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Todd Grisham brings out No. 1 contender Jeff Hardy to chat with world champ CM Punk. Their match is set for The Bash after this week's RAW. Hardy doesn't appreciate how the ending went down and says it underscores their distinction. "You live your life you way, and I live my life my way." Punk concurs and repeats the phrase, and if you're hoping for a "I'm straight edge and better than you" angle, this could easily go there. Grisham ends the interview in a way that the audience can scream for their guy separately, and the crowd is giving it to Punk good. Hardy stays in the ring because his match is next.

IC Champ Chris Jericho vs. Jeff Hardy
Jericho works over Hardy's back, allowing both men to sell Hardy's ladder and triple threat matches. This theme of top-notch selling and continuity goes throughout the entire show in virtually all matches. Hardy does something I hadn't seen before in an abdominal stretch: He locks his hands and pulls himself upright with the higher arm. Smart. Jericho and Jeff go outside. Before Chris can get back inside, Rey Mysterio leaps from the railing, huracaranas him into the ringpost, and goes back to his front-row seat next to two identically attired fake Reys. LOS TRES REYS! Jericho can't make the ten-count, and Hardy wins. Jericho protests in the ring and eats a Twist and Swanton. This all becomes important later on.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Great Khali
Oh, for the love of ... Khali squashes Herr Ziggler. Dolph goes after the knee and gets Khali down to the ground, and they mess up a Rocker Dropper. Dolph tries to reveal a turnbuckle, but the translator and ref catch him. While the ref tidies it up, Dolph grabs a chair. Khali swats him away, and Dolph plays dead. The ref sees a downed Dolph and Khali holding a chair and DQs Khali. Shades of Eddy. I hope we don't get another match next week for Dolph to outwit the big guy before the PPV blow-off match.

Edge vs. John Morrison
Edge says he was denied of his rightful one-on-one rematch for the belt. He insults Morrison to allow the audience to respond only to get dead silence. Weird. Morrison interrupts to harangue Edge for whining, losing his innovative touch, and being Canadian. Edge makes a Sigfried-and-Roy joke about John's coat, and Morrison references Celine Dion, and I think these references are a tad dusty. It's a weak promo for Morrison.

Edge targets the ribs, and Morrison holds his arm to his side so often, he's practically wrestling one-handed. A slew of reverses ensue. John uses a short-arm Side Russian and a Rock Bottom across his knee (two new moves!). Edge busts out the Implant DDT. The end comes when Edge evades the Starship pain for a second time. Morrison lands in his feet, but Edge spears him dead for the pin.

Women's champ Melina vs. Alicia Foxx w/ Michelle McCool
A short match sees Alicia lock on a full-nelson/body scissors combo, release the legs, and STRETCH Melina in a seated full nelson. Quickly, Melina hits the bodylock sunset for the pin. McCool attacks outside and promises to take the title.

R-Truth/Cryme Tyme vs. Shelton Benjamin/Charlie Haas/Ricky Ortiz
Another short match. Haas doesn't seem hurt from that botched Starship Pain from last week. R-Truth uses the flying tornado elbow to pin Shelton.

Rey goes to the ring for a promo and brags about cheating Jericho out of a win. He mentions Jericho did the same thing to him a few weeks back by wearing a Rey mask and clocking Rey before a match. Jericho answers on the ramp, refuses Rey's demand for a rematch but agrees if Rey puts his mask on the line. Rey agrees. Maybe it's the new transmission format, but Jericho looks like an old-school heavyweight with that belt on.

Rey Mysterio vs. world champ CM Punk
Punk re-injures the leg weakened in the Monday match, and Rey locks onto it. It's odd to see someone kick Punk's left leg for a change. Jericho sits on commentary and beautifully puts over both guys as talented and determined, but says Rey's weakness is his reliance on the mask. Punk works on Rey's back, and Jericho says it only makes his job easier for The Bash. Only once does Jericho mention Rey's size, and even Punk is wrestling him as a normal-sized opponent.

Punk can't get the G2S on Rey, so he chucks him outside. Jericho sends him into the turnbuckle for revenge. When JR interrogates him about it, Jericho says that tactic proves Rey is a hypocrite to his fans. Punk sees the attack but stays inside and rests while the ref makes the count. Rey makes the ten-count, but Punk scoops him up for the G2S and the pin. Hardy runs in to complain, and we can't hear him fault Punk for taking an easy win. Punk, however, can accuse HIM of hypocrisy next week as Jeff won by using Rey's attack for an easy countout win. Punk leaves the ring with his belt held high, and Jeff is in the ring unhappy.

