, I'm not listening to you. I'm trying to imagine how high your head would BOUNCE off this mat when I hit you with an RKO.

Next interruption comes from CHRISTIAN, who's sporting the Bobby Heenan neckbrace to sell last week's chokeslam. He strolls to the ring with his own mic.

Christian: Randy, let's be honest, I mean, who are you fooling around here? You're going to be to your team what Yoko Ono was to The Beatles, my friend. Now you might be asking why I'm wearing this neck brace, well, it's real simple, you see, last week before my match with Sheamus, I was brutally chokeslammed by The Big Show for no reason whatsoever. But by the grace of God, I'm actually able to be here with you all tonight. Now it's not like Teddy Long was going to do anything about it, I mean, he's never done anything for me before anyways, but I wanted to come out here and say thank you to this man, to Wade Barrett, because he came down to this ring and volunteered his services, not only did he volunteer his services, but he went on to beat Sheamus in the middle of this ring. Now why did that happen? It's real simple. I inspire other human beings to be better. Now Teddy Long offered me the position as captain of this Survivor Series team, but I politely declined because of my obvious health concerns. I didn't want them to be a distraction, Randy, you see, that's what leaders do! I'm a leader! And so is this man! He proved that to me last week. So Wade, you have my full endorsement as captain the of this team and I gave that to Teddy Long, as well. Now you see, with Wade as captain, we're all equals and at Survivor Series, we're all going to be on the same page, Randy, and actually...I feel us getting in sync right now, so in sync...that maybe it's time to send a little message to not just you, but your entire team!

Orton doesn't hesitate in whacking Christian and Barrett starts the heel beatdown. It's a 2-on-1 until Sheamus' music hits! SHEAMUS cleans house with Irish Hammers and the faces clear the ring. Teddy Long's music hits and TEDDY LONG comes out to make a Christian/Sheamus match. He also books Orton/Barrett for tonight's main event. Hit Long's music. Sheamus/Christian is next!

Ad break - Raw gets Rocky'd promo!

"THE CELTIC WARRIOR" SHEAMUS v. CHRISTIAN
We start off with a criss-cross sequence where Sheamus takes Christian down with a shoulderblock. Christian slaps Sheamus, so Sheamus goes to town on him. That leads to the ten-count chest strikes. Christian slides underneath Sheamus and slaps him again, so Sheamus backdrops him and pounds away in the corner. Military press drop sends Christian rolling to the outside. Sheamus chases but an apron suplex is blocked. Christian charges is in and eats a shoulder thrust and slingshot shoulderblock. The fight moves to the announce table, before Sheamus gets shoved into the steel post. Second-rope dropkick gets 1 for Christian. Sheamus tries to comeback, but gets lowbridged. Christian tries for a pescado and it's CAUGHT! Sheamus hits a fallaway slam onto the barricade to send us to our next ad break.

We come back with Christian hitting the chinlock. Christian chokes on the ropes and hits the floatover uppercut. Sheamus tries to dump Christian, but Christian lands on the apron and hangs Sheamus on the top rope. Cole says that Christian's been on an incredible roll and that this has been the year of Christian. What show has this dope been watching? Christian comes off the top and gets caught, but he still gets a slap in. Corner whip is reversed with authority! Sheamus makes the babyface comeback with Irish Hammers. Short-arm clothesline and slam get 2. Christian goes for a springboard sunset flip and Sheamus powers out of it. Christian tries to springboard off the second turnbuckle, which NEVER works out for him! Sure enough, Sheamus catches him and hits the Irish Curse. Sheamus goes for the High Cross, but Christian slips out and stuns Sheamus with an uppercut. Top-rope crossbody is caught and turned into a fallaway slam! Corner clothesline and running knee hit. Christian kicks Sheamus in the knee and knocks him down with a dropkick. Christian goes up top and gets caught. Christian fights Sheamus off and catches him with a back elbow and high kick. Tornado DDT gets 2! Christian walks to a fallen Sheamus in the corner and Sheamus boots him away. Sheamus skins the cat (!) to the top rope and hits the Irish Missile for 2! Sheamus calls for the Brogue Kick, but it misses and Christian tries to turn it into the Kill Switch. Sheamus nearly turns that into a back suplex, but Christian lands on his feet and tries for the spear! It misses and Sheamus finishes with the High Cross at about 15 minutes shown.

