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Just my personal curiousity. There have been several references about Shawn refusing to do certain storylines and turning heel because of his religion. People have also made reference to him refusing to put over other wrestlers. I'm just wondering where people are reading this? I personally have seen nothing that indicates Shawn has said no to putting over people these days. Just because he beat Chris Jericho at WM 19, why does that mean he personally refused to lose?
By the way, I'm not saying you guys are wrong. I've just heard none of this. Where is everyone getting this from?
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
When in doubt, assume someone read it in either the Torch or the Observer or (often more likely) someone else read in the Torch or Observer and posted it on their site.

Dave Meltzer (observer) has reported about a logical Hogan/HBK match to follow their tag match, but the 'HBK doesn't want to turn heel because it conflicts with his beliefs.'

Wade Keller (torch) has noted HBK's losses have been minimialized; he wasn't mention as a Legend Killed in the hype up to Orton/Undertaker, for instance.


    People have also made reference to him refusing to put over other wrestlers.


The deal here is people believe he'll lose, but will always end up getting the win back later on except for his good friend HHH. Someone more intersted can go case by case.

The WM19 Jericho/HBK match sometimes incorrectly gets thrown out as part of the trend, but all sources say Jericho wanted HBK to win the match regardless.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    The deal here is people believe he'll lose, but will always end up getting the win back later on except for his good friend HHH.


Next victim - Kurt Angle.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
    Originally posted by Jackson
      Originally posted by thecubsfan
      The deal here is people believe he'll lose, but will always end up getting the win back later on except for his good friend HHH.


    Next victim - Kurt Angle.
Which would run contrary to the idea of his turning heel and facing Hogan, unless they want to run it as a heel/heel affair or have Kurt turn face again. I donít see either of those situations as being very likely.

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I got no problem with HBK wanting his win back, I think he makes a good feud to have more than one match with each winning. Espeically when he's wrestling someone like Jericho or Angle who won't be hurt by losing a match.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    I got no problem with HBK wanting his win back, I think he makes a good feud to have more than one match with each winning. Espeically when he's wrestling someone like Jericho or Angle who won't be hurt by losing a match.

As if HBK would be hurt by not winning a match. That's my problem. He's still not a full-time wrestler. He'll be 40 in July. He's in the twilight of his career (or at least he should be). Why does he need to keeping going over younger talent that could really be helped by getting a win over him?



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.04
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by Quezzy
      I got no problem with HBK wanting his win back, I think he makes a good feud to have more than one match with each winning. Espeically when he's wrestling someone like Jericho or Angle who won't be hurt by losing a match.

    As if HBK would be hurt by not winning a match. That's my problem. He's still not a full-time wrestler. He'll be 40 in July. He's in the twilight of his career (or at least he should be). Why does he need to keeping going over younger talent that could really be helped by getting a win over him?


What do you mean he is not a full-time wrestler?
He wrestles about every week on Raw or at least is there. I'd say he wrestles more than the average champion does.
I know he wrestles some house shows too..maybe not all but most of the guys don't I think?



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.94
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by Quezzy
      I got no problem with HBK wanting his win back, I think he makes a good feud to have more than one match with each winning. Espeically when he's wrestling someone like Jericho or Angle who won't be hurt by losing a match.

    As if HBK would be hurt by not winning a match. That's my problem. He's still not a full-time wrestler. He'll be 40 in July. He's in the twilight of his career (or at least he should be). Why does he need to keeping going over younger talent that could really be helped by getting a win over him?


True true, Hassan for example could be helped with a win over HBK, and I really doubt that is happening in the tag match at the ppv, but the same thing that HBK does is done by most main eventers for the past several years and actually a lot of main eventers won't even put over the other person in the first match. Sure I'd like to see a guy like Benoit who will do what's right for the business in the main event, but I'd rather have HBK who is willing to job and get his win back than someone who won't job at all.



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