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The W - Pro Wrestling - SmackDown! 11-23-2007
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.82
After an exhausting Thanksgiving weekend, it's time to catch up on SmackDown!

-Show starts with Edge in Vickie Guerrero's office. Vickie gives Edge a title shot next week. Then they make out. What the fuck...?
-We start proper in the ring with JBL bringing out MVP. JBL gives MVP a U.S. Championship Ring and shows what happened to Matt Hardy last week. I'm sure this is the point where Matt would have come out for rebuttal, but after an emergency appendectomy, the role of Matt Hardy tonight will be played by Rey Mysterio. Mysterio is offended by MVP's actions, so MVP responds by attacking him. Mysterio fights back, but misses the 619. Match is set for later tonight.
-The Miz & John Morrison v. The Major Brothers. This is non-title. We get an old-school inset promo with the Majors as the match goes on, but that's all that's notable here. Miz gets the pin for his team with the Reality Check.
-Mr. McMahon talks to Finlay and tells him the Hornswoggle v. Mark Henry match has been changed to a Handicap Match with Finlay as Hornswoggle's partner.
-Kane v. Big Daddy V. I suddenly see why no one was in any particular hurry to put up this thread. This match is as bad as you'd expect and ends quickly on a cheap DQ to boot, as Matt Striker runs in with a chair. Of course, he doesn't hit with the chair, as Kane dispatches him easily and cracks V with the chair also.
-Rey Mysterio v. MVP. A good match between these two and I wouldn't mind seeing them go again. Finish comes when Rey hits a pair of 619's, but MVP counters the West Coast Pop with a powerbomb and gets the Ric Flair pin for the win.
-Batista demands answers from Vickie Guerrero regarding why Edge gets a title shot. Why? Because she loves him, of course. Have I mentioned that it's really uneasy to watch Eddie Guerrero's widow make a tramp out of herself on national television?
-Promo for the Shawn Michaels: Heartbreak and Triumph DVD.
-Jesse and Festus whore out the new John Cena DVD. Thanks for showing up, guys! Although watching Festus dress in Cena attire is a funny visual, at least.
-Jamie Noble finds Michelle McCool on a Big Beautiful Titan Bike. He asks about Chuck Palumbo and senses opportunity when he hears the words "just friends". Unfortunately, his whispered suggestion gets him slapped.
-Mark Henry v. Hornswoggle & Finlay. One big comedy match, with Finlay and Hornswoggle double-teaming Henry at various points in the match. Henry manages to take down Finlay and chases Hornswoggle, who comes out of the ring with the shillelagh. Henry chases the littlest McMahon into the ring, but runs into a Finlay shillelagh shot. Finlay then launches Hornswoggle off the top for the Tadpole Splash and the pin. Hmm...getting squashed one week and jobbing to a midget the next. Methinks Mark Henry might FINALLY be getting his release soon. Fun comedy stuff. Post-match, The Great Khali comes out and he and Henry lay out Finlay.
-Chuck Palumbo v. Jamie Noble. Palumbo takes control with power moves and Noble's comebacks are all too brief. Match ends, though, when Palumbo misses a charge and Noble rolls him up for the pin. Noble blows a kiss to Michelle afterwards. Aside from Matt and MVP, has anyone else been more entertaining on this show than Jamie Noble?
-Victoria v. Torrie Wilson. Same match these two have always had. Torrie wins by countering the Widow's Peak into a neckbreaker for the pin.
-It's the long-awaited return of "The Cutting Edge". Host Edge is out with Vickie Guerrero as they welcome in tonight's guest: Batista. Batista gets in Edge's face over his title shot and shoves him down before walking out. After Batista leaves, the lights go out. GONG! Undertaker magically appears in the ring and Edge heads for the hills, leaving Vickie behind. Undertaker looks up at Edge before he TOMBSTONES VICKIE GUERRERO! Crowd pops, because Undertaker is a BABYFACE THAT BEATS UP WOMEN! Hell, it's not like Vickie even provoked him, either. Show over.

It was a good show, with only the tag match and women's match really falling flat. Batista/Edge for next week should be good, but I'm anticipating a non-finish or run-in DQ.

This stuff with Vickie Guerrero is borderline uncomfortable to watch. It's just weird to watch a woman who lost her husband two years ago slobber all over Edge on national TV. Worse yet, what did she do to get a Tombstone? Why are we cheering the guy that just beat up a woman for no good reason? I'm sure it's going somewhere, but it's just...odd.