WINNER: Sheamus - Ok, so Sheamus is 3-0 against Christian, with all of those wins coming clean. I think that's a sign to end this feud already.

Post-match, Christian walks around to the announce table and puts his neck brace back on. HA!

Later tonight, Randy Orton faces Wade Barrett.

Ad break - Bret/Shawn DVD promo

We take a look at what happened during last week's main event. We see Mark Henry wipe out Daniel Bryan and destroy Big Show after.

That takes us backstage to Daniel Bryan with AJ and Kaitlyn, who ask about the briefcase. Daniel Bryan says he was out of it and found himself about to cash in. The womenfolk say that he could have won it, which prompts Mark Henry to enter the picture. Bryan tells Henry that if he's still champion at Wrestlemania, he'll beat him. Henry says Bryan's got guts...and they're about to get spilled tonight.

Your hosts are the three crumpets. They shoot it off to an Ezekiel Jackson video package. Oh yeah, NOW they suddenly care about Jackson again.

Teddy Long is backstage with Charles Robinson until Aksana's cheesy saxaphone music hits and...nope! FFWD!

Later tonight, Randy Orton faces Wade Barrett.

Ad break

TED DIBIASE v. JINDER MAHAL
Jinder Mahal gets no entrance, because he's cannon fodder, of course. Wait, WHAAAAAA?

WINNER: Ted DiBiase - Wait, why the hell is TED FREAKIN' DIBIASE a juggernaut all of a sudden? NO, JOSH MATTHEWS! The DiBiase Posse is NOT celebrating on Twitter! Do you know how incredibly stupid you sound when you say these things?

We take a look at Big Show and Mark Henry facing off in WWE '12, out in stores on November 22.

Up next, Daniel Bryan faces Mark Henry in a rematch from last week.

Ad break - WWE Magazine promo

"THE WORLD'S STRONGEST MAN" MARK HENRY v. DANIEL BRYAN: NON-TITLE MATCH
Bryan has new music, a metal rendition of his Flight of the Valkyries theme. At the very least, it works better than his last theme.

Bryan tries for a kick and gets tripped up. He tries to stick and move, but Henry catches him and dumps him. Henry tosses him into the barricade and rubs his face into the steel steps. Back in the ring, Henry toys with Bryan some more. Henry military presses Bryan onto the turnbuckles. Henry's corner charge misses and Bryan hits the top-rope seated dropkick. It knocks Henry to a knee, so Bryan works him over with Tajiri kicks. The kick to the head sends Henry down and Bryan sees his opening, so he tries for the LeBell Lock! He can't get it locked and Henry powers out of it and drops Bryan on his back! Henry pounds Bryan into paste in the corner with headbutts. Big fat splash hits and Henry pulls Bryan up at 2. Bryan dares Henry to bring it, so Henry brings it with the World's Strongest Slam to end this at 3 and a half minutes.

WINNER: Mark Henry - A good squash for Henry and Bryan didn't look terrible, either. This could have been a great place to put over Bryan's heart and determination and start building a star, but that would (of course) require a competent announce team, so Cole just buries him some more. Yup.

Post-match, Henry grabs the steel chair. He's looking for the Pillmanizer. Bryan fights back, though, and whacks Henry with the chair! Henry no-sells it, though, with a BEAUTIFUL reaction and wipes him out with a slam and big fat elbow! World's Strongest Slam takes the fight out of Bryan again. Cole continues to bury Bryan, because perish the thought that they should put over Bryan as having guts or anything. Henry looks for the Pillmanizer, but Big Show's music hits. THE BIG SHOW lumbers to the ring, so Henry picks up the chair and keeps him at bay. Henry whacks Bryan with the chair and charges at Show. Show punches the chair out of Henry's hand! Henry thinks better of this confrontation and exits, but forgets the title. Show tosses the belt at him and Henry takes his leave. Show grabs the mic.

"Hey, Mark! Mark! Hey! You think that's impressive? Beating up on somebody half your size? That impressive to you? Why don't you sit down and watch my match and I'll show you something REALLY impressive!"

Hit Big Show's music! I guess Big Show's in action next.

