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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.33
Another year, another rumble, and unfortuneately for us, they announced the short rumble (90 seconds between entrants) on Smackdown last night, without really bringing attention to the announcement.

In a year with a Short Rumble, have we ever had a big memorable moment, historic moments, or anything at all from the rumble match itself?
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I have no problem with 90-second intervals. It's not too short, saves on lag-times, and they usually do worked times anyway. The only intervals I don't like are 60-seconds, because that's too short (although, looking back at the talent roster in the 1995 Rumble, it probably wasn't too bad of an idea that year).

As for less-than-2-minute-interval Rumbles:

1994 -- 90-seconds (Only Rumble to have multiple winners: Bret Hart & Lex Luger. First Rumble to use intervals less than 2-minutes)

1995 -- 60-seconds (Only Rumble to use 60-second intervals: Shawn Michaels & British Bulldog draw numbers 1 & 2, and are the last two remaining in the match. Michaels, #1 entrant, wins. Shortest Rumble match ever.)

1997 -- 90-seconds (Uh... well, Austin won the Rumble. That's... news.)

1998 -- 90-seconds (Austin wins again... seeds are planted for Austin/Tyson)

1999 -- 90-seconds (Austin & McMahon draw numbers 1 & 2, and are the last two remaining in the match. McMahon wins. Chyna is the first (and only) woman to be in the Rumble match.)

2000 -- 90-seconds (Uh.... Good. Not particularly historic.)

2003 -- 90-seconds (First Rumble of the brand-split era. Lesnar, at #29, is the latest entry to ever win the Rumble match. He last eliminated Undertaker, the #30 entrant. I guess the luck of the draw really DOES matter.)

2004 -- 90-seconds (Benoit draws #1 and wins the Rumble match.)

2005 -- 90-seconds (Ending of the match is screwed up, with Batista & Cena accidentally tumbling out of the ring together. Match is restarted to allow Batista to properly win. This also led to Vince McMahon blowing out his knees from violently... uh, entering the ring.)

2006 -- 90-seconds (Rey Mysterio sets the record for lasting the longest in the Rumble match (over 62 minutes))

(edited by OMEGA on 20.1.07 1712)


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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
The times are worked. I wouldn't worry about it too much. And besides, I'd expect the Rumble to go long overall. I don't see Lashley, Batista or Cena going 30 minutes in their matches or anything by any stretch.

'99 was a horrible Rumble by the by, including I recall, a few minutes of a completely empty ring. It's pretty much Russo's opposite of the booking awesome that was SurSer '98.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.98
Yeah, 1999 was a pretty Russo-riffic Rumble. However, it's all good, because there really hasn't been a bad Rumble since (not a fan of 2002, but even that one is okay).



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.04
1995 was the worst Rumble of all time. It was also the year of the worst 'Mania. And Summerslam. And King of the Ring. I can't recall Survivor Series '95, but I'm going to assume that was pretty awful too (although Survivor Series has only ever been good once, and that was in 1998).

The best Rumble was probably 2001. I remember quite enjoying that. Don't know about the intervals but probably 90 seconds there too. Or, worked, heh.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
    Originally posted by OMEGA

    2006 -- 90-seconds (Rey Mysterio sets the record for lasting the longest in the Rumble match (over 62 minutes))

    (edited by OMEGA on 20.1.07 1712)


This has bugged me for the better part of a year. I distinctly remember reading that Ric Flair went 63 minutes and change in the 92' Rumble when it was for the title.

The 2000 rumble was pretty good but probably felt better then it was because the PPV had HHH/Cactus jack in a street fight and Hardyz/Dudleys in the best table match ever.

and Rikishi and Too Cool dancing mid-rumble :)



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.21

Speaking Rumble matches, the Hardys vs. MNM has been added to the PPV ... that, combined with the Rumble match itself will probably make me watch it.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.33
I just hope they do some kind of tag team drawing 1 and 2 like that time with Demolition. I love when they make teams fight each other. I also love when 1 guy throws out like 10+ guys.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.98
    Originally posted by miknight
      Originally posted by OMEGA

      2006 -- 90-seconds (Rey Mysterio sets the record for lasting the longest in the Rumble match (over 62 minutes))

      (edited by OMEGA on 20.1.07 1712)


    This has bugged me for the better part of a year. I distinctly remember reading that Ric Flair went 63 minutes and change in the 92' Rumble when it was for the title.


