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#21 Posted on
The least underwhelming situation I can think of would be CM Punk with a legitimate submission victory in Taker's retirement match. They could play off the fact that Punk's made him 'tap out' before (officially), and everyone can enjoy the continuity whilst still being shocked and outraged.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.05
You need a perfect storm of the right person, storyline, crowd and ending to make it work. Cena has the creditablity, but at big 4 events he gets mixed reactions. I also think the nice fan cushion he has built himself since the start of Nexus would disappear after the 3 count. He will go back to 2006 where he was booed out every building. If they turn him heel due to it then it would be ok, but they can't have the mutual respect handshake, because he already did that with Shawn in a very uncomfortable way at the end of WM 23. I still think they will never turn Cena heel until they have another upcoming uber-face which they don't right now or do I see getting between now and next year.

Punk could do it if they had it at MSG or some east coast slight ROH place. I think those fans would want to see a homegrown talent win over the WWE's biggest guy. Yet, they have to do a good job of pushing Punk as a threat which means him getting the better of either Orton or Cena or both before Mania which I am not sure they are willing to do.

Alberto could do it, but I have my doubts about how long they are going to push him without facing Taker on Smackdown before to Mania. Miz just doesn't have the cred to do it plus the size factor. HHH without DX is not interesting. Plus, if he wins the IWC and most wrestling fans will see it as more of a political move then a rub. I also think the 20 minute promos of Hunter burying Taker will be boring as hell. Orton, Edge and Kane have already failed. The rest of the roster is just not ready and I doubt could be ready by next year. I think Punk and Alberto are the best bets, but I just don't see them taking the gamble on them unless Taker insists on it or Taker falls out of favor with the company prior to the match.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.84
It won't end because you can only sell the streak ending once, and the people already would have paid for it before it ended so there is no additional profit to be made. Unless they develop an Undertaker Jr. to keep the special effects going once Taker breaks down completely and they need to end his career, there is no economic need to do it. However, the 'streak' of Taker getting World Championship reigns when he physically can't keep up the schedule needs to already be ended.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.72
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
      Originally posted by KJames199
        Originally posted by StaggerLee
        At the VERY least, if they are going to bring the streak to an end, it has to be against a chicken shit heel, who somehow manages to end it via Taker DQing himself.
      Ruining a 20-year streak with the same old wrestling bullshit that everyone is tired of is the worst idea I've heard in a good long while.


    Agreed. If Undertaker's streak ended by DQ, people would pelt the ring with garbage.

    And not in a good, "I can't believe Hogan joined The Outsiders" way. In a "David Arquette won the World Title, I can't believe I paid for this shit!" kinda way.


I was thinking more along the lines of somebody (Miz, Alberto or Punk) being totally manhandled by UT, but still managing to hang on, then towards the end getting Taker to accidentally punch the ref, or some other type of Auto DQ. Taker would have the "He got the shaft on the biggest stage" heat, while the heat on the guy who beat him would be nuclear heat, but ONLY if they are going to make whomever beats him the ultimate heel for the next year or so.


OR, (sorry for the fantasy booking) have a finish where the DQ plays out, but then a dusty finish with VKM restarting the match. You'd get the heat on both guys, and a satisfactory ending with a UT win.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.56
No. There's simply no way to end the streak on DQ that isn't completely horrible on every level.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    Punk could do it if they had it at MSG or some east coast slight ROH place. I think those fans would want to see a homegrown talent win over the WWE's biggest guy.


Yes, I'm sure most of the 20,000+ people for wrestling's biggest show of the year would be ROH fans. Not knocking the quality of ROH, but do they even have 20,000 fans?

Punk could do it as a heel, although having Orton do it as a tweener could be good. He'd be the guy who unlike Kane & HBK was able to win the 2nd time. Plus there's been a lot of years and he's gotten much better to help.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
There's no point in ending the streak, because chances are it's going to be the wrong guy doing it. They'll either pick a buddy of Taker's like Albert, or the company man of the moment like Mr Kennedy.

That being said the streak can't go on forever against the top of the card. If he wants to keep this thing going past 20 he is going to have to start fighting the Kamalas and King Kong Bundys again.

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#27 Posted on
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    I was thinking more along the lines of somebody (Miz, Alberto or Punk) being totally manhandled by UT, but still managing to hang on, then towards the end getting Taker to accidentally punch the ref, or some other type of Auto DQ. Taker would have the "He got the shaft on the biggest stage" heat, while the heat on the guy who beat him would be nuclear heat, but ONLY if they are going to make whomever beats him the ultimate heel for the next year or so.



I think the only heat you could count on in that situation would be all the fans in attendance setting the building on fire.

People don't think wrestling is real anymore, and even though we all "give in" to letting ourselves get caught up with what we're watching, no one actually thinks that one man beat the other in a real wrestling match. That said, if ANYONE beats Taker their reaction will be about how the company planed this. Ending it in a DQ of any type would just piss all over the fans that watch the show. The guy who beat Taker also wouldn't have any heat, it would all be on the company for ending the streak.

That said, I think the Dusty Finish ending with the match restarting might have merit and could work as long as they do it right.

The only one that will work next year for the big 20-0 one is John Cena, and only because they KNOW that people watching will be shitting themselves in fear of the streak ending thinking "OMG THEY'RE GONA HAVE CENA WIN CUZ HE WINS EVERYTHING OMG PG13!!!!"
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.54
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    That being said the streak can't go on forever against the top of the card. If he wants to keep this thing going past 20 he is going to have to start fighting the Kamalas and King Kong Bundys again.


I actually thought this year might be a good time to push the Streak to the midcard since...
a) we need a breather between the two Michaels matches and the inevitable epic Cena match next year
b) there isn't any obvious major opponent lined up for WM27
c) Taker may be physically limited to what he can do in the ring this year

We could've had someone like Swagger claim that he's "8-0" at Wrestlemania since he beat eight guys in the MITB last year and now wants to take out Undertaker. Or, if you wanted to make it even more comic, have Santino also defend his "streak" (he's 1-0 at Wrestlemania, wrestling as Santina) and have he and Kozlov face UT in a handicap match.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.56
That Santino idea is especially awful considering they're the tag team champions- thus supposed to be able to beat two guys.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.33
If Undertaker really does retire Triple H this year, and if retiring at Wrestlemania by losing in the streak match becomes the new cool thing to do, then the UT matches will have become so big and the consequences so draconian that I could see it all coming to a head next year with something like Taker's career vs. Cena's career.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.84
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    If Undertaker really does retire Triple H this year, and if retiring at Wrestlemania by losing in the streak match becomes the new cool thing to do, then the UT matches will have become so big and the consequences so draconian that I could see it all coming to a head next year with something like Taker's career vs. Cena's career.






It would be tough for them to sell a Cena career match when they couldn't go a couple of weeks when he was 'fired' for not following Nexus orders.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.54
I have no interest in Taker/HHH simply because Trips has already been part of the Streak. I like the idea of the Streak being more or less fresh opponents every year. The only exceptions had circumstances behind them --- Kane is Undertaker's brother, and Michaels is arguably UT's greatest opponent. Hell, I'd have Taker face a tag team this year just to even up the numbers for the '19 men faced, 19 men defeated' symmetry.



"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." --- Bart Giamatti, on baseball
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