Ad break - Bad John Cena Movie promo

THE BIG SHOW v. SUDDENLY, JOBBERS! THREE OF THEM!
Mark Henry stands on the ramp and watches, which is the most interesting part of this match. Basically cut and paste the last three or four times Big Show's done this routine and you know what you get.

WINNER: The Big Show - SQUASH!

Mark Henry grabs the mic. "Am I supposed to be impressed? Them guys not me! I'm the World Heavyweight Champion! You see, I know I impress you! I impressed you last week when I gave you the World's Strongest Slam in the middle of that ring! I impressed you when I sent yo' big rear end on vacation for four months! And I impressed you and these nothing people when I won this World Heavyweight Championship! And it's gonna happen again at Survivor Series! And I promise you, what I'm gonna give is gonna be a LASTING impression!"

Hit Mark Henry's music and let's shoot it off to the Wrestlemania ticket sale video package.

Later tonight, Randy Orton faces Wade Barrett

Ad break - Survivor Series promo

TAMINA (w/ROSA MENDES) v. ALICIA FOX (w/AKSANA)
Natalya's on commentary and that's the only notable thing about this match. We take a look at what happened last Monday when Kelly Kelly unveiled her Maxim cover. Remember when the big Diva benchmark was making it in Playboy? The TV-PG Era, ladies and gentlemen!

Tamina gets no entrance, because she's cannon fodder, of course.

WINNER: Alicia Fox - Remember when Tamina meant something? Before the writers got bored with her?

We look at Sheamus at the MTV European Music awards. Good gravy, the American awards are already intolerable as it is. How bad must the European show be? Sheamus presents the Best Male award to Justin Bieber. Wow...these jokes kinda just write themselves, don't they?

That takes us to the demoted Matt Striker backstage with Sheamus. We get a look at Sheamus brawling with Christian and Wade Barrett backstage last week. CLANGY PIPES! CLANGY PIPES! CLANG! Sheamus denies being a hothead and talks about being at the MTV European Music Awards and hanging out with his cousin Beaker. Sheamus stares down Striker for fun before laughing and walking away.

Hunico comes down to his gangsta music. He's accompanied by Epico and HOLY SHIT, it's Primo! Primo's on TV again! And it looks like they've found something for him to do! Mexican America Whatever these guys are calling themselves are in action next!

Ad break

We take a look at what happened last week, where Hunico and Epico gave Sin Cara a crappy beatdown. The Horsemen would be ashamed. Hell, Hernandez and Anarquia would be ashamed!

HUNICO & EPICO (w/PRIMO) v. THE USOS
Seriously? NOW they give The Usos their pyro? Now that they don't matter anymore? Unbelievable.

Jey Uso pounds away in the corner and tags out. Jimmy covers for 2. Jimmy telegraphs a backdrop. Epico blind tags out and Hunico's able to take control. Epico is tagged in and Jimmy is whipped into a dropkick. Hunico is tagged in and he comes in with a floatover seated corner dropkick for 2. We hit a brief chinlock. Jimmy backdrops Unico and tags out and Jey makes the tepid comeback. Jey hits a corkscrew forearm and hits the Umaga buttsplash for 2. We have a brief Pier 4, as Primo gets on the apron, allowing Epico takes Jimmy out. Jey wipes out Epico with a superkick and Hunico hits the Samoan Drop. Top-rope somersault senton finish for the cholos in a two-minute special.

WINNERS: Hunico and Epico - Borderline squash.

Post-match, the cholos triple-team Jimmy Uso, for fun. Booker says the cholos looked at Jimmy like he was in the wrong part of town. Subtle! Epico and Primo hit Jey with a KICK ASS frontcracker/backcracker combo! Hunico gives him the top-rope somersault senton again. Hit the cholos' music! Matthews calls this a mugging. SUBTLE! I can't tell they're supposed to be cholos at all! If it feels like I'm a little overly sensitive about this gimmick, it's because I'm of Mexican descent myself and I hate, hate, HATE the Mexican cholo stereotype and how it drags down my culture! I wonder if African-Americans felt this way about Cryme Tyme?

Randy Orton is walking backstage. The main event is next!

Ad break - Raw is Rocky promo. It's a three-hour Raw! I'm still not watching!

