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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.85
Shawn Chacon, recently demoted to the bullpen, got rather pissed yesterday at Houston GM Ed Wade (chron.com) and has been suspended indefinitely. Something tells me that the tangible trade value of Chacon may now be....considerably less.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.97
    Originally posted by jfkfc
    Shawn Chacon, recently demoted to the bullpen, got rather pissed yesterday at Houston GM Ed Wade (chron.com) and has been suspended indefinitely. Something tells me that the tangible trade value of Chacon may now be....considerably less.





A former Yankee pitcher with temper issues? Just send him back to the Yankees like Sidney Ponson and then have Michael Kay talk about how misunderstood he is and that being around Derek Jeter will turn his career and life around.
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Yes, because being formerly employed by somebody is the reason they have issues. Not Colorado or Pittsburg who employed him, right? Fucking redsox fans are becoming such a collection of douches lately.

(edited by StaggerLee on 26.6.08 1549)
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.60
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by jfkfc
      Shawn Chacon, recently demoted to the bullpen, got rather pissed yesterday at Houston GM Ed Wade (chron.com) and has been suspended indefinitely. Something tells me that the tangible trade value of Chacon may now be....considerably less.





    A former Yankee pitcher with temper issues? Just send him back to the Yankees like Sidney Ponson and then have Michael Kay talk about how misunderstood he is and that being around Derek Jeter will turn his career and life around.



Just like Manny Ramirez is misunderstood, right? The rest of us just don't understand Manny being Manny. ;-)



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.14
Hell knows the Sox have had their share of temper tantrums as well:

Oil Can Boyd
Julian Tavarez
Their front office has "legendary" tempers, too.
Another on Lucchino here. The last link is really interesting, making this point:

    Originally posted by article
    Fans of the Boston Red Sox, who frequently accuse the Yankees of "buying championships," have no comment on the payrolls of their two recent championship teams; $127,298,500 in 2004 and $143,026,214 in 2007, both the highest payrolls of any World Series Champion in the history of baseball.


Hell, even this year's version has their babies, too.
Apparently, even Boston fans agree their own players throw temper tantrums.

But I digress.... Really, Shawn Chacon can pretty much kiss his major league career goodbye.


(edited by Reverend J Shaft on 26.6.08 1058)
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Phillies fans are applauding Chacon today.

Ed Wade = horrible GM.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.23
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    Phillies fans are applauding Chacon today.

    Ed Wade = horrible GM.


Yeah, just like they're still cheering wife beater and overall jackass Brett Myers. I don't care how bad a GM Wade is, there's no excuse for what Chacon did. Wade tried to keep the matter private by asking him to the office and Chacon just had to be a big enough dick to make him tell the news out in front of everyone. Now he's worried if he'll have a job in the majors anytime soon. I say with his own admission and the amount of people who saw him assault Wade, he should be worried about having charges pressed against him.
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To the shock of no one, Chacon looks to be gone from Houston.




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    A former Yankee pitcher with temper issues? Just send him back to the Yankees like Sidney Ponson and then have Michael Kay talk about how misunderstood he is and that being around Derek Jeter will turn his career and life around.
Funny you should say that...

Click (nytimes.com)
    Originally posted by NY Times
    Derek Jeter said he would vouch for Shawn Chacon’s character if the Yankees considered bringing back Chacon after his release by the Houston Astros on Thursday. The move came a day after Chacon admitted to The Houston Chronicle that he had grabbed General Manager Ed Wade by the neck and thrown him to the ground in an argument.

    “Chac’s a friend of mine,” Jeter said. “I see Chac in the off-season. I wouldn’t have a problem with him. I think people need to find out all the details. Yeah, it doesn’t look good, doesn’t sound good, but I don’t know what happened. I can’t picture it happening, knowing him like I know him.”
I like the sound of this move as much as I like the thought of Ponson back. Can we summon the rotting corpse of Steve Howe also?
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Jeter usually knows what's right for his team and he has my respect for how he captains it. But I can't agree with him on this. Forgot the character issues, he's really medicore as a pitcher. Besides, the Yanks may have some problems with starting pitching, but I'm sure it's a lot worse for most other teams right now. They can survive with Petitte, Mussina, and Joba. What they can't survive with is having Farnsworth giving up a home run every other game in relief.
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I think this is Jeter looking out for his friend more than Jeter trying to get this guy on the Yankees.




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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.48
    Originally posted by supersalvadoran
      Originally posted by odessasteps

      Phillies fans are applauding Chacon today.

      Ed Wade = horrible GM.


    Yeah, just like they're still cheering wife beater and overall jackass Brett Myers.


Still cheering? You must be watching different Phillies games than I've been, because the ones I've seen involved him getting booed out of the park as he continues to stink up the joint.
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The MLBPA has filed a grievance, alleging that the Astros terminated Shawn Chacon without just cause.


    NEW YORK -- The players' association filed a grievance Tuesday over the release of pitcher Shawn Chacon, saying the team's decision to terminate his contract was without just cause.

    Chacon cleared waivers and was released Monday, five days after a physical altercation with general manager Ed Wade in the clubhouse.

    Chacon had a $2 million salary this year, and the decision to terminate the contract meant $983,607 won't be paid. He also lost the chance to make up to $1 million in performance bonuses based on innings.

    "The grievance alleges that he was unlawfully terminated and asked that he be made whole," said Michael Weiner, the union's general counsel.


Umm...he SHOVED THE GENERAL MANAGER and started wailing on him! I don't know what world these guys are living in, but if I throw my boss to the ground, I know I'M not getting paid.




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    asked that he be made whole


There's a hole in his heart where the Astros used to be. So sad.

I think the MLBPA is fighting this not with the idea they might win (though a settlement would be cause for a party), but to make sure the conditions for voiding someone's contract are so narrow to be virtually non-existent. If they can get a judge to say "voiding a contract is okay ONLY if there's some physical violence", it saves the players from worrying about losing a deal if they just vocally disagree with a person in management. If Chacon is going to see a precedent, they want to make it as insignificant as possible.

(edited by thecubsfan on 1.7.08 1511)


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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.23
    Originally posted by It's False
    The MLBPA has filed a grievance, alleging that the Astros terminated Shawn Chacon without just cause.


      NEW YORK -- The players' association filed a grievance Tuesday over the release of pitcher Shawn Chacon, saying the team's decision to terminate his contract was without just cause.

      Chacon cleared waivers and was released Monday, five days after a physical altercation with general manager Ed Wade in the clubhouse.

      Chacon had a $2 million salary this year, and the decision to terminate the contract meant $983,607 won't be paid. He also lost the chance to make up to $1 million in performance bonuses based on innings.

      "The grievance alleges that he was unlawfully terminated and asked that he be made whole," said Michael Weiner, the union's general counsel.


    Umm...he SHOVED THE GENERAL MANAGER and started wailing on him! I don't know what world these guys are living in, but if I throw my boss to the ground, I know I'M not getting paid.


Agreed, but the MLBPA always does this. It doesn't matter what caused the player to be released, the players association will always try to appeal and get the players money back if they think they have even a tiny chance of winning. That's why they went after the Rockies a couple of years ago for releasing Danny Neagle, even though he got caught red-handed for solicitating a hooker.
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