According to prowrestlinghistory.com, Rey Mysterio lasted the longest with a time of 62:12. He is followed by Chris Benoit in 2004 lasting 61:30, Bob Backlund in 1993 lasting 61:10, Triple H in 2006 lasting 61:09, and Ric Flair is all the way down at number five for his 1992 appearance, lasting a legitimate 59:26. I recall Gorilla Monsoon talking about Flair lasting for over one hour, but if so, then that was a worked time.

    Originally posted by Kane Is Ugly
    I also love when 1 guy throws out like 10+ guys.


I was thinking about this the other day, and I thought this would be a great way to get Marquis Corvon (Monty Brown) over, instantly, as a big deal.



(edited by OMEGA on 20.1.07 2300)


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    1995 was the worst Rumble of all time. It was also the year of the worst 'Mania. And Summerslam.


Dude, the '95 Summerslam had the second Razor/Shawn ladder match, Hakushi/1-2-3 Kid and the climax of the awesome Skip/Barry Horowitz feud. I mean, sure it had Mabel in the main event, but the year before the main event was The Undertaker against some guy dressed up like The Undertaker. I dunno, I might just be biased because I was there.
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I have but one request to the WWE: please, no celebrity entrants! I don't want to see Pete Rose, Drew Carey or anyone else in the Royal Rumble. I want to see actual WWE and ECW wrestlers compete.

Though...I'd probably mark out if Federline appeared.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.43
The 90-second intervals should be taken with a grain of salt. They usually send people out whenever they want, based on what's happening in the ring. Last year, I recall that several times it wasn't even close. It's sad when even the entrance times are a work, heh.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      1995 was the worst Rumble of all time. It was also the year of the worst 'Mania. And Summerslam.


    Dude, the '95 Summerslam had the second Razor/Shawn ladder match, Hakushi/1-2-3 Kid and the climax of the awesome Skip/Barry Horowitz feud. I mean, sure it had Mabel in the main event, but the year before the main event was The Undertaker against some guy dressed up like The Undertaker. I dunno, I might just be biased because I was there.


Yeah, but '94 also had Bret versus Owen in a sweet NWA-style cage match, a really fun Razor/Diesel match and a oretty great women's title match, IIRC. I'm not sure which I'd say was the worst...wasn't '93 a bit of a stinker?



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.31
93 was really only about a couple of things:

Bret Hart getting his revenge with Jerry Lawler, who came out faking injury, causing Bret to wrestle Doink first.

There was a pretty good IC title match with Mr. Perfect and HBK.

Other than that, not much more.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.71
    Originally posted by Rush4Life
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    There was a pretty good IC title match with Mr. Perfect and HBK.




Did you see the same match I saw? That was the "out of shape" Shawn Michaels era! The match was really shitty! Two of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time totally SUCKED that night! What a disappointment that was!



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
Perfect's back was FUCKED for that match. I don't think it's fair to attack the two guys for having a nothing match when one of them was working with a really serious injury.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.33
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Perfect's back was FUCKED for that match. I don't think it's fair to attack the two guys for having a nothing match when one of them was working with a really serious injury.


From my understanding, Perfect's back was about as good as it had been in a long time. (It was when he took on Hart that he could barely walk.)



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75
I love how this turned from being about the Rumble to being about Summerslam in the span of 15 or so posts.

You all are disrespecting the Rumble. And I love 90 second intervals. They...rule and stuff.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.92
Don't they usually use 90 second intervals?

I pretty clearly remember it being 90 seconds for 03, 04, and 05. I'd say 03 and 04 were among the better ones. 03 went about 54 minutes-ish, 04 went about 62 minutes. I don't think a rumble match needs to go 75 minutes like in 02 or 06.

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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.98
    Originally posted by Tyler Durden
      Originally posted by Rush4Life
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      There was a pretty good IC title match with Mr. Perfect and HBK.




    Did you see the same match I saw? That was the "out of shape" Shawn Michaels era! The match was really shitty! Two of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time totally SUCKED that night! What a disappointment that was!


I wouldn't got that far. It was definitley a disappointment (especially since it was hyped as being the greatest match in WWF history), but I wouldn't say it outright sucked. It was an okay-good match that, considering who was in it, was expected to be much better than it was.

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