RANDY ORTON v. WADE BARRETT
The absence of Wade Barrett's kickass overcoat saddens me greatly.

We start with a lock-up that is broken up in the corner. Cole cites Barrett's time as leader of the Nexus and Corre as an example of his great leadership. Considering how inept those two groups turned out to be in the end, maybe those are bad examples. Barrett grabs a side headlock and wrestles Orton down. Orton comes back with a dropkick for 2. Orton's corner whip is reversed, but Orton comes off the corner with a clothesline. Orton stomps on Barrett's arm and measures him with a kneedrop for 2. Orton whips Barrett into the corner, but the corner charge eats boot. Barrett hits a second-rope elbow for 2. Orton regroups on the outside. Barrett gives chase, but Orton catches him coming in and slams his head on the barricade. Orton whips Barrett into the steel steps, but Barrett clears them with a single leap and kicks the steps into Orton! Nice sequence! Barrett whips Orton into the steel steps to send us to our final ad break of the night.

We come back with Barrett nailing Orton with a knee and pumphandle slam for 2. Barrett chokes away on the ropes and hits the running boot to the face. We go to the outside, where Barrett drives Orton's back into the apron. Back in the ring, we hit the chinlock. Orton breaks it, but runs into the Boss Man Slam for 2. Barrett goes to the second rope, but gets caught. Second-rope superplex gets 2! Both men exchange blows. Orton starts making the babyface comeback. Snap powerslam and Hanging DDT hit! VIPER COIL! Orton wants the RKO, but Barrett shoves Orton off, narrowly missing a ref bump! Orton turns around and eats a thumb to the eye and the schoolboy finishes for Barrett at 13 minutes. LAAAAAAAME!

WINNER: Wade Barrett - Well, that finish came out of nowhere. Come on, at least give us a William Regal Memorial Power of the Punch spot, if we're going with that type of garbage finish! The least Barrett could have done was grab the tights!

Show ends with Orton and Barrett staring each other down.

FINAL THOUGHT

I guess I shouldn't bury the lead. Wade Barrett ACTUALLY WON IN HIS HOMETOWN! Well, he's 35 miles away from it, but STILL! You almost NEVER see that nowadays! Good for him!

As for the show, it was pretty good. The opener was solid, Henry/Bryan told a good story for however brief it was, and Orton/Barrett was on its way to being a good match before the silly finish kicked in. Let's hope these good shows can continue back in the States.

Until next time!

(edited by It's False on 12.11.11 0052)



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Good SmackDown, like usual. I like this Henry/Bryan-"feud" a lot so far. I just hope it doesn't end with Bryan cashing-in unsuccessfully.
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    Originally posted by It's False
    I can't tell they're supposed to be cholos at all! If it feels like I'm a little overly sensitive about this gimmick, it's because I'm of Mexican descent myself and I hate, hate, HATE the Mexican cholo stereotype and how it drags down my culture! I wonder if African-Americans felt this way about Cryme Tyme?


Probably not. Cryme Tyme looked and acted like every rapper I've ever seen on ever Rap music video I've ever seen.

Did it also bother you so much back when Eddie & Chavo ran around in the low riders and talked about lying, cheating, and stealing? Was it okay back then because Eddie was the good guy?



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    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Did it also bother you so much back when Eddie & Chavo ran around in the low riders and talked about lying, cheating, and stealing? Was it okay back then because Eddie was the good guy?


That's a different kind of Mexican stereotype. It wasn't ideal, but the idea was more centered around Eddie and Chavo being comedy figures. The current gimmick is more focused on "Ooh, watch out for these MEXICAN GUYS, who will probably stab you in a dark alley!"

Like I said, I'm admittedly being overly sensitive about this, so interpret the gimmick as you will.

(edited by It's False on 12.11.11 1302)



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.44
    Originally posted by It's False
      Originally posted by Cerebus
      Did it also bother you so much back when Eddie & Chavo ran around in the low riders and talked about lying, cheating, and stealing? Was it okay back then because Eddie was the good guy?


    That's a different kind of Mexican stereotype. It wasn't ideal, but the idea was more centered around Eddie and Chavo being comedy figures. The current gimmick is more focused on "Ooh, watch out for these MEXICAN GUYS, who will probably stab you in a dark alley!"