(edited by It's False on 25.11.07 1609)



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by It's False
    This stuff with Vickie Guerrero is borderline uncomfortable to watch. It's just weird to watch a woman who lost her husband two years ago slobber all over Edge on national TV.
A bit uncomfortable might be an understatement. It was just....I don't know. Particularly given Edge's history, both kayfabe and not, in selecting women...
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
Really, the only thing that made me uncomfortable was Vickie's terrible acting. Edge was totally convincing playing a gigolo, but Vickie's just plain not good enough for any story-driven segments. I was also not real pleased with the pointless tombstone to close the show. The Finlay/McMahon segment was just as painful as Monday's, although I really did like it when Finlay and Hornswoggle were coming out for their match and Hornswoggle stopped to thank Finlay. It was surprisingly low-key and genuine.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.36
I loved the entire Edge/Vickie/Undertaker storyline. Let's try to put it in perspective:

"THE UNDERTAKER IS A BABYFACE WHO BEATS UP WOMEN!" The Undertaker is the Undertaker. He is ostensibly a babyface because he's booked to wrestle heels for much of his career and his longevity and proven legendary status makes him popular no matter what. But The Undertaker character has never been a nice person and has never been a babyface. The Undertaker is admittedly evil. The Undertaker's character has murdered his parents, kidnapped and almost married Stephanie McMahon, threatened to have Kane throw her from the top of the arena, buried his manager Paul Bearer in cement and killed him, to name a few of the terrible things he's done. The Undertaker has always been a monster. Sometimes he's relatively easy going but there's a reason everyone on the roster is terrified of facing him.

So Taker Tombstoned Vickie Guerrero, who is a woman. From the Undertaker's perspective, he punished the General Manager of Smackdown who CONSPIRED with another wrestler to screw him out of his World Championship, causing him to lose Hell in a Cell, one of his signature matches. And the Tombstone was not pointless. It was a mark out moment and it was perfectly in character for Undertaker. He destroyed Edge's new girlfriend -- the GM who screwed him -- to punish her and to send a message to Edge, the guy he most wants to kill now, that he's next. (And a bonus, it gets Vickie off TV. I've never been a fan of her TV work. She just isn't very good as a performer.)

Edge's "history...with picking women." Good fucking gravy, the guy stole Matt Hardy's girlfriend 3 YEARS AGO. It's ancient history. Everyone involved has long since moved on. Edge's heel character has since become the Rated R Superstar -- he's supposed to be the smarmiest, most depraved heel on the roster. He's not above doing anything to get what he wants. This includes concocting a heinous revenge scheme to get his World Title back by seducing the General Manager of Smackdown and screwing the most dangerous opponent he has on the roster (who wanted to kill him anyway for the way Edge took the World Title from him earlier in the year.)

"It's just weird to watch a woman who lost her husband two years ago slobber all over Edge on national TV." I certainly won't argue it's uncomfortable to watch then make out and it's kind of gross. But A) the grossness was part of the point and B) come on, Eddie, rest his soul, died two years ago. Is Vickie supposed to be his grieving widow forever? (In storyline or real life?) How do we even know she doesn't have a new man in her (real) life? And I'll say it -- it was kind of gross to watch them slobber over each other not necessarily because of Eddie's ghost but because Vickie's not a looker. And she's a mom. So yeah, it's gross, but let's not drag Eddie's ghost into it. Vickie has been a heel on TV before (during the Chavo vs. Rey feud last year) so her character's behavior is not unprecedented.

Besides, it's ALL JUST AN ANGLE. And as far as I'm concerned, it's a pretty damn good one. With Matt Hardy on the DL and the MVP angle on hold, Undertaker vs. Edge (my two favorite guys in all of wrestling) is the hottest shit on Smackdown. Much hotter than Jericho's return on RAW.

(edited by John Orquiola on 25.11.07 1908)

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.67
I don't think they're the ones dragging Eddie Guerrero into it, since the whole point of their relationship is how awful and creepy it is that Edge would seduce beloved corpse Eddie Guerrero's widow. Hopefully the tombstone was to one-and-done the whole thing to payoff the angle and the 8 months of wedding buildup but not actually have to put that on TV more than once. Teddy can come back next week and be like "hey Edge, fuck you, playa!" and they can move forward without Vickie In Love to drag it down.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.36
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    I don't think they're the ones dragging Eddie Guerrero into it, since the whole point of their relationship is how awful and creepy it is that Edge would seduce beloved corpse Eddie Guerrero's widow.


"Beloved corpse Eddie Guerrero" is pretty good.

I contend the whole point of their relationship is Edge seduced the acting General Manager of Smackdown, who just happens to be Vickie Guerrero, to screw Undertaker and finagle his way into the World Title picture so he can get his belt back. Plus, had she not been Tombstoned, Edge's new lover would have been able to protect him as the GM.

It was supposed to be Kristal in Vickie's role anyway. Had she not asked for her release because she got cold feet about the "morally degrading" Edge storyline and refused to do it, it would have been her sleeping with Edge as acting GM of Smackdown.

Kristal's side of it is here: http://kristal-marshall.net/

But I'm totally in the camp of Vickie In Love would suck. One show of it ending in a Tombstone was fine with me. Week after week, I feel I'd have not enjoyed it so very much.





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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.62
I liked how Vickie was all overacting (on purpose or not) and was sooooo smitten.

ANd you know the emphasis will be on Edge being a jerk for not coming to the aid of the woman he's supposed to care about. Expect Cole to scream triumphantly when he figures out IT WAS ALL TO GET THAT TITLE SHOT! THE ULTIMATE OPPORTUNIST or something like that.
Blah how I hate Cole

I loved Taker's stare while he had her in the tombstone position.
I wonder where this leaves Batista though...





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