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Supposedly, WrestleMania XIX was going to be Shawn's last match...now he's a regular...don't get me wrong, I enjoy seeing Shawn as a regular, but it worries me, when will he leave? It is a pleasure knowing one of my faves from the 90's is wrestling again after a 4 year long absense, but when does his contract expire? and when it does expire, will he want to renew? better enjoy it while i can...



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I don't remember XIX ever supposedly being Shawn's last match. The story I always heard was that he felt good after SummerSlam last year so he decided he'd give it a go as long as he was feeling good. No idea about his contract, though I imagine it runs pretty long....after all, Vince did keep him under contract all those years he was injured.
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Did he sign HBK to a lifetime deal like he wanted to with Bret Hart?



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When exactly did HBK's current contract begin? Has he been signed since the 90's? Did he re-sign?



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He signed a 5 year deal, I believe 2 1/2 years ago right before all the Invasion stuff started, when he was first thinking about making a comeback (which was then halted when he showed up in "no condition to work"). J.R. covered it pretty closely in the Ross report until Shawn's comeback was halted, and then he dropped it.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.94
    Originally posted by Staplegun
    Supposedly, WrestleMania XIX was going to be Shawn's last match...now he's a regular...don't get me wrong, I enjoy seeing Shawn as a regular, but it worries me, when will he leave? It is a pleasure knowing one of my faves from the 90's is wrestling again after a 4 year long absense, but when does his contract expire? and when it does expire, will he want to renew? better enjoy it while i can...


I never heard that rumor so I tend to think good ol HBK will still be wrestling post WM XIX. Even though I have not been a big HBK fan in a while. It seems since he found "the number one stunner, the king of bling bling, the man behind making David Flair and Stacy Keibler a couple (at one point)" G to the O to the D, he has lost some appeal to me. but thats just me. (not because he found GOD but because he just doesn't seem to be himself.)

(edited by XPacArmy on 11.11.03 0819)


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    Originally posted by XPacArmy
    It seems since he found "the number one stunner, the king of bling bling, the man behind making David Flair and Stacy Keibler a couple (at one point)" G to the O to the D, he has lost some appeal to me. but thats just me. (not because he found GOD but because he just doesn't seem to be himself.)


I can't stand Michaels' "religious" awakening. It's one thing to find God and wear a necklace of same with no real rhyme or reason given on TV. But when you're doing a Jesus pose as opposed to your standard bicep pump and you have shirts that rip off the Jesus fish (that are only designed to make as much money as possible), something's fishy.

At least the Reverend D-Von didn't come out and tell people outside of wrestling that he had found God. It was just a gimmick. This is Michaels selling his "God" to earn more of his only true God: the almighty dollar.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.65
    Originally posted by gugs
      Originally posted by XPacArmy
      It seems since he found "the number one stunner, the king of bling bling, the man behind making David Flair and Stacy Keibler a couple (at one point)" G to the O to the D, he has lost some appeal to me. but thats just me. (not because he found GOD but because he just doesn't seem to be himself.)


    I can't stand Michaels' "religious" awakening. It's one thing to find God and wear a necklace of same with no real rhyme or reason given on TV. But when you're doing a Jesus pose as opposed to your standard bicep pump and you have shirts that rip off the Jesus fish (that are only designed to make as much money as possible), something's fishy.

    At least the Reverend D-Von didn't come out and tell people outside of wrestling that he had found God. It was just a gimmick. This is Michaels selling his "God" to earn more of his only true God: the almighty dollar.


Hmm..did something wrong (only realised a long time later) so I have to edit..

If Shawn truely found God or not is for him to decide. I couldn't care.

However, his character onscreen is rather well..boring..
Simply because he is now no longer cocky annoying Mofo HBK.
He is grizzled veteran Shawn Michaels.
The performances in the ring are still alright, but the rest is nothing that can get my heart going..

(edited by dMp on 11.11.03 1641)


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#9 Posted on
    Originally posted by gugs

    I can't stand Michaels' "religious" awakening. It's one thing to find God and wear a necklace of same with no real rhyme or reason given on TV. But when you're doing a Jesus pose as opposed to your standard bicep pump and you have shirts that rip off the Jesus fish (that are only designed to make as much money as possible), something's fishy.

Yeah, there's something very unsettling about those shirts. Might have something to do with most of the profits from them going into the pocket of a man who cut a promo saying "let's not fool ourselves, I am going to Hell" a week or so ago.