    Like I said, I'm admittedly being overly sensitive about this, so interpret the gimmick as you will.

    (edited by It's False on 12.11.11 1302)
Hey at least they aren't riding around on lawn mowers like the Mexicools did............ at least not yet.
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    Originally posted by It's False
    The current gimmick is more focused on "Ooh, watch out for these MEXICAN GUYS, who will probably stab you in a dark alley!"

    Like I said, I'm admittedly being overly sensitive about this, so interpret the gimmick as you will.



I don't think you're being overly sensitive about it. I'm not Latino, though I have a lot of Mexican neighbors here in San Jose and I like going to Dia de los Muertos events and so on. I was grimacing at the TV the moment Hunico came out with that shirt buttoned at the top, because I could tell EXACTLY where they were going with that, and I wasn't wrong.

It's the modern WWE, ferchrissakes. These days either you're a bland indistinguishable short-haired white dude, or a cartoon version of your ethnicity is your entire gimmick.

Edit: I loved Eddie Guerrero to distraction, though I often rolled my eyes at the Lie, Cheat & Steal thing. He was just Eddie, y'know? That was enough.

(edited by Madame Manga on 12.11.11 2119)
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Funny to trot out the mexican stereotype when

Hispanic demo is a key part of fanbase

You just got back from tpur of mexico

On the other hand, if one of them syabs john cena in the side and takes him off tv, it is worth it.



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    Originally posted by odessasteps
    Funny to trot out the mexican stereotype when

    Hispanic demo is a key part of fanbase

    You just got back from tpur of mexico

    On the other hand, if one of them syabs john cena in the side and takes him off tv, it is worth it.
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    Originally posted by It's False

    That's a different kind of Mexican stereotype. It wasn't ideal, but the idea was more centered around Eddie and Chavo being comedy figures. The current gimmick is more focused on "Ooh, watch out for these MEXICAN GUYS, who will probably stab you in a dark alley!"

    Like I said, I'm admittedly being overly sensitive about this, so interpret the gimmick as you will.

    (edited by It's False on 12.11.11 1302)


As a fellow Latino, I understand completely what you're saying. It's just that the way the WWE has always been with minorities, it just doesn't surprise me anymore. I'm just too used to it from them; hell, I stopped getting outraged when WCW was doing the 'pinata on a pole' match and no one called them out on it.

If anything, while I don't really like the 'cholo' quips, the thing that really bothers me with the WWE as a Latino is how the main eventers are acting towards a Latino main eventer like Alberto Del Rio. Both Cena and Punk have mocked his language, his heritage, and call him fake as if to send the message that no Latino can be that successful in real life. It smacks to me as though they're saying as the white establishment "We're better than you" to us Latinos. And for a company that's trying to be big in the Latino market, I think it's a very messed up message they're sending to their potential customers.













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    Originally posted by supersalvadoran
      Originally posted by It's False

      That's a different kind of Mexican stereotype. It wasn't ideal, but the idea was more centered around Eddie and Chavo being comedy figures. The current gimmick is more focused on "Ooh, watch out for these MEXICAN GUYS, who will probably stab you in a dark alley!"

      Like I said, I'm admittedly being overly sensitive about this, so interpret the gimmick as you will.

      (edited by It's False on 12.11.11 1302)


    As a fellow Latino, I understand completely what you're saying. It's just that the way the WWE has always been with minorities, it just doesn't surprise me anymore. I'm just too used to it from them; hell, I stopped getting outraged when WCW was doing the 'pinata on a pole' match and no one called them out on it.

    If anything, while I don't really like the 'cholo' quips, the thing that really bothers me with the WWE as a Latino is how the main eventers are acting towards a Latino main eventer like Alberto Del Rio. Both Cena and Punk have mocked his language, his heritage, and call him fake as if to send the message that no Latino can be that successful in real life. It smacks to me as though they're saying as the white establishment "We're better than you" to us Latinos. And for a company that's trying to be big in the Latino market, I think it's a very messed up message they're sending to their potential customers.