I LOVE THIS SHOW. Good wrestlers are working long matches,a and the writing refuses to rush the ambiguity of Punk/Hardy.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.72
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Todd Grisham brings out No. 1 contender Jeff Hardy to chat with world champ CM Punk. Their match is set for The Bash after this week's RAW. Hardy doesn't appreciate how the ending went down and says it underscores their distinction. "You live your life you way, and I live my life my way." Punk concurs and repeats the phrase, and if you're hoping for a "I'm straight edge and better than you" angle, this could easily go there. Grisham ends the interview in a way that the audience can scream for their guy separately, and the crowd is giving it to Punk good. Hardy stays in the ring because his match is next.


It was actually Josh Mathews, not Grisham.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.61
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker

    I LOVE THIS SHOW. Good wrestlers are working long matches,a and the writing refuses to rush the ambiguity of Punk/Hardy.


I love this show too. For the first time since his debut, I now find CM Punk interesting. Morrison looked good against Edge and his loss here seemed like a down payment on future main events between them.

I love this show so much, I'm completely dreading the Donald Trump commercial-free RAW. Both the Smackdown and ECW rosters were told to be in attendance. I fear some mucking with the roster will take place where Smackdown will be pillaged in favor of RAW. I hope not. Anything can happen, unfortunately.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.09
Loved the 'oh my god!' look on the face of the mother and child in the second row when they realized it was the real Rey Mysterio sitting in front of them.



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One of the Tres Reys looked like it might have been Charlie Haas. Continuity anyone?

I am completely loving SD over Raw right now...especially with the now heelish CM Punk.




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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.90
    Originally posted by geemoney
    It was actually Josh Mathews, not Grisham.


I can't keep them straight. I shall book a six-week Khali/Ziggler angle as penance.

Ziggler's character is amplified by this feud, in that he appears smarter. He wants to get victories over Khali instead of wanting to chop down the giant. It subtly supports the notion of competitors moving up the ladder. If Ziggler can keep this up, he can get title shots or at least opponents whose defeats will provide him title shots.

But it does nothing for the performer who can only do a handful of moves against Khali. He had energetic, if short, matches against R-Truth. At least they allowed him to reverse moves and hit his finisher, the leaping Side Russian. Against Khali, he can't even do an Irish whip.





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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.07
I loved the "oow no... Tim Horton's out of dooonuts eh!" line.

John Morrison is quickly growing into the main event guy that most people figured he would. Good slow paced match with Edge that shows he can build a story in a match.

Losing has no real effect, since he wasn't supposed to beat a guy who was a World Champ a few weeks ago.


Ziggler can do no wrong. He's growing on me more and more every day. He reminds me so much of Curt Hennig.

Overall great show. I just wish they wouldn't spend 15 minutes every week recapping RAW, since they are "separate" companies.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.13
Love this show, but can Shelton please stop losing so much.

I'm close to joining the Ziggler bandwagon, but I'd like to see him against someone he can work an actual match with. And a name change would help. Couldn't he just go by Dolph?
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.83
I don't think I've mentioned it yet on here, but Jericho is totally channeling J. Jonah Jameson in this angle. "Why does he wear a mask? What does he have to hide?"

Tres Reys was awesome.

If Jeff leaves after his contract expires, then I don't like the Punk heel turn...our top SD! faces are: Rey, the Occasional Taker, a Returning Kane? (he was heel last we saw I believe...), JoMo?



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.43
I have to laugh and applaud the Jericho as JJJ line. I would expect Morrison to join the top faces if Jeff left. I doubt he will leave since they are pushing him hard not Vince's style. Edge will probably be the one going to Raw since they need a top level heel besides Orton. Raw once again pillaging Smackdown.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.16
    Originally posted by MUTigermask
    Love this show, but can Shelton please stop losing so much.

    I'm close to joining the Ziggler bandwagon, but I'd like to see him against someone he can work an actual match with. And a name change would help. Couldn't he just go by Dolph?


I was thinking during the match that the name is really starting to handicap the guy. At first he made little noise and didn't seem to have much staying power. He was even suspended not long after his debut. But he's really starting to breakout - even if he got a new name or repackaging, wouldn't we still hear 'You're Dolph Ziggler!' chants?
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.17
I still don't understand why Rey Mysterio, a former World Heavyweight Champion, would put his mask on the line for a shot at the Intercontinental Title. I mean, I'm enjoying the angle, but that part is tough to believe.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.86
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    I still don't understand why Rey Mysterio, a former World Heavyweight Champion, would put his mask on the line for a shot at the Intercontinental Title. I mean, I'm enjoying the angle, but that part is tough to believe.


I've really been digging the way the Intercontinental Title has been projected in this feud. Both Jericho and Mysterio have done a good job with their promo work to really accentuate the title over any personal issues. We complain a lot about the lost prestige of the IC title, and it's very refreshing to see them have two upper-tier guys vying and pulling out all stops to get to the IC title. See, Mysterio said in his promo on Friday that he wants "the title that belongs to him back," the sort of language generally reserved only for the World Titles. It shows how important this title is to Mysterio, and him putting the mask on the line for it is a way to show that Mysterio will stake anything to get it back. I love it!