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I'm going to go against the grain here and say that HBK deserves a lot of credit for his comeback.

He's put together compelling programs with Jericho, Orton, HHH and Flair and the mighty Heartbreak Kid has even managed to lay down a few times. The interviews I've read (and the one I saw on Off The Record) show me he's much humbler than he used to be 5 years ago.

He's not as young as he used to be -- sure -- but he's still going out there and giving us our money's worth. I hjave yet to see him in a truly awful match. Even that Mark Henry bout last week was alright.

Am I crazy about the religious stuff? Not really. But he's not shoving it down our throats (think the short-lived born-again Dustin Runnels angle from 98) and this time around, I truly do believe he's making his opponents look good. He could have stayed retired (I can't think it's about the money for him) made the ocassional 'special appearance' and been done with the business. But instead, he's done a decent job out there and is GIVING to the business instead of TAKING AWAY from it by making each appearance more watered down than the next (see also Nash, Kevin).

Anyways... just my two cents.

(edited by CANADIAN BULLDOG on 11.11.03 1209)


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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Not shoving it down out throats? What about the "Jesus fish" t-shirt w/ his initials?

Or this:


Or this:


He still should have put over Jericho at WM, instead of doing the meaningless job on Raw a month or so later.

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 11.11.03 1416)

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 11.11.03 1419)

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
I believe Shawn's on the level now and it's more Triple H making sure his best buddy looks good then Shawn pulling any strings. I doubt he cares that much anymore. But given what Shawn Michaels did when he was on top, he deserves everyone questioning his every move.
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I'm actually digging Michaels current gimmick. As a bible believing Christian myself, I can honestly say that its good to see someone like Michaels promote his new found spirituality without shoving it down our throats or being insulting about it (see Dustin Runnels circa 1998)

And just for the record, I hope Michaels never turns heel again. He along, with several other workers such as Sting, Steamboat, and maybe a few others are prime examples of why some performers just can't work as heels. Michaels (like Sting) never seemed to be into the heel role, and often came off as forced. Lets just hope he ends his final run in the WWE as a babyface
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"Michaels (like Sting) never seemed to be into the heel role, and often came off as forced. Lets just hope he ends his final run in the WWE as a babyface"

Aw, man, Shawn was a GREAT heel. For the last six months of his "career", ie. late '97/early '98, he was the ULTIMATE annoyed little shit.



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    Originally posted by CANADIAN BULLDOG
    Even that Mary Henry bout last week was alright.


Mary henry? They brought in his mom?



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    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Not shoving it down out throats? What about the "Jesus fish" t-shirt w/ his initials?

    He still should have put over Jericho at WM, instead of doing the meaningless job on Raw a month or so later.


I don't really consider that `shoving it down our throats'. I don't, personally anyways, have a problem with someone being open about their religious choices, or any other choices for that matter. I just mean he isn't constantly quoting verses from the bible in his promos, etc.

But I do agree with his match at 'Mania. Jericho going over would have been the right decision.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.20
Who cares what shirt he wears to the ring? And how is that shoving it down our throats?

I honestly don't see it being any more "forced" than an athlete crossing himself or pointing to the sky after a big play. Would you rather hear him thank God in every promo like he's Kurt Warner?

Just because it's different doesn't mean it's bad. In all honesty, I appreciate the extra layer that it gives his character.

I admit the wardrobe could use a little updating, though...



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    Originally posted by Scorpio
      Originally posted by CANADIAN BULLDOG
      Even that Mary Henry bout last week was alright.


    Mary henry? They brought in his mom?


Yeah -- she's feuding with Buff's mother.
I meant Mark....



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Simba
    Who cares what shirt he wears to the ring? And how is that shoving it down our throats?

It's a very obvious religious reference, as are the 2 other pieces of merchandise I brought up. Seems to me like he's putting his religion out there in an obvious manner.

And if he's not pushing his religion, he's at least using it to make himself $$$.

And I don't like when other athletes do it either (i.e. point to the sky, thank God in interviews, etc.)

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 11.11.03 1615)


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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.79
Shawn is so good at being aggravating. Him as the cagey veteran is working, but RAW could so use a heel who annoys people just for the sake of doing so. I'm not asking for DX - a more mature "ultimate annoying little shit" would work.

I've written before about what wrestlers can teach us about the capacity of the human body to heal. Shawn's back may be so toughened that he is in no more danger than any other wrestler.

As for the religion: I don't know what is in Shawn Micheal's heart, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt. He's worth it.



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