I understand what both of you are saying, but just as the devils advocate here.. they ARE bad guys. Would you feel more or less insulted if they had thin moustaches and dressed like Speedy Gonzales? I know plenty of latin americans who dress like that, I dress like that and I'm not a criminal or a latino. Was Kofi a stereotype of a Jamaican even though he's from ghana? Yeah. John Cena was a stereotype. Steve Austin was a stereotype. They're characters based on people. You both referenced how this look itself is a part of the culture that you don't like, so obviously it's not necessarily a stereotype but a negative aspect of a very real subculture.
Go to any hispanic neighborhood and you see exactly what you saw last night. Dudes in dickies and wifebeaters with bandanas. I'm wearing that right now. Should you also feel offended by Alberto Del Rio acting like a villain from Zorro? Were you more or less offended by LAX or Mexican America? Los Boricuas? Sin Cara?
If anything, you should be hopeful that at some point, this "stereotype" will receive its comeuppance from Rey or Del Rio and be chastised for being "cholos".
I'm not trying to be hurtful, I understand where you're coming from, I hate when they stereotype white people too.
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You ask me, they ought to bring back the Latino World Order. (Along with La Parka, Psychosis and [who are you to doubt] El Dandy).



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    Originally posted by vitiated
    Should you also feel offended by Alberto Del Rio acting like a villain from Zorro? Were you more or less offended by LAX or Mexican America?


In all fairness, I, a white guy, am pretty offended by Mexican America.
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I'm going to Smackdown tapings this Tuesday and looking forward to it, but I'm really blown away by the imbalance of names or stars when you look at Raw and Smackdown.

Raw has Awesome Truth, Cena, Punk, Del Rio, Kofi, Ziggler, Swagger, all the major Divas, The Rock (rarely) Rey (when healthy)..even JR and Lawler are bigger names

Smackdown has Orton, Sheamus, Henry, Big Show and everybody else.

I'm trying to come with ideas for signs and I've got plenty for Sheamus-- and bags for Cody Rhodes-- but nobody else.

I'm just not sure what to say creatively about Ted Dibiase Ezekiael Jackson. I like Daniel Bryan, but still there's no gimmick to latch onto. He's just a guy--yet now with a briefcase at least.
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As someone who lives in a Puetro Rican neighborhood, I think its pretty dead on. But, you know I am white guy and I have to be sensitive to people who have obviously care more about their shit island they ran way from than the community they are in. Now having said that, I didn't have a problem with LAX putting flags over people or any of the shit they did, because it got a reaction crowd, a very loud reaction and that is what their jobs as heels is.

This weekend is the anniversary of Eddie's death. Eddie did more for the Hispanic community in the 21st Century than any other athlete including Rey in wrestling. He was more than a Hispanic with a funny accent, he was a man. He was smart, he was funny, he was a dangerous man when he was angry and most of all, we believed in him. Even after all of his problems, we cheered for him, because he wasn't another ethnic stereotype, he was a man even after all the Latino Heat they stuck on him when he first got there, he became a man. He transcended background and he became the embodiment of redemption. If anything WWE should take a way from Eddie is that they need to create characters that are not one dimensional and not go straight to their ethnicity.

As for Smackdown, not loving what they are doing with Daniel.

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
    Originally posted by lotjx
    As someone who lives in a Puetro Rican neighborhood, I think its pretty dead on. But, you know I am white guy and I have to be sensitive to people who have obviously care more about their shit island they ran way from than the community they are in.
Do you talk like this in your neighborhood, too?



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.09
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by lotjx
      As someone who lives in a Puetro Rican neighborhood, I think its pretty dead on. But, you know I am white guy and I have to be sensitive to people who have obviously care more about their shit island they ran way from than the community they are in.
    Do you talk like this in your neighborhood, too?


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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.24
    Originally posted by lotjx
    As someone who lives in a Puetro Rican neighborhood, I think its pretty dead on. But, you know I am white guy and I have to be sensitive to people who have obviously care more about their shit island they ran way from than the community they are in.


yeah anyway

I think this is the best year of Randy Orton's career. 2004 is comparable but this year he's taken on and taken to the responsibility of being the top guy on his show. He's working harder and having good matches with a lot of different guys. His match with Barrett was the least impressive of the three but he's had three weeks in a row with long quality TV matches. Orton/Dolph is always awesome and I thought Orton/Cody in the no DQ was one of the better matches of the year. Randy is working at a Christian pace without Christian now.

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