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.07
I miss the old days, when if a masked wrestler won a title, Bob Giegle would make him unmask for the commish before he was allowed to take the belt.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.17
    Originally posted by used2bcool
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      I still don't understand why Rey Mysterio, a former World Heavyweight Champion, would put his mask on the line for a shot at the Intercontinental Title. I mean, I'm enjoying the angle, but that part is tough to believe.


    I've really been digging the way the Intercontinental Title has been projected in this feud. Both Jericho and Mysterio have done a good job with their promo work to really accentuate the title over any personal issues. We complain a lot about the lost prestige of the IC title, and it's very refreshing to see them have two upper-tier guys vying and pulling out all stops to get to the IC title. See, Mysterio said in his promo on Friday that he wants "the title that belongs to him back," the sort of language generally reserved only for the World Titles. It shows how important this title is to Mysterio, and him putting the mask on the line for it is a way to show that Mysterio will stake anything to get it back. I love it!


Building up the title is not something you do overnight. You can't treat it like shit for years than all of a sudden say, "Now this title is so important that a wrestler who holds his mask to be very, very important and has held a much more important title that he won in the main event of Wrestlemania would be willing to give up his mask for a shot at the title." It doesn't make any sense.

Anyway, it's a minor point, as the feud still seems very compelling (I haven't seen every bit of it). But it doesn't make me think, "Man, the Intercontinental Title is really important!" It makes me thing, "Man, Rey Mysterio must not care very much about that mask."
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by djp
      Originally posted by MUTigermask
      Love this show, but can Shelton please stop losing so much.

      I'm close to joining the Ziggler bandwagon, but I'd like to see him against someone he can work an actual match with. And a name change would help. Couldn't he just go by Dolph?


    I was thinking during the match that the name is really starting to handicap the guy. At first he made little noise and didn't seem to have much staying power. He was even suspended not long after his debut. But he's really starting to breakout - even if he got a new name or repackaging, wouldn't we still hear 'You're Dolph Ziggler!' chants?


I kind of agree with you - Dolph Ziggler is a stupid name. But he really is starting to catch on with the fans (myself included), and I think a name change runs the risk of shaking some of that momentum. I think at this point, he's kind of stuck with the name and they should just make the best of it. His current push makes it look like that's the plan, anyhow.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.13
    Originally posted by Tenken347
      Originally posted by djp
        Originally posted by MUTigermask
        Love this show, but can Shelton please stop losing so much.

        I'm close to joining the Ziggler bandwagon, but I'd like to see him against someone he can work an actual match with. And a name change would help. Couldn't he just go by Dolph?


      I was thinking during the match that the name is really starting to handicap the guy. At first he made little noise and didn't seem to have much staying power. He was even suspended not long after his debut. But he's really starting to breakout - even if he got a new name or repackaging, wouldn't we still hear 'You're Dolph Ziggler!' chants?


    I thought the character and behavior and such stems from the name. If he was Joe Johnson, walking around introducing yourself doesn't do much good (heh. Suddenly Just Joe comes to mind)
    But the fact that his name is Dolf Ziggler *extends hand* makes him unique. Makes people pay attention to him, and gives him all the more reason to stand out from others by being a cocky mofo who wants you to remember his name.

    Even the silly segment this past week where the 3 divas couldnt remember what it was helps him.
    "Isn't it John Johnson?" is less likely to make people chuckle (and create their mocking signs) than "Oh I know, you're Dick Ziggler!"

    I kind of agree with you - Dolph Ziggler is a stupid name. But he really is starting to catch on with the fans (myself included), and I think a name change runs the risk of shaking some of that momentum. I think at this point, he's kind of stuck with the name and they should just make the best of it. His current push makes it look like that's the plan, anyhow.




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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Tenken347
      Originally posted by djp
        Originally posted by MUTigermask
        Love this show, but can Shelton please stop losing so much.

        I'm close to joining the Ziggler bandwagon, but I'd like to see him against someone he can work an actual match with. And a name change would help. Couldn't he just go by Dolph?


      I was thinking during the match that the name is really starting to handicap the guy. At first he made little noise and didn't seem to have much staying power. He was even suspended not long after his debut. But he's really starting to breakout - even if he got a new name or repackaging, wouldn't we still hear 'You're Dolph Ziggler!' chants?


    I kind of agree with you - Dolph Ziggler is a stupid name. But he really is starting to catch on with the fans (myself included), and I think a name change runs the risk of shaking some of that momentum. I think at this point, he's kind of stuck with the name and they should just make the best of it. His current push makes it look like that's the plan, anyhow.


Considering he was Kerwin White's sidekick, and Nicky of the Spirit Squad, he's come a LONG way. I wouldn't say he's growing on me, but I'm getting less and less annoyed with him. I kinda miss his old music, though.



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